[Wamvan] Ubc chant

Wed Sep 11 10:01:47 PDT 2013

Great points, Angela.

Taking another look, there was a large team of "principal investigators"
and some came from the countries investigated, but clearly not all. There
was a lack of transparency about how researchers/investigators were chosen,
a lack of reflection on the significance of the fact that the team
contained an awful lot of white people, and no explanation about why the
report appears to only be available in English (though I hope I'm wrong -
it could just be on a different page?) and why the credited report
authors/spokespeople are not from the study areas. Take the report with
those issues and try to condense it into a media release and translate it
through western media and the voices of people in the study countries is
further erased.

I think the report is worth a read but with the understanding that it has
big limitations and that it might say at least as much about the authors'
perspective as it does about what's really going on in the study countries.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Angela Marie MacDougall
<director at bwss.org>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Whatever value we seek to draw from
>
> new study on violence against women in Southeast Asian countries<http://asia-pacific.undp.org/content/rbap/en/home/presscenter/pressreleases/2013/09/10/un-survey-reveals-why-some-men-use-violence/>,
> by UN Joint Programme Partners for Prevention is neutralized due to the
> colonial white supremacist lens that inevitably this research will be
> viewed through. The racialization of violence against women and men who
> perpetrate violence against women is as resistant to change as is racism in
> and of itself.
>
> The particular othering the men who participated in this research serves
> to reinforce the stratification and these oppressive frames.
>
> We simply cannot discuss the issue of male violence against women without
> putting it in the context of white supremacy, colonialism and imperialism.
> This research appears lacks this very important context. So we end up with
> the same old conclusions  being drawn.
>
> And since it appears that the researchers are not from the communities,
> lands, territories, countries being analyzed we are unable to assess the
> particular historic legal social realities for the men who participated in
> the research to understand how masculinity was shaped and formed sexism,
> misogyny the use of violence sexism within the relationship women.
>
> At the moment it appears that the only research that is being conducted
> about male violence against women that reaches the mainstream is with men
> of colour.
>
> A
>
>
> On 2013-09-11, at 9:16 AM, "Jarrah" <jarrahhodge at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that info, Sue. I was initially asked to go on On the Coast
> yesterday to talk about that Lancet study by the UN but I got bumped so
> wrote this article instead:
> http://www.gender-focus.com/2013/09/10/global-lessons-un-study-violence-against-women-asia/
>
> On the rape chant issue, that's the topic of today's Twitter #sheparty.
> Anyone's welcome to drop in between 12-1 Pacific on the #sheparty hashtag
> to share thoughts.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Joanna Chiu <chiu.joanna5 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Sue,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing the Lancet article! What do you mean by participation
>> of WAMmers in the panel? I imagine some members of our listserv may attend
>> as audience members who may engage in dialogue with panelists, and Anisa
>> who's kept us informed on this thread works at the UBC Sexual Assault
>> Centre.
>>
>> Joanna
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Susan Hughson <sue at suehughson.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Here is a new article from the Lancet that is timely, and I believe the
>> UN report on status of women was released yesterday.
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS2214-109X(13)70074-3/abstract
>> >
>> > A panel with the Sexual Assault Centre, Student Union, reps from UBC,
>> AMS, and Sauder admin with an invitation to broader community groups would
>> be timely. Are WAMmers already in progress with this idea? If yes, would
>> you be interested in participation from BC Humanist Association? Many of
>> our members have strong articulate opinions on the Sauder frosh incident
>> and its connection to global sexism/misogyny.
>> >
>> > Sue
>> >
>> > On 2013-09-10, at 10:58 PM, "Cynthia K." <cyn.khoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Completely agreed, and with what others above have said, as well. The
>> worst would be everyone seeing this as akin to an "isolated incident"
>> (albeit longstanding one) as opposed to just one instance of a much (even)
>> more widespread and fundamental problem (ie. rape culture at large).
>> >>
>> >> On 2013-09-11, at 1:44 PM, Lyn Cockburn <lyncockburn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'm concerned that some media outlets and UBC itself is giving the
>> impression - directly or indirectly - that the only problem here is the
>> chant itself and not the rape culture it represents.After all, goes that
>> logic, we are in a 'post feminist' era just as we've been in a 'post
>> racist' era since the day Barack Obama was elected US president and so
>> surely we don't have to waste any more time talking about how sexist or
>> racist our society is. Therefore, if we get rid of these chants, the
>> problem is solved.
>> >>> Perhaps, we could have a discussion about how to open people's eyes
>> as to what the chant represents and how to speak up both against the chant
>> itself and the mindset it promotes.
>> >>> Lyn
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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