[Viva] Fwd: OK here are my thoughts

[Denise Becker]

Dear Ally:

I actually think you have hit the nail on the head with your reply about
what the two organizations are.  Thank you for that.

Denise

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:42 PM, James and Ally Keating <
keatingfamilycircus at telus.net> wrote:

> **
> *I too agree there are things they do well and would never take that from
> them and there are things that we do very well. I also agree we are very
> different organizations. They work with positive women and are "member
> responsive" (however they see that) and we ARE positive women and are
> directed by our members. With that said we do have some common gorund. But
> is this enough....I don't know. Glad to see a dialogue happening. The more
> we question...the clearer we are....Ally*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Denise Becker <dbecker106 at gmail.com>
> *To:* viva <Viva at lists.resist.ca>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:31 PM
> *Subject:* [Viva] Fwd: OK here are my thoughts
>
> I have forwarded my email to Margarite to you, since Ally also wrote.
>
> I have come to recognise that there are some things that PWN does well -
> they are good at gathering information and disseminating it to women
> regarding latest news on HIV Positive issues that are female related.  In
> addition, they have funding for programs and already have a history with
> the HIV community.  These things cannot be ignored.
>
> On the other hand, ViVA has a good, solid base of positive women who are a
> community and who know the facts about being female and living with HIV, it
> incredible pressures and (sometimes) even its rewards, as no other people
> can.  We support each other and I have never felt that in any other
> positive women's organization to the same extent as with ViVA.  I think if
> I had to put it into a few words it would be "we get it!"
>
> Rest assured, I am not trying to join the two organizations but I feel
> that it is important that we recognise that we each have our fortes and I
> want to work on learning and moving forward.
>
> Denise
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Denise Becker <dbecker106 at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: OK here are my thoughts
> To: Margarite Sanchez <margaritesanchez at gmail.com>
>
>
> I think that before I talk to PWN about anything, I would like to get a
> sense of ViVA's AGM.  I didn't ever think I would be speaking for ViVA at
> all but at this time in my life, I feel I have to forgive (not forget) but
> just let go of some things that are holding me back in life.  I definitely
> will not be information sharing with them about Viva but may do on my own
> account since I have left things unsaid for too long about how I feel that
> positive women were treated in my time with them.  That all depends if I do
> choose to go ahead and talk to them.
>
> Denise
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Margarite Sanchez <
> margaritesanchez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Denise,
>> Shell forwarded this to me. Just so you know the topic of PWN didn't come
>> up at the AGM and actually very little over the weekend. Although I did
>> hear more stories of dissatisfaction with them.
>> At this point I feel that if you want to talk to them for yourself, that
>> is fine, if you want to speak representing ViVA then we need to be united
>> and clear about what you are going to say.
>> At this time, I think ViVA not engaging with PWN (ie "information
>> sharing") is more valuable for poz women than engaging. My reason is that
>> by staying clearly separate and critical we are acting as a witness from
>> outside of the agency and I think they need to know that they are not
>> meeting the needs of all their members.
>> That is my feeling right now.
>> To be continued,
>> ox
>> ps we really did miss you.:(
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:08 PM, shelly tognazzini <
>> shetognazzini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> as requested
>>> xo
>>>  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Denise Becker <dbecker106 at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:30 PM
>>> Subject: OK here are my thoughts
>>> To: shelly tognazzini <shetognazzini at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> As everyone knows I have not been happy with Positive Women's Network
>>> and their work with positive women - empowering them.  However, I think we
>>> may have made a valuable point already.  So here is my take on it:
>>>
>>> I can talk to Positive Living - i.e. Marcie and Janet.  I will tell them
>>> frankly we have many women interested in Viva and why.  Then I suggest we
>>> truly forget the past and start over because this is a time when we need to
>>> move on and yet keep our identity.  I think there is a way we can work
>>> together using each other's resources but working closely with Positive
>>> Living BC too and that is key.
>>>
>>> We need them to realize that HIV+ women don't want to be belittled or
>>> told they are not part of the equation when they are the key part of the
>>> equation but maybe there is a little door open right now and we should see
>>> if we can reach through and educate.
>>>
>>> Denise
>>>
>>>
>>
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