[Wamvan] Walking for Rape Relief

Tue May 17 08:46:59 PDT 2011

Hi everyone,
Thanks for your thoughtful responses to my question, Tami and Kalamity.
Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the discussion due to being overseas for the next while, but I look forward to reading about what comes of it.
Sincerely,Cynthia

> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 22:57:06 -0700
> From: harsha at resist.ca
> To: wamvan at lists.resist.ca
> Subject: Re: [Wamvan] Walking for Rape Relief
> 
> hi all,
> 
> sorry haven't read all the strings but do believe this too be an important
> issue and def best discussed in person.
> 
> if i can support, pls let me know. i can arrange space at the dtes women's
> centre (after hours - so empty meeting room basically) in the evenings,
> depending on day and if agreeable to others.
> 
> in terms of facilitation and 'neutrality': i think a WAM meeting to
> facilitate conversation amongst the group and to establish consensus does
> about WAM principles require more of a hands-off facilitator than say an
> anti-oppression workshop on transphobia facilitated by a trainer on the
> specific issue. while of course facilitators of meeting and workshops
> should all have an anti-oppression analysis, the *tone* of a meeting vs a
> workshop is quite different in terms of level of engagement of the
> facilitator.
> 
> i do also think a specific agenda is helpful at the outset - ie is it
> WAM's trans-inclusion policy (what that means in practice not just
> stated); a specific conversation about rape relief (the issues here extend
> beyond their trans policy); establishing a broader basis of unity (someone
> mentioned decrim and sex work as points of conversation); email list
> protocols (ie if someone posts information from or about an organization
> that may not meet WAM's to-be-determined mandate). while these are all
> overlapping, a focus would be helpful.
> 
> just some thoughts, harsha
> 
> 
> 
> > Hello again.
> >
> > I have ties to Vancouver Rape Relief that go back a few years. I want to
> > speak with some of the members, who I have worked with, before I take a
> > stance on this thread. Tami, Kalamity, I hear you. I do not want to ignore
> > oppression in any form, while focusing on some 'greater good.' Frieda,
> > thank you for your words on feminists sticking together.
> >
> > Elyse, I don't think we
> > can frame our core values before having this larger debate (which
> > Frieda will be included in, end of June.)
> >  but I am willing to give it a shot. I am free on the 23 May, 2011.
> >
> > Thanks for being so alive, people.
> > Farida
> >
> > A
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:30 PM, E J
> > <the.xenophiles.violin at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I don't want anyone who wishes to participate in the discussion/debate
> >> surrounding VRR to feel left out of it, so I think it could be saved for
> >> June when Frieda gets back.
> >>
> >> However, I do think it would be very beneficial for the organizers to
> >> meet
> >> as soon as possible to discuss and outline the core values of WAM
> >> Vancouver,
> >> as Kalamity suggested above. I know we've already established that the
> >> group
> >> is to be trans-inclusive, intersectional, etc. (as per the international
> >> WAM
> >> statements and our own values as a group), but we may need to formally
> >> take
> >> a position on some of these issues in order to ensure that everyone's on
> >> the
> >> same page and to avoid future conflicts.
> >>
> >> For what it's worth, given VRR's track record, I have a feeling the
> >> international WAM would not endorse or support it. (Just being honest
> >> here.)
> >>
> >> Is it possible to divide these into two separate discussions?
> >>
> >> I'm free on the 22nd and 23rd.
> >>
> >> Elyse
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Joanna Chiu
> >> <chiu.joanna5 at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> how would that work? Would we have to pay a fee?
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Frieda Werden
> >>> <frieda.werden at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Let's get a moderator through the Centre for Dialogue at SFU.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Joanna Chiu
> >>>> <chiu.joanna5 at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Oh shoot, I didn't notice that Kalamity was not free next Tuesday.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do any of these dates work for people?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sunday, May 22nd
> >>>>> Monday, May 23rd
> >>>>> Sunday, May 29
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Frieda: Yes, I agree that our moderator should try her best to
> >>>>> withhold
> >>>>> her personal opinion in order to effectively moderate.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It might be hard to find someone that's completely lacks an opinion
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> these issues, but if someone is willing to fill this role for us,
> >>>>> please
> >>>>> step up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Otherwise, can we think of someone outside of WAM that we can
> >>>>> approach
> >>>>> to help us moderate?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Joanna
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Joanna Chiu
> >>>>> <chiu.joanna5 at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I think end of June would be too late. Does next Tuesday evening
> >>>>>> work
> >>>>>> for you?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you'll be out of town, maybe we can skype you in?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Joanna
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Frieda Werden <
> >>>>>> frieda.werden at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would be happy to participate in a group discussion about this
> >>>>>>> issue, both to learn and to make my case.  End of June?
> >>>>>>>
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