[SWAF-Potluck] vaccines and clients

[Margaret Haugen]

Although I strongly disagree with your conclusions, I respect your intent
to promote safe practices.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 12:14 AM Kamile Creative <kamilekapel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The whole reason I started this thread was to advise my fellow sex workers
> to take precautions for your own health when interacting with vaccinated
> clients. I understand that the majority of Canadians believe that the
> vaccine will protect them. Based on hours and hours of research, I strongly
> disagree. However, I appreciate that you are doing what you think to be
> best for yourself and your clients.
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:38 PM Margaret Haugen <
> margaret.haugen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm happy to hear that my fears about people eschewing precautions are
>> largely unwarranted. Sex workers have been on the cutting edge of health
>> and safety practices for a long time. Pleased to see that tradition
>> continuing.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 10:49 PM Kamile Creative <kamilekapel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sharing. I believe the video I shared earlier goes into
>>> detail about how these ingredients may affect the body.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:37 PM Chenoa Johnston <chenoadj at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well the Astra Zeneca and the J& J ones are similar to regular style
>>>> dead virus vaccines and may have a few ingredients you mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> But the Moderna & Pfizer are completely different. They are mRNA
>>>> vaccines, more like RNA genetic therapy.
>>>>
>>>> Pfizer:
>>>>
>>>>    -
>>>>    - mRNA
>>>>    - Lipids (including
>>>>    ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2
>>>>    [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide,
>>>>    1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and cholesterol)
>>>>    - Potassium chloride
>>>>    - Monobasic potassium phosphate
>>>>    - Sodium chloride
>>>>    - Dibasic sodium phosphate dehydrate
>>>>    - Sucrose
>>>>
>>>> Moderna:
>>>>
>>>> *Active ingredient*
>>>>
>>>>    - mRNA (Nucleoside-modified mRNA encoding the viral spike (S)
>>>>    glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2
>>>>
>>>> *Lipids*
>>>>
>>>>    - Polyethylene glycol (PEG) 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol (DMG)
>>>>    - 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine
>>>>    - Cholesterol
>>>>    - SM-102 (Proprietary to Moderna)
>>>>
>>>> *Salts*
>>>>
>>>>    - Thromethamine
>>>>    - Thomethamine hydrocholoride
>>>>    - Acetic acid
>>>>    - Sodium Acetate
>>>>
>>>> *Other*
>>>>
>>>>    - Sucrose
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 14, 2021, at 10:16 PM, Kamile Creative <kamilekapel at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have access to the list of ingredients in the Covid vaccine? I
>>>> imagine they differ a little between the different companies.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:03 PM Chenoa Johnston <chenoadj at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The letter from Dr Hoffe from Lytton is more relevant to this vaccine
>>>>> than the list of ingredients you provided. That list is stuff that is in
>>>>> other vaccines. These ones are quite unique in their ingredients.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2021, at 9:45 PM, Kamile Creative <kamilekapel at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry, the last part got cut off. "Fact check the ingredients at
>>>>> www.cdc.gov
>>>>>
>>>>> And here's just one more thing. An open letter from a doctor in
>>>>> Lytton, BC.
>>>>>
>>>>> OPEN LETTER TO DR. BONNIE HENRY FROM A DOCTOR IN LYTTON, BC REGARDING
>>>>> ADVERSE REACTIONS AFTER V IN HIS COMMUNITY
>>>>> Dr Charles D. Hoffe, BSc, MB, BCh, LMCC
>>>>> Lytton Medical Clinic,
>>>>> P O Box 39, Lytton, BC, V0K 1Z0
>>>>> Tel; 250-455-2202
>>>>> Fax; 250-455-2237
>>>>> Email; hoffe.charles at gmail.com
>>>>> 5 April, 2021
>>>>> OPEN LETTER
>>>>> Dr. Bonnie Henry,
>>>>> British Colombia Provincial Health Officer
>>>>> Ministry of Health,
>>>>> 1515 Blanchard Street,
>>>>> Victoria, BC, V8W 3C9
>>>>> Dear Dr. Henry,
>>>>> The first dose of the a MODERN V has now been administered to some of
>>>>> my patients in the
>>>>> community of Lytton, BC. This began with the First Nations members of
>>>>> our community in midJanuary, 2021. 900 doses have now been administered.
>>>>> I have been quite alarmed at the high rate of serious side-effects
>>>>> from this novel treatment.
>>>>> From this relatively small number of people vaxx so far, we have had:
>>>>> 1. Numerous allergic reactions, with two cases of anaphylaxis.
