[Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff

Fri Jan 13 19:53:35 PST 2012

Thanks Funke for putting it like that - it is "dry" sex.  I was told by a
professor in Zimbabwe back in 1996 that this was the major problem - men
expecting women to be dry by using herbs etc.  I didn't like to put that
out there because I wasn't sure that it was true but you have confirmed
what I heard and you put it in a easy to understand way.  I cannot believe
that this is not documented!  These are issues that need to be talked about.

Denise

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Funke <funkeilumoka at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes it
>  Is the same here in African migrant populations... There are issues of
> "dry sex" which leaves room for much fluid exchange, polygamy, and other
> tropical STI's. And frankly african sexuality is a totally different kettle
> of fish... Yet to be indepthly documented.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2012-01-13, at 7:11 PM, Denise Becker <dbecker106 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's my understanding that in Africa it is different because of the strain
> - Funke do you know if it is the same here with people who have emigrated
> from Africa?
>
> Denise
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Funke <funkeilumoka at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> AFRICA. Transmission is majority hetero, but note that it is a different
>> strain. I have met woman to man cases.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2012-01-13, at 6:46 PM, Denise Becker <dbecker106 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So.. is there anyone here willing to say that they actually personally
>> know of a straight man getting HIV from a woman through sex?  I was with
>> Lloyd 18 years and he never got it.  I have never met a man who got it from
>> a woman and have never met a woman who passed it on to a man.  Someday I
>> would like to finally hear some statistics.
>>
>> Is it just me?
>>
>> Denise
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Lisa Lagos <llagos at telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Hi Peggy:  It's so scary to hear that the *thought *is out there, let
>>> alone that the man couldn't get a *medical test?!  *
>>> I know it's been common knowledge (whispered knowledge) that it's not as
>>> easy for a man to get hiv from a female as it is for a female to get it
>>> from a male. But lately there's been too much certainty about this in the
>>> air, especially with the addition of medications that keep the viral load
>>> down.   There is still risk (ie. the person not adhereing to meds, persons
>>> with active herpes could pass HIV from one to the other, the person may not
>>> be telling the truth etc. etc.)
>>> But all the endless possibilities aside, since when did doctors stop
>>> erring on the side of caution?
>>> Thanks Peggy.
>>> Lisa L.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Peggy Frank <pegfrank at telus.net>
>>> *To:* viva at lists.resist.ca
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 7:02 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Viva] FW: STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff
>>>
>>> hi - great conversation - sorry to miss it. I will not be on the
>>> conversation as I am heading east then to visit parents - but have an
>>> alarming conversation to share.  While speaking on a radio show with a
>>> friend about HIV and sex a man called in from the San Francisco Bay area
>>> and said that he could not get an HIV test unless he said he was bi.
>>>  Straight men were not considered at risk no matter what their activity.
>>>  this conversation made me wonder - what is the situation for testing in
>>> bc? and then the devil in me thought - if there is no risk for straight men
>>> its time to party. can't envision that without a condom. would love to open
>>> this conversation to know what others have found.
>>>
>>> also recently listening to someone i met at dance class talk about
>>> polyamory and wondered what education this community is accessing regarding
>>> sti's.  just curious...
>>>
>>> Peggy Frank
>>> Victoria,  BC
>>> Canada V8R 1L9
>>>
>>> www.positivelyafrica.org
>>>
>>> She who finds the path - the right path - does so for herself; and when
>>> she goes astray she creates her own loss and pain; and no one who carries a
>>> burden bears another's load.  Taken from - "He who finds the right path
>>> does so for himself; and he who goes astray does so to his own loss; and no
>>> one who carries a burden bears another man's load."  Al-Qur'an 17:15
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 2012-01-12, at 10:23 PM, Kath Webster wrote:
>>>
>>>   The event below is for staff *or* *volunteers* who are HIV positive
>>> and working directly with other HIV positive people in Vancouver.****
>>> It should be a dynamic discussion.  Hope to see some of you there.
>>> Contact Margreth Tolson  to rsvp (see below)****
>>> Cheers, Kath****
>>> ****
>>> ****
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>>> *STOP HIV: Discussion for HIV+ staff*
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>>> ·        Are you a person living with HIV?****
>>> ·        Do you work with people who are HIV+ or at risk for HIV,
>>> helping them to access services for testing, treatment and support in
>>> Vancouver?****
>>> ****
>>> The Vancouver STOP HIV project would like to hear from you.****
>>> ****
>>> *We are holding a discussion group for HIV+ people, who are in paid or
>>> unpaid work supporting people to access services, to hear about your
>>> personal and professional experience with HIV testing, diagnosis and
>>> treatment.*
>>> ****
>>> Your input will help us to improve services for people living with and
>>> at risk for HIV.****
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>>> *When:**         Thursday, February 23rd, 2012*
>>> *10am – noon*
>>> *(coffee, muffins and light lunch provided)*
>>> *Where:**       Three Bridges Clinic** **(Large meeting room, 1stfloor)*
>>> **
>>> *Please note: This group is for people who have lived with HIV for at
>>> least 4-5 years, and worked in HIV-related services in Vancouver within the
>>>  last 4-5 years, including 2010 and/or 2011.*
>>> ****
>>> *Please contact Margreth Tolson if you would like to attend.*
>>> *(604-708-5320 or email: Margreth.tolson at vch.ca)*
>>> ****
>>> ****
>>> *Margreth Tolson*****
>>> Leader, Community Engagement****
>>> Vancouver Coastal Health****
>>> 200 - 520 West 6th Avenue****
>>> Vancouver, BC  V5Z 4H5****
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