[Viva] Voices

Tue Mar 17 17:29:59 PDT 2020

Tami is my friend. There is no blame going on in my head whatsoever.  Get a
grip.  Tami is way above the blame game .  Take care all.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:03 AM Denise Wozniak <deniseswozniak at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm here watching and reading.
>
> Getting into the Blame Game helps no one. We can learn from the past and
> move forward. Thank you Anne Bonner for showing kindness. If you are
> undetectable, there is information that you will not be at added risk,
> which is a relief.  I try to think of the fear when I got HIV and hiding my
> diagnosis over 25 years ago. This seems much less horrific than that. We
> have shown the world we can carry on despite the stigma.  We are leaders
> and have been through worse.
>
> Keep strong everyone!
>
> Denise
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 9:24 AM anne bonner <thewoodbuffalo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think Tami is taking it seriously. I feel like a lot of us are on the
>> outskirts of this group for various reasons, and that's ok. But when
>> someone speaks up with a concern, we need to listen.
>>
>> in these coming days, maybe weeks, lets remain aware and do the work to
>> ensure our community is diverse and inclusive, with strong circles.
>> that through sharing, education and awareness - we can overcome anything.
>>
>> I agree. A lot of people are going into isolation and we need to stick
>> together, support one another, listen to each other, and reach out when we
>> need help.
>>
>> And get along, damit.
>>
>> If anybody needs an ear in the next while, if you're feeling lonesome or
>> struggling with sobriety or anything like that, feel free to shoot me a
>> text and we can set up a time to talk. If you only have a landline, just
>> call me. 250-208-6124. I have time on my hands these days!
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:53 AM shelly tognazzini <
>> shetognazzini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You are the one amongst founding members .  Your voice is respected
>>> here.   You manage the list serve.   We  respect that .  You are managing
>>> this minor link to wlhiv.  Take it seriously .
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:38 AM Tami Starlight<tamistarlight at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> tansi people,
>>>>
>>>> tami here.
>>>>
>>>> founding member of VIVA and listserv admin/creator.
>>>> blaaa blaaa...and so on and so on.
>>>>
>>>> i exclaim the blaa blaaas......because our world is so upside down and
>>>> backwards with titles and social agency abusers.
>>>> I call much of it - colonization.
>>>>
>>>> i definitely am acutely aware of the covid-19 scare that is happening.
>>>> all over the news - matter of fact - it is all there is to report about
>>>> now, it seems. thats some bullshit.
>>>> i am down with educating the public about minimizing its spread  and
>>>> especially for people like us, with compromised immunity and other
>>>> conditions that makes ones health a vulnerable population.
>>>>
>>>> i have been in the background of VIVA for sometime now. years actually.
>>>> a few reasons, one being how much supports and lowering transmission
>>>> rates, better meds and so on.
>>>> that and the amount of cis white men running the non profit industrial
>>>> complex since the big hay days in the late 1990's.
>>>>
>>>> i certainly have witnessed my fare share of oppression within VIVA as a
>>>> two spirit trans experienced woman.
>>>> for me, that is paramount to strong inclusive circles. that airy fairy
>>>> nonsense that there is some magical unity that appears out of the sky?
>>>> hardly, it is hard and fought for by the very people DIRECTLY AFFECTED.
>>>> this is easily understood by those positive people who fought for their
>>>> place in the world, especially the medical community. GIPA/MIPA.
>>>>
>>>> i wonder how many in this list are anti trans?
>>>>
>>>> division and oppression are viruses. they toxify and harm our community
>>>> daily, unless checked and treated - through education and awareness.
>>>>
>>>> in these coming days, maybe weeks, lets remain aware and do the work to
>>>> ensure our community is diverse and inclusive, with strong circles.
>>>> that through sharing, education and awareness - we can overcome
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>> ALL OUR RELATIONS
>>>>
>>>> Hiy Hiy/Thank you/Merci
>>>> *She-Her-Hers / They-Them-Theirs*
>>>> *Tami M. Starlight*
>>>> Unceded Coast Salish Territory
>>>> Vancouver, Canada
>>>> tamistarlight at gmail.com
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/TheAntiONetwork
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/TheAntiONetwork>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/TheAntiONetwork>
>>>> http://theantioppressionnetwork.com
>>>> <http://theantioppressionnetwork.wordpress.com>
>>>>
>>>> https://noterfsnoswerfs.com/  <https://noterfsnoswerfs.com/>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/TheCoalitionAgainstTransAntagonism/
>>>>
>>>> twitter/instagram = @noterfsnoswerfs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 10:52 PM Danielle Lucia <
>>>> northern.islander at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Shelly... and everyone
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know what to say exactly.  That is nothing new.   My voice to
>>>>> make a difference was never very loud.  In the past, when I could be
>>>>> physically present, I was good at hands-on grunt work.  Making ideas and
>>>>> plans was not my forte.  Likewise has it been for me as a member of VIVA.
>>>>> I am the quiet one who is rarely seen although, to be honest,  that has a
>>>>> lot to do with island remoteness.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isolation is not new to me.  In 3 decades I have grappled with HIV,
>>>>> tuberculosis, and chronic kidney disease.   Adopting a cloistered lifestyle
>>>>> was simply a practical side effect of  self-care.   Now we all face an
>>>>> imposed isolation that may go on for months rather than a few weeks.   In
>>>>> my experience, the narrowing scope of a life separated from society gives
>>>>> me very little of  import or interest to share with others.
>>>>>
>>>>> All that said, I sense that a line of communication, this VIVA list,
>>>>> should remain open because it seems to me that some of you may have ideas
>>>>> and plans for making something happen, whereas  I'm afraid I am so
>>>>> out of touch with community that I don't even have an idea of *what* is
>>>>> needed.   I can only have the *possibility *to contribute if this
>>>>> forum stays available.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay safe out there!
>>>>> ♡ Danielle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 6:06 PM shelly tognazzini <
>>>>> shetognazzini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Considering all, I am feeling like if ViVA needs to make a
>>>>>> difference, it does now.   If there are women that want to speak and
>>>>>> share,  and use this platform, now would be a good time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am ok.  I am stocked up. My health is not as great.   I gradually
>>>>>> bought supplies, one can and a store at a time actually.  My recent
>>>>>> diagnosis of COPD scares me more than HIV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How many women are listening?  Speak up if you want ViVA to
>>>>>> continue,  I think we need to recognize whether we actually have an
>>>>>> audience or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If not, then we can cease and redefine.  Just a thought.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugs, looking forward to voices or a reason to stop worrying,
>>>>>> Shelly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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