>>>>> 2. One (presumed) vaccine induced sudden death, (in a 72 year old
>>>>> patient with COPD.
>>>>> This patient complained of being more short of breath continually
>>>>> after receiving the V, and died very suddenly and on day 24, after the
>>>>> vaccine. He had no history of cardiovascular disease).
>>>>> 3. Three people with ongoing and disabling neurological deficits, with
>>>>> associated chronic pain, persisting for more than 10 weeks after their
>>>>> firstV. These neurological deficits include; continual and disabling
>>>>> dizziness, generalised or localised neuromuscular weakness, with or without
>>>>> sensory loss. The chronic pain in these patients is either generalised or
>>>>> regional, with or without headaches.
>>>>> So in short, in our small community of Lytton, BC, we have one person
>>>>> dead, and three people who look as though they will be permanently
>>>>> disabled, following their first dose of the Moderna V. The age of those
>>>>> affected ranges from 38 to 82 years of age.
>>>>> So I have a couple of questions and comments;
>>>>> 1. Are these considered normal and acceptable long term side-effects
>>>>> for gene modification therapy? Judging by medical reports from around the
>>>>> world, our Lytton experience is not unusual.
>>>>> 2. Do you have any idea what disease processes may have been
>>>>> initiated, to be producing
>>>>> these ongoing neurological symptoms?
>>>>> 3. Do you have any suggestions as to how I should treat theV induced
>>>>> neuromuscular weakness, the dizziness, the sensory loss, and the chronic
>>>>> pain syndromes in these people, or should they all be simply referred to a
>>>>> neurologist? I anticipate that many more will follow, as the V is rolled
>>>>> out. This was only phase one, and the first dose.
>>>>> 4. In stark contrast to the deleterious effects of this V in our
>>>>> community, we have not
>>>>> had to give any medical care what-so-ever, to anyone with Covid-19. So
>>>>> in our limited experience, this V is quite clearly more dangerous than CV-
>>>>> 5. I realize that every medical therapy has a risk-benefit ratio, and
>>>>> that serious disease calls for serious medicine. But we now know that the
>>>>> recovery rate of CV is similar to the seasonal flu, in every age category.
>>>>> Furthermore, it is well known that
>>>>> the side effects following the second shot, are significantly worse
>>>>> than the first. So the worst is still to come.
>>>>> 6. It must be emphasized, that these people were not sick people,
>>>>> being treated for some devastating disease. These were previously healthy
>>>>> people, who were offered an experimental therapy, with unknown long-term
>>>>> side-effects, to protect them against an illness that has the same
>>>>> mortality rate as the flu. Sadly, their lives have now been ruined.
>>>>> 7. It is normally considered a fundamental principal of medical
>>>>> ethics, to discontinue a clinical trial if significant harm is demonstrated
>>>>> from the treatment under investigation.
>>>>> 8. So my last question is this; Is it medically ethical to continue
>>>>> this V rollout, in view of the severity of these life altering
>>>>> side-effects, after just the first shot?
>>>>> In Lytton, BC, we have an incidence of 1 in 225 of severe life
>>>>> altering side-effects, from this experimental gene modification therapy.
>>>>> I have also noticed that these V induced side effects are going almost
>>>>> entirely unreported, by those responsible for the V rollout. I am aware
>>>>> that this is often a problem, with V in general, and that delayed
>>>>> side-effects after V, are sometimes labelled as being “coincidences”, as
>>>>> causality is often hard to prove. However, in view of the fact that this is
>>>>> an experimental treatment, with no long-term safety data, I think that
>>>>> perhaps this issue should be addressed too.
>>>>> Furthermore, I have noticed, that the provincial V injury reporting
>>>>> form, which was clearly designed for conventional V, does not even have any
>>>>> place to report V injuries of the nature and severity that we are seeing
>>>>> from this new mRNA therapy.
>>>>> It is now clearly apparent with medical evidence from around the
>>>>> world, that the side-effect profiles of the various gene modification
>>>>> therapies against CV have been vastly understated by their manufacturers,
>>>>> who were eager to prove their safety.
>>>>> Thank you for your attention to this critically urgent public health
>>>>> matter.
