[Wamvan] UBC Sauder rape chant

Tue Sep 10 06:31:27 PDT 2013

I don't know, I'm still not satisfied with the Sauder response. Other than
pulling funding from frosh, it smacks of vague PR damage control.

In addition, we're now learning that Sauder also had racist/colonialist
chants (https://twitter.com/OccupyMedic/status/377210450523340800/photo/1)
- a couple students are trying to get some media interested but we'll see.
The one referenced at the link is that apparently they had a group called
"Pocahontas" whose chant was "White man steal our land! White man steal our
land!"

Instead of increasing the curriculum emphasis on "respect" and "ethics",
how about some actual anti-oppression training and integrating a critique
of rape culture?

In both the UBC and SMU cases I'd like to see the student councils take
more ownership of the issue and commit to re-visioning frosh as something
that can be fun while challenging oppression, dismantling rape culture, and
being overall inclusive and safe.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Joanna Chiu <chiu.joanna5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> There shouldn't be lower standards for business schools, but I'm glad UBC
> and AMS made strong statements too and are taking concrete actions. I
> wonder what it'd take to change the culture at Sauder and other places.
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> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Alexandra Tse <alex_tse at sfu.ca> wrote:
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>> I wish Sauder had actually acknowledged and promised to address rape
>> culture, like how the UBC Alma Mater Society did in this statement,
>> which was very impressive: http://ht.ly/oFc8a. But I guess they did okay
>> for a business school and this should count as a victory.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing Joanna!
>> Alex
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>> *From: *"Joanna Chiu" <chiu.joanna5 at gmail.com>
>> *To: *"wamvan" <wamvan at lists.resist.ca>
>> *Sent: *Monday, 9 September, 2013 22:26:53
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>> *Subject: *Re: [Wamvan] UBC Sauder rape chant
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>> Breaking news:
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/09/09/bc-ubc-frosh-rape-chant.html
>>
>> The University of British Columbia has pulled its support for commerce
>> students' frosh week events following allegations students used a chant
>> promoting non-consensual sex with minors during a recent orientation event.
>>
>> "What is reported to have happened at frosh this year is deeply upsetting
>> and is completely inconsistent with the values of the school and UBC,” said
>> Robert Helsley, dean of the Sauder School of Business, in a statement
>> issued Monday.
>>
>> "Based on initial information I have received, there is enough for me to
>> conclude that the school should end its support for frosh."
>>
>> Helsley said he understands why people are upset.
>>
>> "People are expressing their indignation over these events. And I share
>> those views."
>>
>> In addition to withdrawing support for the Commerce Undergraduate Society
>> frosh events, university officials said they are also launching a
>> fact-finding investigation into the incident and increasing the emphasis in
>> the curriculum on issues related to respect, dignity and ethics.
>>
>> The school said it would look to work with the student society to develop
>> more appropriate orientation events for first-year students in the future.
>>
>> "While such activities are completely unacceptable, and it is easy to
>> direct blame, it is my view that all of us can play a greater role in
>> addressing discriminating and hurtful language and actions,” said UBC's
>> vice-president of students Louise Cowin.
>>
>> "The current moment provides an opportunity for the UBC community to
>> engage in such reflection and learning," said Cowin.
>>  Reaction on campus
>>
>> Students at the school on Monday expressed a range of opinions on the
>> chant.
>>
>> Tian Yi, a first-year business student, said she was on the bus when
>> second- and third-year students led the chant.
>>
>> "I thought it was a bit disturbing, but I just ignored them, so I just
>> didn't really participate." she said. "Yeah, they told us not to talk to
>> people about it."
>>
>> Frosh event volunteer Susanna Yao seemed less concerned.
>>
>> "I know it happened in the night right? Because people are very crazy,
>> and so..."
>>
>> Earlier on Monday morning the sign outside the Sauder School of Business
>> was spray-painted with graffiti expressing outrage over the chant.
>>
>> "F--k Rape Culture' and "Sauder School of Business Teaches Rape," said
>> the graffiti, which was quickly removed, leaving only faint marks behind.
>> Chant used on bus trip
>>
>> The use of the chant at UBC came to light after a first-year business
>> student posted the lyrics on Twitter<http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/09/07/bc-ubc-frosh-pro-rape-chant.html>,
>> condemning the chant, along with a report in the student newspaper, The
>> Ubyssey.
>>
>>    - *Read more about the frosh event*<http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/09/07/bc-ubc-frosh-pro-rape-chant.html>
>>
>> The chant condones non-consensual sex with underage girls saying,
>> "Y-O-U-N-G at UBC, we like 'em young, Y is for your sister, O is for oh so
>> tight, U is for underage, N is for no consent, G is for go to jail."
>>
>> Students said the chant has been used for 20 years, and this year frosh
>> week organizers didn't prevent it, allowing students to chant it on the bus
>> while travelling to an event, but not in public.
>>
>> The Commerce Undergraduate Society has issued a statement saying there
>> was little they could do to stop it.
>>
>> The revelations come only days after student leaders at Nova Scotia'sSaint
>> Mary's University were caught on camera<http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2013/09/05/ns-saint-marys-video-apology.html> chanting
>> about non-consensual underage sex during frosh week at the Halifax school.
>>
>> Jared Perry, chair of Students Nova Scotia and president of the student
>> council at Saint Mary's, stepped down from his position in light of the
>> controversy.
>>
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>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Frieda Werden <frieda.werden at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Well at least the cheer contains an understanding of the repercussions -
>>> underage and no consent leads to Go to jail.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Alexandra Tse <alex_tse at sfu.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey WAM, let's show these fuckers who they're up against.
>>>> http://ubyssey.ca/news/sauder-chant-325/
>>>>
>>>> Let's put on the facebook and twitter pressure NOW.
>>>>
>>>> Copy and paste this tweet or write your own:
>>>>
>>>> Hey @UBCSauderSchool, do something about this: http://ht.ly/oF3re You're
>>>> supposed to educate people, right? #cultureofrespect #rapejokes
>>>>
>>>> Join me and Cynthia and Tami on UBC Sauder's facebook page here:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sauderschool/posts/671814579514611
>>>>
>>>> Write a message on your own wall and tag "Sauder School of Business at
>>>> the University of British Columbia" (Unfortunately I think you have to Like
>>>> their facebook page before you can tag them).
>>>>
>>>> Let's do this! Fuck Sauder admin for saying that rape jokes are okay as
>>>> long as the students do it privately.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
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