[SWAF-Potluck] CL

Wed Dec 31 18:14:05 PST 2014

I really think the only people who have a vested interest in flagging the
ads are competitors, such as massage parlours. Cell phones don't have IP's
so there is really no way to track who is flagging what if it's from a
mobile device or community IP like the library or a Starbucks. When I was
being harrassed last Christmas and early this year, it just took me and 2
other people flagging to remove the ad. Parlours probably have their
receptionist do this as part of their job. They are by far the hardest hit
by the new laws, by having a static public location that paranoid clients
won't want to enter. Another idea is the put all the info on your ad
picture, which you can do easily with a collage making app. That way you
are completely Unsearchable. Another thing I do is link my ad to different
pages on my website just in case someone has set up an RSS feed for my
website address as a keyword. Another thing I mentioned before is to
un-link your website by removing the http:// and it makes your ad post
quicker if you have been flagged over and over: CL will delay your ads by
up to 2hrs if your ads are flagged over and over.

On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Ki <ottercatki at yahoo.ca> wrote:

>  LOL I had this paranoid vision of a bunch of abolitionists in the
> basement of their church with tea, cookies and laptops doing the world a
> great service and buying their way into eternal heavenly bliss by flagging
> those nasty whore's ads. Who knows. Might be happening.
>
> But they probably have better things to do and can't really sustain that
> effort. It was a real bitch for me to get my ads to stay up earlier this
> month. That storm has passed and now I seem to be getting them to stick. I
> was persistent. Apparently the flaggers are not. Again some tips:
>
> - have at least 3 accounts and only post from each account once per day
> - if an account gets multiple flagged postings on it let it cool off for a
> couple of days and definitely switch up your ad content
> - change up the ad content regularly - even just a bit
> - if a particular ad is not getting flagged, then instead of renewing it,
> just copy and paste the content (you can use ctrl-u to see the code so you
> can actually cut and paste the html and save yourself the formatting
> hassle) and create a whole new ad with a slightly different title. The more
> ads that are "posted new" vs "renewed" the more you will show up on the
> maps and in the lists of ads so the greater the chance of someone finding
> you.
> - change the postal code and the location on the map slightly. Again it
> will give you an advantage on people using map search.
> - keep it short
> - break up keys words like tantric or other unusual words like this
> tan~tric
> - if you are going to post links to your site, just photoshop them onto
> your photos so they're not searchable
> - don't post your name/phone number in the ad directly - use the hidden
> fields that CL provides
> - try to see it as a game and don't take it too personally
> - use backpage and leolist as well
>
> *Illegitimi non carborundum*
>
> xx
> Ki
>
>
>
>
> On 2014-12-21 4:11 PM, Kerry Porth wrote:
>
> That would be awesome if you could do that Susie!  When I said I don't
> know anything about CL, I meant it ... I've rarely looked at it and don't
> understand all the different sections, abbreviations etc.  You've got more
> experience and would know what to say better than I could.  They must, at
> least, be able to tell if it is a single ip address doing all the flagging.
>
>
>  I don't know ... perhaps this goes on all the time (I certainly had a
> few fake reviews posted about me in the past) but it seems to me that this
> would be an easy tactic to try to disrupt sex worker's work at this time.
>
>  K
>
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 3:59 PM, susan davis <susan.1968 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','susan.1968 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>>  i did call them a few times in attempts to fight the removal of the
>> erotic services section and offered our support in their fight to keep that
>> section separate from massage.
>>
>>  its a not for profit who run craigslist and its global so they have no
>> real way to check things. when we have asked for help in the help forums in
>> the past we get called all kinds of names by other posters mocking us for
>> being "whores" etc....
>>
>>  in a case like this though we may be able to appeal to them to check
>> for us and see if its one person or a group of people flagging....worth
>> pursuing kerry for sure...should i call or do you want to?
>>
>>  love susie
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:40:14 -0800
>> From: kerrylporth at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kerrylporth at gmail.com');>
>> To: kamilekapel at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kamilekapel at gmail.com');>
>> CC: swaf-potluck at lists.resist.ca
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','swaf-potluck at lists.resist.ca');>
>> Subject: Re: [SWAF-Potluck] CL
>>
>>   Hi everyone,
>>
>>  I really don't know much about CL as I never advertised there so, I'm
>> wondering whether anyone knows whether they do any analysis of flagging?
>> Like, do they pay attention to whether ads are being flagged by users who
>> have ads in the same category?  Whether it's one individual flagging a
>> whole bunch of ads?  Curious because this would be a pretty easy tactic for
