[Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff

Denise Becker dbecker106 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 14 10:43:40 PST 2012 

I had a friend with the same problem!  She was steered away and eventually
insisted because she wanted to say she had the test - low and behold she
had HIV!
d

On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:42 AM, anne bonner <thewoodbuffalo at gmail.com>wrote:

> This is a little off topic but I have young straight friends who have gone
> in to get tested and the doctor steered them away from getting tested,
> telling them they weren't at risk.  Men and women.  This totally appalled
> me.  This was 3 people I knew, different doctors.   I wonder what we would
> hear if we asked more young straight folks what their doctors say about
> testing.
>
> A
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Lisa Lagos <llagos at telus.net> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Hi again:  When asked if anyone can say they know of a man getting it
>> from a woman, I thought I could say "yes", but then again, it really wasn't
>> proven because the man had so many other high risk behaviors (ie. IV drug
>> use).  It was to do with a man having oral sex with an HIV pos. woman.  The
>> HIV pos. woman, whom he knew was positive, had herpes (apparantly) and the
>> guy got a cold sore.  Now, the assumption was back in those days that this
>> was a scenerio where he may have contacted HIV via the infected herpe. (In
>> fact I recall some documentation on this type of thing before)  However, I
>> remember now that he did get tested and it came back negative. (was it just
>> the "window"?) Years later, he died of aids, having never known he was
>> positive.   So, food for thought.
>> Naturally, I tend to forget that times have changed since I was diagnosed
>> 21 years ago.  When my friend first told me about it I didn't think he had
>> caught more than herpes since his encounter with his girlfriend.  Also, his
>> wife of many years insisted she was HIV negative (never tested though).  I
>> think like someone said, it is SELF RESPONSIBILITY in all cases.  If my
>> husband was not positive, I know I would feel he was safe to have sex with
>> me, providing that was his decision.
>> I do tend to ramble on, I admit.  Its just such an interesting subject.
>> Happy Saturday all.
>> Lisa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Denise Becker <dbecker106 at gmail.com>
>> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 7:55 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff
>>
>> Yes Sharyle!  Good point.  I also saw stats where men did not want to be
>> labelled as gay or bi-sexual and so they said they got it through straight
>> sex.
>>
>> D
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Sharyle Lyndon <sharyle at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> personally I believe its the way stats are prioritized(sp)if you have
>>> sex with 1000 women (wishful thinking) and... its recorded by the higher
>>> risk behavior,eg.sex with 1 man and/or 1  needle share.
>>> I just thought it was about time I added my two cents about something
>>>
>>> Happy  New Year everyone
>>>
>>> sharyle
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Kath Webster <kathwebster at shaw.ca>
>>> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca
>>>  *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 7:30 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff
>>>
>>>  Female to male transmission is significantly more likely when sexually
>>> transmitted infections (STIs) are present.  I’m sure there are stats out
>>> there.  In terms of female to female , the stats aren’t out there because
>>> aside from a very few rare exceptional cases (like under 5 ever reported in
>>> N. America) it just doesn’t happen...   So the fact that 25 years has gone
>>> by and this hasn’t changed is simply more reassuring in my mind!****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> *From:* viva-bounces at lists.resist.ca [mailto:
>>> viva-bounces at lists.resist.ca] *On Behalf Of *Denise Becker
>>> *Sent:* January-13-12 7:12 PM
>>> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> yes, why aren't there any stats? It doesn't make sense.****
>>>
>>> D****
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Sharyle Lyndon <sharyle at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> ****
>>>
>>> you may wait a long time,I've been waiting for more than 25 years for
>>> some new stats on woman to woman infection****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> sharyle****
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Funke <funkeilumoka at yahoo.com> ****
>>>
>>> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca ****
>>>
>>> *Cc:* viva at lists.resist.ca ****
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 6:55 PM****
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> AFRICA. Transmission is majority hetero, but note that it is a different
>>> strain. I have met woman to man cases.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone****
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2012-01-13, at 6:46 PM, Denise Becker <dbecker106 at gmail.com> wrote:**
>>> **
>>>
>>>  So.. is there anyone here willing to say that they actually personally
>>> know of a straight man getting HIV from a woman through sex?  I was with
>>> Lloyd 18 years and he never got it.  I have never met a man who got it from
>>> a woman and have never met a woman who passed it on to a man.  Someday I
>>> would like to finally hear some statistics. ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Is it just me?****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Denise****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Lisa Lagos <llagos at telus.net> wrote:***
>>> *
>>>
>>> Hi Peggy:  It's so scary to hear that the *thought *is out there, let
>>> alone that the man couldn't get a *medical test?!  *****
>>>
>>> I know it's been common knowledge (whispered knowledge) that it's not as
>>> easy for a man to get hiv from a female as it is for a female to get it
>>> from a male. But lately there's been too much certainty about this in the
>>> air, especially with the addition of medications that keep the viral load
>>> down.   There is still risk (ie. the person not adhereing to meds, persons
>>> with active herpes could pass HIV from one to the other, the person may not
>>> be telling the truth etc. etc.)****
>>>
>>> But all the endless possibilities aside, since when did doctors stop
>>> erring on the side of caution?  ****
>>>
>>> Thanks Peggy.****
>>>
>>> Lisa L.****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message ----- ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Peggy Frank <pegfrank at telus.net> ****
>>>
>>> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca ****
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 7:02 AM****
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> hi - great conversation - sorry to miss it. I will not be on the
>>> conversation as I am heading east then to visit parents - but have an
>>> alarming conversation to share.  While speaking on a radio show with a
>>> friend about HIV and sex a man called in from the San Francisco Bay area
>>> and said that he could not get an HIV test unless he said he was bi.
>>>  Straight men were not considered at risk no matter what their activity.
>>>  this conversation made me wonder - what is the situation for testing in
>>> bc? and then the devil in me thought - if there is no risk for straight men
>>> its time to party. can't envision that without a condom. would love to open
>>> this conversation to know what others have found. ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> also recently listening to someone i met at dance class talk about
>>> polyamory and wondered what education this community is accessing regarding
>>> sti's.  just curious...****
>>>
>>>
>>> Peggy Frank****
>>>
>>> Victoria,  BC  ****
>>>
>>> Canada V8R 1L9****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> www.positivelyafrica.org****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> She who finds the path - the right path - does so for herself; and when
>>> she goes astray she creates her own loss and pain; and no one who carries a
>>> burden bears another's load.  Taken from - "He who finds the right path
>>> does so for himself; and he who goes astray does so to his own loss; and no
>>> one who carries a burden bears another man's load."  Al-Qur'an 17:15****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> On 2012-01-12, at 10:23 PM, Kath Webster wrote:****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> The event below is for staff *or* *volunteers* who are HIV positive and
>>> working directly with other HIV positive people in Vancouver.****
>>>
>>> It should be a dynamic discussion.  Hope to see some of you there.
>>> Contact Margreth Tolson  to rsvp (see below)****
>>>
>>> Cheers, Kath****
>>>
>>> *STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff*****
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