[Wamvan] UBC Sauder rape chant

Tue Sep 10 10:20:38 PDT 2013

also, here's the response from CUPE 2278:

http://cupe2278.ca/blog/?p=830

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Natalie Hill <nhill10 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> http://www.vancouverobserver.com/city/fck-rape-culture-graffiti-defaces-ubc-building
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> "F*ck rape culture" graffiti defaces UBC building
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> Posted: Sep 9th, 2013
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> Anti-rape graffiti <http://ubyssey.ca/news/sauder-koerner-graffiti-121/> was
> scrawled across the UBC Sauder School of business and the plaza outside the Walter
> C. Koerner library after students allegedly participated in a variation
> of a cheer condoning underage rape.
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> ............
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> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Jarrah <jarrahhodge at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I don't know, I'm still not satisfied with the Sauder response. Other
>> than pulling funding from frosh, it smacks of vague PR damage control.
>>
>> In addition, we're now learning that Sauder also had racist/colonialist
>> chants (https://twitter.com/OccupyMedic/status/377210450523340800/photo/1)
>> - a couple students are trying to get some media interested but we'll see.
>> The one referenced at the link is that apparently they had a group called
>> "Pocahontas" whose chant was "White man steal our land! White man steal our
>> land!"
>>
>> Instead of increasing the curriculum emphasis on "respect" and "ethics",
>> how about some actual anti-oppression training and integrating a critique
>> of rape culture?
>>
>> In both the UBC and SMU cases I'd like to see the student councils take
>> more ownership of the issue and commit to re-visioning frosh as something
>> that can be fun while challenging oppression, dismantling rape culture, and
>> being overall inclusive and safe.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Joanna Chiu <chiu.joanna5 at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> There shouldn't be lower standards for business schools, but I'm glad
>>> UBC and AMS made strong statements too and are taking concrete actions. I
>>> wonder what it'd take to change the culture at Sauder and other places.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Alexandra Tse <alex_tse at sfu.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wish Sauder had actually acknowledged and promised to address rape
>>>> culture, like how the UBC Alma Mater Society did in this statement,
>>>> which was very impressive: http://ht.ly/oFc8a. But I guess they did
>>>> okay for a business school and this should count as a victory.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing Joanna!
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Joanna Chiu" <chiu.joanna5 at gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *"wamvan" <wamvan at lists.resist.ca>
>>>> *Sent: *Monday, 9 September, 2013 22:26:53
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Wamvan] UBC Sauder rape chant
>>>>
>>>> Breaking news:
>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/09/09/bc-ubc-frosh-rape-chant.html
>>>>
>>>> The University of British Columbia has pulled its support for commerce
>>>> students' frosh week events following allegations students used a chant
>>>> promoting non-consensual sex with minors during a recent orientation event.
>>>>
>>>> "What is reported to have happened at frosh this year is deeply
>>>> upsetting and is completely inconsistent with the values of the school and
>>>> UBC,” said Robert Helsley, dean of the Sauder School of Business, in a
>>>> statement issued Monday.
>>>>
>>>> "Based on initial information I have received, there is enough for me
>>>> to conclude that the school should end its support for frosh."
>>>>
>>>> Helsley said he understands why people are upset.
>>>>
>>>> "People are expressing their indignation over these events. And I share
>>>> those views."
>>>>
>>>> In addition to withdrawing support for the Commerce Undergraduate
>>>> Society frosh events, university officials said they are also launching a
>>>> fact-finding investigation into the incident and increasing the emphasis in
>>>> the curriculum on issues related to respect, dignity and ethics.
>>>>
>>>> The school said it would look to work with the student society to
>>>> develop more appropriate orientation events for first-year students in the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> "While such activities are completely unacceptable, and it is easy to
>>>> direct blame, it is my view that all of us can play a greater role in
>>>> addressing discriminating and hurtful language and actions,” said UBC's
>>>> vice-president of students Louise Cowin.
>>>>
>>>> "The current moment provides an opportunity for the UBC community to
>>>> engage in such reflection and learning," said Cowin.
>>>>  Reaction on campus
>>>>
>>>> Students at the school on Monday expressed a range of opinions on the
>>>> chant.
>>>>
>>>> Tian Yi, a first-year business student, said she was on the bus when
>>>> second- and third-year students led the chant.
>>>>
>>>> "I thought it was a bit disturbing, but I just ignored them, so I just
>>>> didn't really participate." she said. "Yeah, they told us not to talk to
>>>> people about it."
>>>>
>>>> Frosh event volunteer Susanna Yao seemed less concerned.
>>>>
>>>> "I know it happened in the night right? Because people are very crazy,
>>>> and so..."
>>>>
>>>> Earlier on Monday morning the sign outside the Sauder School of
>>>> Business was spray-painted with graffiti expressing outrage over the chant.
>>>>
>>>> "F--k Rape Culture' and "Sauder School of Business Teaches Rape," said
>>>> the graffiti, which was quickly removed, leaving only faint marks behind.
>>>> Chant used on bus trip
>>>>
>>>> The use of the chant at UBC came to light after a first-year business
>>>> student posted the lyrics on Twitter<http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/09/07/bc-ubc-frosh-pro-rape-chant.html>,
>>>> condemning the chant, along with a report in the student newspaper, The
>>>> Ubyssey.
>>>>
>>>>    - *Read more about the frosh event*<http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/09/07/bc-ubc-frosh-pro-rape-chant.html>
>>>>
>>>> The chant condones non-consensual sex with underage girls saying,
>>>> "Y-O-U-N-G at UBC, we like 'em young, Y is for your sister, O is for oh so
>>>> tight, U is for underage, N is for no consent, G is for go to jail."
>>>>
>>>> Students said the chant has been used for 20 years, and this year frosh
>>>> week organizers didn't prevent it, allowing students to chant it on the bus
>>>> while travelling to an event, but not in public.
>>>>
>>>> The Commerce Undergraduate Society has issued a statement saying there
>>>> was little they could do to stop it.
>>>>
>>>> The revelations come only days after student leaders at Nova Scotia'sSaint
>>>> Mary's University were caught on camera<http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2013/09/05/ns-saint-marys-video-apology.html> chanting
>>>> about non-consensual underage sex during frosh week at the Halifax school.
>>>>
>>>> Jared Perry, chair of Students Nova Scotia and president of the student
>>>> council at Saint Mary's, stepped down from his position in light of the
>>>> controversy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Frieda Werden <frieda.werden at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well at least the cheer contains an understanding of the repercussions
>>>>> - underage and no consent leads to Go to jail.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Alexandra Tse <alex_tse at sfu.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey WAM, let's show these fuckers who they're up against.
>>>>>> http://ubyssey.ca/news/sauder-chant-325/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's put on the facebook and twitter pressure NOW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Copy and paste this tweet or write your own:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey @UBCSauderSchool, do something about this: http://ht.ly/oF3re You're
>>>>>> supposed to educate people, right? #cultureofrespect #rapejokes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Join me and Cynthia and Tami on UBC Sauder's facebook page here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sauderschool/posts/671814579514611
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Write a message on your own wall and tag "Sauder School of Business
>>>>>> at the University of British Columbia" (Unfortunately I think you have to
>>>>>> Like their facebook page before you can tag them).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's do this! Fuck Sauder admin for saying that rape jokes are okay
>>>>>> as long as the students do it privately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
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