>>>>> Yours sincerely,
>>>>> Dr Charles Hoff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:42 PM Kamile Creative <kamilekapel at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whether to get vaccinated is a choice we all have to make now. I
>>>>>> encourage everyone who is considering getting the vaccine to do your
>>>>>> research and not just trust the government and the media about what could
>>>>>> be is a life altering decision for your health.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm glad you are feeling well, Margaret. However, it is still worth
>>>>>> learning more about what's in the vaccine. Side effects are apparently more
>>>>>> common after the second shot. Being suspicious of Big Pharma is not
>>>>>> necessarily synonymous with believing in Qanon, just as having an issue
>>>>>> with Monsanto grown vegetables is not a conspiracy. Interestingly, the
>>>>>> pharmaceutical company, Bayer merged with Monsanto a few years ago.. Some
>>>>>> even say that the vaccine will genetically modify your body just as
>>>>>> Monsanto has genetically modified vegetables.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Please watch this documentary to hear from the many scientists and
>>>>>> doctors who are warning people around the world about the dangers of the
>>>>>> vaccine:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.bitchute.com/video/jFDvzMgKBQsA/?fbclid=IwAR0ko-qdifxAs4oIb9iGo_gn2LWuXGmxrqTF0ZUnIzY6VQxQ5yEq0Fv4xmw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This letter I copied below is also worth considering. It's good to be
>>>>>> aware of the ingredients that are in vaccines.
>>>>>> “I gathered all vaccine ingredients into a list and contacted Poison
>>>>>> Control. After intros and such, and asking to speak with someone tenured
>>>>>> and knowledgeable, this is the gist of that conversation.
>>>>>> Me: My question to you is how are these ingredients categorized? As
>>>>>> benign or poison? (I ran a few ingredients, formaldehyde, Tween 80,
>>>>>> mercury, aluminum, phenoxyethanol, potassium phosphate, sodium phosphate,
>>>>>> sorbitol, etc.)
>>>>>> He: Well, that's quite a list... But I'd have to easily say that
>>>>>> they're all toxic to humans... Used in fertilizers... Pesticides... To stop
>>>>>> the heart... To preserve a dead body... They're registered with us in
>>>>>> different categories, but pretty much poisons. Why?
>>>>>> Me: If I were deliberately to feed or inject my child with these
>>>>>> ingredients often, as a schedule, obviously I'd put my daughter in harm's
>>>>>> way... But what would legally happen to me?
>>>>>> He: Odd question... But you'd likely be charged with criminal
>>>>>> negligence... perhaps with intent to kill... and of course child abuse...
>>>>>> Your child would be taken away from you... Do you know of someone's who is
>>>>>> doing this to their child? This is criminal...
>>>>>> Me: An industry... These are the ingredients used in vaccines... With
>>>>>> binding agents to make sure the body won't flush these out... To keep the
>>>>>> antibody levels up indefinitely...
>>>>>> He: WHAT?!
>>>>>> Your conclusion?
>>>>>> The man was beside himself. He asked if I would email him all this
>>>>>> information. He wanted to share it with his adult kids who are parents. He
>>>>>> was horrified and felt awful he didn't know... his kids are vaccinated and
>>>>>> they have health issues...”
>>>>>> ~ By Iris Figueroa [image: 🍃][image: ♥️][image: 🍃]
>>>>>> [image: ✅]INGREDIENTS TO VACCINES - You CANNOT make an educated
>>>>>> decision without being educated.
>>>>>> Here are just SOME vaccine ingredients.
>>>>>> These are being INJECTED into your kids;
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Formaldehyde/Formalin - Highly toxic systematic poison
>>>>>> and carcinogen.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Betapropiolactone - Toxic chemical and carcinogen. May
>>>>>> cause death/permanant injury after very short exposure to small quantities.
>>>>>> Corrosive chemical.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Hexadecyltrimethylammonium bromide - May cause damage to
>>>>>> the liver, cardiovascular system, and central nervous system. May cause
>>>>>> reproductive effects and birth defects.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, and aluminum
>>>>>> salts - Neurotoxin. Carries risk for long term brain inflammation/swelling,
>>>>>> neurological disorders, autoimmune disease, Alzheimer's, dementia, and
>>>>>> autism. It penetrates the brain where it persists indefinitely.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Thimerosal (mercury) - Neurotoxin. Induces cellular
>>>>>> damage, reduces oxidation-reduction activity, cellular degeneration, and
>>>>>> cell death. Linked to neurological disorders, Alzheimer's, dementia, and
>>>>>> autism.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Polysorbate 80 & 20 - Trespasses the Blood-Brain Barrier
>>>>>> and carries with it aluminum, thimerosal, and viruses; allowing it to enter
>>>>>> the brain.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Glutaraldehyde - Toxic chemical used as a disinfectant
>>>>>> for heat sensitive medical equipment.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Fetal Bovine Serum - Harvested from bovine (cow) fetuses
>>>>>> taken from pregnant cows before slaughter.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Human Diploid Fibroblast Cells - aborted fetal cells.
