[SWAF-Potluck] Removal

Fri Jun 20 11:13:08 PDT 2014

Actually, that's not how I remember it being resolved. This message is
Ki's response from December 12, 2013. We had a lovely potluck and
discussed the political issues more at Chenoa's just after that.

"Hi Niseema and Andi,

There is no easy way to create a duel list - one the actual potlucks
and one for the news/political stuff. I'd have to create a separate
list and figure out who wanted to be on which list. I'm not into
creating more work for myself.

The news and political stuff on this list is low volume imo. It tends
to come in waves. I often find it interesting and relevant, and I when
I don't, hitting the delete button is an easy option.

Given that the list is pretty much local to the Vancouver region, a
reasonable request would be to only post news/political stuff that is
relevant locally. There are other sex worker lists which have a much
more news/political and global focus.

Andi, perhaps, you could invite members on this list to join those
other lists which you are active on?

There is an option to get these emails in once a week digest format if
you want to get less emails. Just follow the link at the bottom of
this and every listserv email then about half way down the page you
will see an option to subscribe to a digest.

Hope that helps.
Hugs
Ki"

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Miss Fiona Lux <lustnsuch at gmail.com> wrote:
> What frustrates me the most is that I was around for a conversation last
> year when we decided collectively that the potluck list would stay potluck
> related and those who wanted the more political details would go on a
> seperate list, ie, Triple X. I did not sign up for the Triple X list
> specifically for this reason. Perhaps a few emails about rentals or
> blacklist info would be included for the potluck list, but it wouldn't be
> the main focus of the mailing list.
> Multiple clippings a day of variations of the same news stories are spammy
> in my opinion and definitely not what I signed up for. I travel a ton and
> often use my phone and ipad yes, but even still. I want to know when actual
> potluck things are happening... So if I filter all these emails to trash, I
> still miss out on potluck events.
> The first time I mentioned it, I felt disregarded on the matter and things
> went on as normal... And then in the past few weeks it just went turbo
> action spam. Too much for me.
>
> On Jun 16, 2014 9:29 AM, "Andy Sorfleet" <a.sorfleet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have given both Lux's and Aanya's concerns some thought. As someone
>> who has gotten many many emails every day, I didn't really understand
>> what was so annoying. But I just realized. I am a desktop person. All
>> my email (work and personal) I do on my computer. If I get emails I
>> don't want I simply filter them to the trash, or a mailbox I will read
>> later.
>>
>> I noticed that Aanya's message came from her iphone. I am not an
>> iphone person, so I did not realize that if you are notified every
>> time you receive an email on your phone. And, you use your phone for
>> work. And you get three messages in a row from me which are clippings
>> you either have already seen or don't care too. I'd be annoyed too.
>>
>> I understand that the original purpose for this email list was to
>> organize socially. I first met Ki in 2011 at City Hall, at a council
>> meeting dealing with the sex trade. He brought a large duffle bag of
>> his sheets and towels, with a lovely performance planned. :^) The
>> meeting ran so long that Ki eventually had to bail because he had a
>> prior family commitment. We sat together on the bench, next to Jamie
>> Lee Hamilton, and had lots of time to get to know each other a bit.
>>
>> At that time, Ki was interested in inviting more politically active
>> people onto the list, and people like me and Will and Kerry Porth and
>> Raven Bowen and many others were invited to potlucks even though many
>> of us were not longer involved in the erotic arts industry.
>>
>> If a listserv facilitates deep discussion, it can sometimes generate
>> more than 10 emails a day. This kind of flurry of activity is usually
>> thought to be a sign of the the success of the listserv.
>>
>> For me this list is an important way to get important messages to 75
>> people involved in this industry many of whom I cannot reach any other
>> way. I apologize to those of you who I have annoyed.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Andy Sorfleet
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Aanyamassage <aanyamassage at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I think we definitely should be limiting our group emails to maximum one
>> > each per day. Perhaps you could save a bunch of links and mail them all at
>> > once at the end of each day, as necessary. It is a bit overwhelming having
>> > 3-5 emails per day somedays. Too much information is sometimes a bad thing.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Jun 10, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Andy Sorfleet <a.sorfleet at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Miss Lux,
>> >>
>> >> At the bottom of every SWAF listserv email there is a link:
>> >> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swaf-potluck
>> >>
>> >> At the bottom of the webpage this link takes you to, is the option to
>> >> unsubscribe yourself.
>> >>
>> >> I also notice that it looks like anyone could also subscribe
>> >> themselves from this page. The list administrator (Ki) might want to
>> >> if its possible to join the list only if the administrator subscribes
>> >> you.
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >> Andy
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Miss Fiona Lux <lustnsuch at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Hi guys,
>> >>> I really just want to hear about potluck related stuff... Please
>> >>> remove me
>> >>> from this list if it's not going to stick to that. I thought maybe the
>> >>> triple x mailing list would be more political/sex work related stuff
>> >>> which
>> >>> is why I'm not on that list.  It's a bit frustrating having my inbox
>> >>> spammed
>> >>> with duplicate articles that have nothing to do with the original
>> >>> intention
>> >>> of the potluck mailing list.  I realize this is important stuff that's
>> >>> happening, no argument... I'd just prefer the potluck list to stay
>> >>> potluck
>> >>> related... Or remove my email address.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "The Body is an instrument which only gives off music when it is used
>> >>> as a
>> >>> body. Always an orchestra, and just as music traverses walls, so
>> >>> sensuality
>> >>> traverses the body and reaches up to ecstasy." - Anais Nin
>> >>>
>> >>> WWW.SENSUALMISSLUX.COM
>> >>> 778-230-2229
>> >>> (Text Only Please)
>> >>>
>> >>>
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