[Wamvan] Ubc chant

Wed Sep 11 10:13:12 PDT 2013

https://www.facebook.com/events/506764559416327/?ref=22

Please attend if you can and spread the word :)

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Jarrah <jarrahhodge at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great points, Angela.
>
> Taking another look, there was a large team of "principal investigators"
> and some came from the countries investigated, but clearly not all. There
> was a lack of transparency about how researchers/investigators were chosen,
> a lack of reflection on the significance of the fact that the team
> contained an awful lot of white people, and no explanation about why the
> report appears to only be available in English (though I hope I'm wrong -
> it could just be on a different page?) and why the credited report
> authors/spokespeople are not from the study areas. Take the report with
> those issues and try to condense it into a media release and translate it
> through western media and the voices of people in the study countries is
> further erased.
>
> I think the report is worth a read but with the understanding that it has
> big limitations and that it might say at least as much about the authors'
> perspective as it does about what's really going on in the study countries.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Angela Marie MacDougall <
> director at bwss.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Whatever value we seek to draw from
>>
>> new study on violence against women in Southeast Asian countries<http://asia-pacific.undp.org/content/rbap/en/home/presscenter/pressreleases/2013/09/10/un-survey-reveals-why-some-men-use-violence/>,
>> by UN Joint Programme Partners for Prevention is neutralized due to the
>> colonial white supremacist lens that inevitably this research will be
>> viewed through. The racialization of violence against women and men who
>> perpetrate violence against women is as resistant to change as is racism in
>> and of itself.
>>
>> The particular othering the men who participated in this research serves
>> to reinforce the stratification and these oppressive frames.
>>
>> We simply cannot discuss the issue of male violence against women without
>> putting it in the context of white supremacy, colonialism and imperialism.
>> This research appears lacks this very important context. So we end up with
>> the same old conclusions  being drawn.
>>
>> And since it appears that the researchers are not from the communities,
>> lands, territories, countries being analyzed we are unable to assess the
>> particular historic legal social realities for the men who participated in
>> the research to understand how masculinity was shaped and formed sexism,
>> misogyny the use of violence sexism within the relationship women.
>>
>> At the moment it appears that the only research that is being conducted
>> about male violence against women that reaches the mainstream is with men
>> of colour.
>>
>> A
>>
>>
>> On 2013-09-11, at 9:16 AM, "Jarrah" <jarrahhodge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for that info, Sue. I was initially asked to go on On the Coast
>> yesterday to talk about that Lancet study by the UN but I got bumped so
>> wrote this article instead:
>> http://www.gender-focus.com/2013/09/10/global-lessons-un-study-violence-against-women-asia/
>>
>> On the rape chant issue, that's the topic of today's Twitter #sheparty.
>> Anyone's welcome to drop in between 12-1 Pacific on the #sheparty hashtag
>> to share thoughts.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Joanna Chiu <chiu.joanna5 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sue,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing the Lancet article! What do you mean by participation
>>> of WAMmers in the panel? I imagine some members of our listserv may attend
>>> as audience members who may engage in dialogue with panelists, and Anisa
>>> who's kept us informed on this thread works at the UBC Sexual Assault
>>> Centre.
>>>
>>> Joanna
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Susan Hughson <sue at suehughson.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Here is a new article from the Lancet that is timely, and I believe
>>> the UN report on status of women was released yesterday.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS2214-109X(13)70074-3/abstract
>>> >
>>> > A panel with the Sexual Assault Centre, Student Union, reps from UBC,
>>> AMS, and Sauder admin with an invitation to broader community groups would
>>> be timely. Are WAMmers already in progress with this idea? If yes, would
>>> you be interested in participation from BC Humanist Association? Many of
>>> our members have strong articulate opinions on the Sauder frosh incident
>>> and its connection to global sexism/misogyny.
>>> >
>>> > Sue
>>> >
>>> > On 2013-09-10, at 10:58 PM, "Cynthia K." <cyn.khoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Completely agreed, and with what others above have said, as well. The
>>> worst would be everyone seeing this as akin to an "isolated incident"
>>> (albeit longstanding one) as opposed to just one instance of a much (even)
>>> more widespread and fundamental problem (ie. rape culture at large).
>>> >>
>>> >> On 2013-09-11, at 1:44 PM, Lyn Cockburn <lyncockburn at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I'm concerned that some media outlets and UBC itself is giving the
>>> impression - directly or indirectly - that the only problem here is the
>>> chant itself and not the rape culture it represents.After all, goes that
>>> logic, we are in a 'post feminist' era just as we've been in a 'post
>>> racist' era since the day Barack Obama was elected US president and so
>>> surely we don't have to waste any more time talking about how sexist or
>>> racist our society is. Therefore, if we get rid of these chants, the
>>> problem is solved.
>>> >>> Perhaps, we could have a discussion about how to open people's eyes
>>> as to what the chant represents and how to speak up both against the chant
>>> itself and the mindset it promotes.
>>> >>> Lyn
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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