[SWAF-Potluck] Fwd: retraining programs for sex workers?

Thu Feb 19 09:43:31 PST 2015

our cooperative and union development activities tackled all of these challenges. 
www.wccsip.ca
the idea was to create alternative income sources so people could try to exit out. we developed a consulting cooperative with its own resource package and presentation for people to use and adapt to any presentation they wanted to deliver. it was hoped we could engage the greater public, educate them and get paid for doing it.
we also had proposed a coop brothel. in india the workers can get "micro'loans" and buy their brothel room. they could even buy more than one room and rent them out to other workers. this was a sort of retirement plan as the rooms generate income and if a greater sum of money was required, the workers could sell a room.
there was also a cooperatively run strip club/ venue for artistic events - we had hoped there would be a kitchen, serving jobs and of course the accounting end of a business. this way we could fundraise or put on a show and profit not only from the entrance fees but from sales of drinks and food as well.
we tried to find funding to develop these plans but it never came through to fruition except the consulting cooperative work.
our trade secrets occupational health and safety training development which came out of our union development stuff discovered ways sex workers can build their own pensions, have extended medical and build for their futures.
www.tradesecretsguide.blogspot.com
paying taxes and building your credit can help as well. this way you can access a loan for moving into another line of work or to develop a dream.
i will also say that having opened my own business , a butcher shop, and run it for 3 years, its not easy but its getting easier. it was completely worthwhile and while i am not "exited" and still work as a sex workers everyday, there will be a day when i don't have to if i don't want to. i would recommend a small business to anyone thinking of leaving sex work or trying to plan for their futures. after all we're all our own bosses anyway so its a natural fit!!
vancity bank have a great loans plan for small business start up. 
https://www.vancity.com/BusinessBanking/Financing/Loans/SmallBusinessAndStartup/?xcid=bus_megamenu_smallbus
forget the bog banks, they were completely rude and for the most part no longer finance "new" businesses. credit unions are cooperatives and are more inclined to support new businesses.
hope thats a little helpful, if any one has any questions please feel free to ask.
love susie

> From: a.sorfleet at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:44:03 -0800
> To: kamilekapel at gmail.com
> CC: swaf-potluck at lists.resist.ca
> Subject: Re: [SWAF-Potluck] Fwd:  retraining programs for sex workers?
> 
> And what about teaching? I think there are several people on this list who teach tantric healing, therapeutic touch etc. 
> 
> I have considered finding someone to teach me this approach. I have always encorporated massage in my sex practice because its a way to relax and get naked. Get over the nervousness many clients often feel. I was taught some Swedish technique when i used to work in a Vancouver massage parlour. 
> 
> A.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 18, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Kamile Kapel <kamilekapel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Sure, I'd be up for that, Chenoa.  I'm not interested in running a massage parlour, Andy. I'm interested in doing something new, utilizing my other talents which I haven't promoted as much as I should because I've been so comfortable.  Everything makes so little money compared to sex work. But money isn't everything, especially when you spend it as quickly as you earn it. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Chenoa Johnston <chenoadj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> hey,
> >> 
> >> I suggest a few of us get together and create our own 'counseling out'
> >> of sex work group, where we share info on free resources, discuss our
> >> particular situations and transition/retirement needs, and record our
> >> meetings for a realistic, respectful, positive transition process.
> >> Maybe include some peer counseling processes.  I have a few friends
> >> who have not really moved to a financially successful new life and
> >> continue to struggle financially years later... which I do not want to
> >> do.  I feel I am close to retirement, but I do not want to deal with
> >> any organization that treats me like a victim when I hold none of that
> >> archetype energy in me.
> >> 
> >> Anyone interested can contact me, Chenoa at chenoadj at gmail.com
> >> 
> >> xxoo Chenoa
> >> 
> >>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Kamile Kapel <kamilekapel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Thanks for the replies, everyone.  I was hoping there would be something
> >>> specific for sex workers. In the meantime, however, I have found lots of
> >>> help for entrepreneurs which some of you may be interested  have a look at
> >>> www.smallbusinessbc.ca.
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
> >>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Holly <hollyinvancouver at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I'm friends with people who work at PEERS in Victoria, and my understanding
> >>> is that the money is available in the form of grants. Organizations can
> >>> apply for the grants, but not individuals. I hope PEERS gets one, since they
> >>> have several ideas for helping people transition, but my hopes aren't high
> >>> that they will get money. I know a lot of church organizations are applying
> >>> for the grants. Sigh.
> >>> 
> >>> Holly
> >>> 
> >>> On Wednesday, 18 February 2015, annasmithmar . <annasmithmar at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Annies take on this
> >>>> 
> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>> From: "annasmithmar ." <annasmithmar at gmail.com>
> >>>> Date: Feb 18, 2015 10:39 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [SWAF-Potluck] retraining programs for sex workers?
> >>>> To: "Kamile Kapel" <kamilekapel at gmail.com>
> >>>> Cc:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi Kamile,
> >>>> 
> >>>> That is a very good question.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I had heart surgery two years ago and when I recently tried to return to
> >>>> the business I found it too stressful to do on my own. I have been doing
> >>>> entry level temp labour work...
> >>>> I would be very interested to hear about funds or training avaliable.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I am also concerned that funding for retraining and education should be
> >>>> directed or selected by the individual sex worker according to her own
> >>>> choices needs and abilities and also programmes acknowledge skills aquire by
> >>>> or even natural to sex workers such as empathy, tact, social skills,
> >>>> etiquette, telephone skills. There also needs to be an understanding that
> >>>> many sex workers are educated in other unrelated professions.  They may have
> >>>> stopped an earlier career or dropped out of college, had children ...
> >>>> 
> >>>> I tried an exit program once and only lasted for one day there because the
> >>>> programe was too general and assumed that I had no education or skills at
> >>>> all and had emotional problems.  I have also tried programs meant for
> >>>> disabled people or for people finding difficulty getting employment and for
> >>>> me they were too long, involving silly aptitude tests which at my age, were
> >>>> quite useless and humiliating, telling me things I already know.
> >>>> 
> >>>> For example, I am a published writer, who also has a lot of unfinished
> >>>> work. All I really would  like is access to a typing class, a place nearby
> >>>> with Internet and a bit of tech support.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I do not want some eight to ten month class with free bus tickets, crappy
> >>>> sandwiches and hours of staring at self esteem flip charts orchestrated by
> >>>> somebody who is getting paid while I am not. That is very bad for the self
> >>>> esteem .
> >>>> 
> >>>> OK.  That's my rant. If anyone has any useful info about decent jobs or
> >>>> useful real education, free industrial first aid classes without self esteem
> >>>> pandering,  let me know !
> >>>> 
> >>>> Annie
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Feb 18, 2015 9:37 AM, "Kamile Kapel" <kamilekapel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Does anyone know if the monies from the new law are going towards any
> >>>>> training or financial support for sex workers wanting to transition?  I hurt
> >>>>> my back recently and have been off work and am feeling too vulnerable to
> >>>>> interact with clients.  It feels like an exciting time to explore new career
> >>>>> opportunities, when I actually have to make money doing what I really want
> >>>>> to do!  (making videos)
> >>>>> 
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