>>>>>> Foreign DNA has the ability to interact with our own.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]African Green Monkey Kidney Cells - Can carry the SV-40
>>>>>> cancer-causing virus that has already tainted about 30 million Americans.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Acetone - Can cause kidney, liver, and nerve damage.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]E.Coli - Yes, you read that right.
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]DNA from porcine (pig) Circovirus type-1
>>>>>> [image: ◾️]Human embryonic lung cell cultures (from aborted fetuses)
>>>>>> [image: ✳️]You can view all of these ingredients on the CDCs
>>>>>> website. I encourage everyone to do their own research. Look up the MSDS on
>>>>>> these chemicals. Read the thousands of peer reviewed studies that have
>>>>>> evaluated the biological consequences these chemicals can have on the body,
>>>>>> especially when being injected.
>>>>>> [image: ✳️]Fact check vaccine ingredients here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:25 PM Chenoa Johnston <chenoadj at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Rense has been around a lot longer than Q Anon.) If anything the
>>>>>>> article posted would cause us to take more precautions not less.  So I’m
>>>>>>> not sure why you seem to be suggesting a disregard for the health of
>>>>>>> clients?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I too have taken many precautions pre and post covid...  I find the
>>>>>>> awareness and kindness with clients to be amazing.  And FYI pretty much all
>>>>>>> my regular clients over 60 stopped coming... and I only see 3-4/week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The biggest concern we might have is the mutations, which can be
>>>>>>> spread by vaccinated or non vaccinated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’d rather see support for each other, and encourage as much
>>>>>>> informed consent as possible...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Margaret Haugen <
>>>>>>> margaret.haugen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's deeply disturbing to me to see that Q-anon and related
>>>>>>> conspiracy theories are infiltrating our community. There is no plan to
>>>>>>> exterminate 90 percent of the population. Why would any shady person in
>>>>>>> power want to do away with their labor force? Honestly, I'm afraid that
>>>>>>> people getting exposed to these conspiracy theories will avoid taking
>>>>>>> precautions to protect themselves and their clients from COVID. A close
>>>>>>> friend of mine who has ties to community in New York has lost over 50
>>>>>>> friends to this pandemic. Getting vaccinated or not is a personal choice,
>>>>>>> but we have to remember that this virus is no joke and do what we can to
>>>>>>> reduce risk for ourselves and others.
>>>>>>>  I got my first shot a month ago. If I'm still alive in six months
>>>>>>> can we just consider this conspiracy theory debunked?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 10:30 AM Trina Ricketts <
>>>>>>> trina.rosecat at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Kamile! I have been concerned about this as well, but didn't
>>>>>>>> take precautions soon enough and I've already been exposed to several
>>>>>>>> vaccinated clients during hand release. I truly hope this article is not
>>>>>>>> true. But it wouldn't surprise me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trina
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:04 AM Kamile Creative <
>>>>>>>> kamilekapel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You may be for or against the Covid vaccine. If you are wary of
>>>>>>>>> them, you may share my concern about whether to take extra precautions when
>>>>>>>>> interacting with vaccinated clients. I read this information this morning
>>>>>>>>> and felt a moral obligation to share it with others in our industry. The
>>>>>>>>> vaccines are experimental so we don't really know yet what the results will
>>>>>>>>> be. HIV protocol is recommended. That is, use gloves for hand releases with
>>>>>>>>> vaccinated clients and refrain from saliva or sexual fluid exchange. Asking
>>>>>>>>> clients if they are vaccinated can feel awkward but it's  better to be safe
>>>>>>>>> than sorry, imho.
>>>>>>>>> "The fatal damage caused to the brain is transmissible from a
>>>>>>>>> vaccinated, infected person to an unvaccinated healthy person. Therefore,
>>>>>>>>> there is no need to vaccinate the entire population. The vaccinated people
>>>>>>>>> will quickly spread the weaponized prions to the unvaccinated through
>>>>>>>>> bodily fluids, from saliva to sexual intercourse."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Quoted from the following article:
>>>>>>>>> https://rense.com/general96/are-weaponized-prions-the-secret-genocidal-Component-in-covid-19-vaccines.php?fbclid=IwAR1ymnbz6x7hAJdJNd2nBhkYbbYiOVJ5t8QMDCKsEvXgCRjRhkhd8YjYz14
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