[SWAF-Potluck] Naughty School Boy

Andrew Sorfleet a.sorfleet at gmail.com
Sun Apr 26 12:01:26 PDT 2015 

I'm thinking for example, if there wad evidence that the advertising law was violating our freedom of expression or something. 😊

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> On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Andrew Sorfleet <a.sorfleet at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Kerry,
> 
> So Pivot wants to challenge all new laws at once, but that doesn't mean that individuals or groups can't challenge small specific parts of the law. Right? As long as its not frivolous and vexatious. 😀
> 
> That is how we began the road to striking down the last laws. The soliciting law was restricted twice by the Supreme Court before the government finally enacted the new "communicating" law in 1986 i think.
> 
> I think the soliciting law was first challenged by a client.
> 
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>> On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Kerry Porth <kerrylporth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You are correct Andrew. You can read about the successful court challenge to the rules regarding who gets public interest standing here:
>> http://www.pivotlegal.org/scc_decision_in_swuav_a_triumph_for_access_to_justice
>> 
>> The Pivot challenge to prostitution laws was launched prior to the Bedford case but got hung up on the issue of standing.  Once that issue was decided by the Supreme Court, the Bedford case was already well underway so litigation was put on hold.  
>> 
>> Pivot will be launching a challenge to the new laws but is in the earliest stages of mapping out a strategy as they will challenge the laws as a scheme rather than challenging individual provisions under Bill C-36.  For a challenge to be successful, much evidence of the impact of the news laws will have to be gathered and they simply haven't been in force and effect long enough for the evidence to be robust enough. Challenges can be thrown out as "frivolous and vexatious" if the evidence isn't there. In other words, it is far too early to launch a challenge.
>> 
>> And just to be clear, Pivot did not launch a second challenge but represented SWUAV and PACE Society and intervened in the final appeal of the Bedford case.  You can learn more about that in this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKAVR75vMU
>> 
>> In solidarity,
>> 
>> Kerry
>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Andrew Sorfleet <a.sorfleet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kerry please correct me if i am wrong. You do not have to be charged to launch a court challenge. Thanks to the Supreme Court Kiesselbach decision, a member of the public can launch a court challenge for the public good. Thanks to Sheri K. who was denied standing because although she had 25+ years in the business she was not currently at risk of being arrested, having retired from the business. 
>>> 
>>> Pivot launched the 2nd court challenge coupled in the bedford case, on behalf of Sex Workers United Against Violence from the DTES. 
>>> 
>>> In other words, an association of sex workers, with the help of lawyers like Pivot, could launch a court challenge any time now, if there are grounds to question the laws constitutionality. 
>>> 
>>> Any takers? <emoji_u1f600.png>
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2015, at 1:28 AM, Chenoa Johnston <chenoadj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Jules,
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder how old that post is?  The debates / testimony speeches before the Senate were last summer with only a few extra in the fall.  I was on the list to go in October before the Bill's final passing.  It did pass and the Senate did not hear me speak, nor many others from across Canada who were ready to speak! The Senate denied our requests and passed the Bill anyway.  I sent a long and detailed letter which was available for all Senators to read. Any letter sent with the request to speak had to be circulated and also posted on the Senate's website. 
>>>> 
>>>> As the Bill had passed the only ways to overturn it are 
>>>> 
>>>> 1) a new government is voted in and they overturn it
>>>> 
>>>> 2) someone is charged and they decide to make the case a Charter of Rights Challenge and go all the way to the Supreme Court. ( which can take 5-10 years)
>>>>  
>>>> Vancouver is in favor of real safety issues of sex workers and we are fortunate here that law enforcement is mostly on our side.
>>>> 
>>>> However any law enforcement agency can choose to enforce the laws as they interpret them at any time - and leave it up to the prosecutors and courts to hash it out.
>>>> 
>>>> sad sad stuff - rights and freedoms stampled!
>>>> 
>>>> much love, Chenoa
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Jules Woods <julesinthewoods at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Happy Sunny Saturday, lovelies. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had a nasty caller this morning, who told me to check out PERB.ca and see my reviews. So I did, and found nothing on me, but this posting instead, which I thought I'd forward. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> There seems to be a groundswell happening with Bill C-36 and participating like this is a great way to add your voice to the critical mass we need to make change. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Write a letter, with your positive experiences and suggestions to government on how to improve your life. Worth a try, eh?) 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Enjoy your day! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Love Lisa
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> the first ever HAPPY HOOKER movement ...PLEASE participate!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear ladies;
>>>>> 
>>>>> It has become apparent that the government of Canada has not heard from a rather large sector of the adult industry: The rights of happy, voluntary, consensual sex worker who is enjoying or has enjoyed the financial, social, & liberating benefits of the lucrative trade of services for money.**
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are gathering letters from workers to send to the Senate before it debates Bill C-36. It's important this side be heard because it separates the experience of choosing high end sex work versus those stuck in the survival sex trade (which is often caused by social deprivations such as poverty, mental health, addiction; whereas high-end  sex work is generally a free-will choice by empowered women choosing sex work as a platform to other life goals).
>>>>> 
>>>>> **We all can agree that the survival sex trade is awful and these contributing issues must be addressed. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, more information & insight regarding consensual adults exchanging sex for money is needed ASAP! As this sector of the industry requires a different set of laws/regulation/legalization. We need your help to get this important message heard!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is what is needed in your letter:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - today's date
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Madames/Sirs;
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Your first name, your business title (independent escort, exotic dancer, massage attendant, etc). **
>>>>> - how you got into the industry
>>>>> - why you decide on sex work
>>>>> - what you enjoy about your job
>>>>> - any accomplishments you have achieved due to the financial benefits of sex work
>>>>> - other positive gains you feel you enjoy in this line of work
>>>>> - some comments about what customers are like
>>>>> - one well thought-out suggestion about what the government can do to improve your experience as a sex worker**
>>>>> - if you have retired from the business, describe your success & exit strategy.**
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> 
>>>>> - sign with your real 1st name ideally. It will come across with much more integrity than a stage name. If you do not feel comfortable, sign however you wish **
>>>>> 
>>>>> This letter should be clear, concise, and simple, one page max! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Email to me at MissJessicaLeeSP at gmail.com or to Emily at emily at musemassagespa.com do it today if you can!! We will print and deliver them. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pass this on to as many workers as you can!**
>>>>> Let's start the 1st ever Happy Hooker Movement. Thank you!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Andrew Sorfleet <a.sorfleet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> My latest post on The Naked Truth for #Facesofprostitution Twitter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.nakedtruth.ca/2015/04/a-date-with-naughty-school-boy.html?m=1
>>>>>> 
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