[Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff

Fri Jan 13 19:55:05 PST 2012

Yes Sharyle!  Good point.  I also saw stats where men did not want to be
labelled as gay or bi-sexual and so they said they got it through straight
sex.

D

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Sharyle Lyndon <sharyle at shaw.ca> wrote:

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> personally I believe its the way stats are prioritized(sp)if you have sex
> with 1000 women (wishful thinking) and... its recorded by the higher risk
> behavior,eg.sex with 1 man and/or 1  needle share.
> I just thought it was about time I added my two cents about something
>
> Happy  New Year everyone
>
> sharyle
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kath Webster <kathwebster at shaw.ca>
> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca
> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 7:30 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff
>
>  Female to male transmission is significantly more likely when sexually
> transmitted infections (STIs) are present.  I’m sure there are stats out
> there.  In terms of female to female , the stats aren’t out there because
> aside from a very few rare exceptional cases (like under 5 ever reported in
> N. America) it just doesn’t happen...   So the fact that 25 years has gone
> by and this hasn’t changed is simply more reassuring in my mind!****
>
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> *From:* viva-bounces at lists.resist.ca [mailto:viva-bounces at lists.resist.ca]
> *On Behalf Of *Denise Becker
> *Sent:* January-13-12 7:12 PM
> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca
> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff****
>
> ** **
>
> yes, why aren't there any stats? It doesn't make sense.****
>
> D****
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Sharyle Lyndon <sharyle at shaw.ca> wrote:**
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>
> you may wait a long time,I've been waiting for more than 25 years for some
> new stats on woman to woman infection****
>
>  ****
>
> sharyle****
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- ****
>
> *From:* Funke <funkeilumoka at yahoo.com> ****
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> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca ****
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> *Cc:* viva at lists.resist.ca ****
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> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 6:55 PM****
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> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff****
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>
> AFRICA. Transmission is majority hetero, but note that it is a different
> strain. I have met woman to man cases.
>
> Sent from my iPhone****
>
>
> On 2012-01-13, at 6:46 PM, Denise Becker <dbecker106 at gmail.com> wrote:****
>
>  So.. is there anyone here willing to say that they actually personally
> know of a straight man getting HIV from a woman through sex?  I was with
> Lloyd 18 years and he never got it.  I have never met a man who got it from
> a woman and have never met a woman who passed it on to a man.  Someday I
> would like to finally hear some statistics. ****
>
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> Is it just me?****
>
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>
> Denise****
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> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Lisa Lagos <llagos at telus.net> wrote:****
>
> Hi Peggy:  It's so scary to hear that the *thought *is out there, let
> alone that the man couldn't get a *medical test?!  *****
>
> I know it's been common knowledge (whispered knowledge) that it's not as
> easy for a man to get hiv from a female as it is for a female to get it
> from a male. But lately there's been too much certainty about this in the
> air, especially with the addition of medications that keep the viral load
> down.   There is still risk (ie. the person not adhereing to meds, persons
> with active herpes could pass HIV from one to the other, the person may not
> be telling the truth etc. etc.)****
>
> But all the endless possibilities aside, since when did doctors stop
> erring on the side of caution?  ****
>
> Thanks Peggy.****
>
> Lisa L.****
>
>  ****
>
>   ----- Original Message ----- ****
>
> *From:* Peggy Frank <pegfrank at telus.net> ****
>
> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca ****
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 7:02 AM****
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff****
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> ** **
>
> hi - great conversation - sorry to miss it. I will not be on the
> conversation as I am heading east then to visit parents - but have an
> alarming conversation to share.  While speaking on a radio show with a
> friend about HIV and sex a man called in from the San Francisco Bay area
> and said that he could not get an HIV test unless he said he was bi.
>  Straight men were not considered at risk no matter what their activity.
>  this conversation made me wonder - what is the situation for testing in
> bc? and then the devil in me thought - if there is no risk for straight men
> its time to party. can't envision that without a condom. would love to open
> this conversation to know what others have found. ****
>
> ** **
>
> also recently listening to someone i met at dance class talk about
> polyamory and wondered what education this community is accessing regarding
> sti's.  just curious...****
>
>
> Peggy Frank****
>
> Victoria,  BC  ****
>
> Canada V8R 1L9****
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> www.positivelyafrica.org****
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> She who finds the path - the right path - does so for herself; and when
> she goes astray she creates her own loss and pain; and no one who carries a
> burden bears another's load.  Taken from - "He who finds the right path
> does so for himself; and he who goes astray does so to his own loss; and no
> one who carries a burden bears another man's load."  Al-Qur'an 17:15****
>
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> On 2012-01-12, at 10:23 PM, Kath Webster wrote:****
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> ****
>
> The event below is for staff *or* *volunteers* who are HIV positive and
> working directly with other HIV positive people in Vancouver.****
>
> It should be a dynamic discussion.  Hope to see some of you there.
> Contact Margreth Tolson  to rsvp (see below)****
>
> Cheers, Kath****
>
> *STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff*****
>
> ·        Are you a person living with HIV?****
>
> ·        Do you work with people who are HIV+ or at risk for HIV, helping
> them to access services for testing, treatment and support in Vancouver?**
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>
> The Vancouver STOP HIV project would like to hear from you.****
>
> *We are holding a discussion group for HIV+ people, who are in paid or
> unpaid work supporting people to access services, to hear about your
> personal and professional experience with HIV testing, diagnosis and
> treatment.*****
>
> Your input will help us to improve services for people living with and at
> risk for HIV.****
>
> *When:**         Thursday, February 23rd, 2012*****
>
> *10am – noon*****
>
> *(coffee, muffins and light lunch provided)*****
>
> *Where:**       Three Bridges Clinic** **(Large meeting room, 1stfloor)***
> **
>
> *Please note: This group is for people who have lived with HIV for at
> least 4-5 years, and worked in HIV-related services in Vancouver within
> the last 4-5 years, including 2010 and/or 2011.*****
>
> *Please contact Margreth Tolson if you would like to attend.*****
>
> *(604-708-5320 or email: Margreth.tolson at vch.ca)*****
>
> *Margreth Tolson*****
>
> Leader, Community Engagement****
>
> Vancouver Coastal Health****
>
> 200 - 520 West 6th Avenue****
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> Vancouver, BC  V5Z 4H5****
>
> Tel: 604-708-5320****
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> Fax: 604-874-7518****
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> Email: margreth.tolson at vch.ca****
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