>> the abolitionists to employ.  Does anyone know whether CL looks at stuff
>> like this?
>>
>>  Kerry
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Kamile Kapel <kamilekapel at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kamilekapel at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> I just want to say that I've had no problems at all, advertising only on
>> backpage.  Business has been good.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Aanya Mas-sage <aanyamassage at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanyamassage at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all!
>>
>>  Re: Craigslist:
>>
>>  Last year I had a tons of problems on CL and I found that by not using
>> keywords or by coding keywords with a _ (underscore) attached to th keyword
>> stopped my competitors from finding me and flagging me so easily. I still
>> get flagged every day but with 3 accounts on rotate it's easy to repost and
>> repost. If your ad is getting flagged a lot they will put a 2 hour or more
>> hold on your ad. Also, not posting a link in your ad, and just putting www
>> instead of http (makes it a hyperlink) helps speed the posting process up.
>> Change your photos so your competitors can't find you. It's more than
>> likely massage parlours flagging you as they are by far hardest hit by the
>> new laws. They are able to flag and delete from multiple mobile phones and
>> take you down single handedly. Don't fret, it's always worse around
>> Christmas. Just keep experimenting with different ads. I highly recommend
>> LeoList and Backpage as alternatives. Make sure your BP ad is sponsored as
>> I have had many of my ads flagged there as well.
>>
>>  I am very sorry to hear people are having police called on them, that
>> is just awful! What tha fuck is wrong with people!!
>>
>>  Aanya
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 19, 2014, Mary Miriam Magdalena <
>> ohmymagdalena at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ohmymagdalena at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>  And there are so many other ads still on there, and they are WAY more
>> suggestive, pornographic, and erotic than mine!!
>>  Where else are people advertising other than CL and BP?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Mary Miriam Magdalena <
>> ohmymagdalena at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Now CL is not letting me post at all, saying I've reached my limit for
>> this account! And I haven't even posted yet today!
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Chenoa <chenoadj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Craigslist would do good to take the same approach now in Canada that
>> they have in the US- which is payment with credit card for therapeutic
>> section ads.
>>
>>  That would reduce the misuse and also the flagging and automatic
>> deleting without any actual review of the ad.
>>
>>  Thanks for the info/update Susie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-12-18, at 22:36, susan davis <susan.1968 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   ok, so i am being overwhelmed with calls about this...its happening to
>> everyone....
>>
>>  also....sorry to report....
>>
>>  malicious police complaints -  merry xmas - with uniformed officers
>> attending the door and trying to illegally enter....they have no warrant
>> and are responding to 911 calls...i have received 2 complaints like like
>> that so far....
>>
>>  the craigslist thing is ongoing a couple of weeks...right?
>>
>>  backpage has been working for me so far...ugh...just what we need i the
>> wake of client confusion and loss of income...also other complaints of
>> people pretending to be police and threatening
>>
>>  i will phone the vpd and report this "malfunction" hopefully before it
>> gets to carried away.
>>
>>  sorry, i am a bit upset having just received these reports....
>>
>>  i heard also that the feminazi crew were plotting at their dec. 6th
>> event - ways they could force the vpd to enforce the new law....one of
>> their ilk always comes and speaks against me at the police board...the
>> asian women for ending prostitution or something? she used to rail on about
>> craigslist ....she/they know all about our ways....
>>
>>  at first i was unsure they would stoop so low...but when i realized it
>> was all of us...the extent of their hatred/action....against us...
>>
>>  there maybe no way to prove its them....maybe its not them....who
>> fricken knows....
>>
>> i had hoped we could prevent the fallout from the new law....but so
>> far...its been a bit crazy
>>
>> love you all, come by for a pint, merry holidays and remember
>>
>>  they jus' sinkin' they own ship bitches...'
>>
>>  its illegal to make malicious complaints and to harass people on the
>> internet. wasting police resources is a serious offence. once we point
>> these things out...(money/resources/undermining of trust) whomever is
>> responsible will be found and held responsible.
>>
>>  that's what is so cool about a public policy, its a starting point from
>> where we can complain.
>>
>>  i think, and hope people agree...we should let them try to deal with
>> the situation and defend themselves to us in a respectful way. its been a
>> culture of "crazy" for 30 years...longer....
>>
>>  i think if we give them a chance they will sort out who is responsible
>> and make them stop.
>>
>>  craigslist is another story...i spoke to someone there once...they are
>> a non profit...lol anyway, they are based in the usa where prostitution is
>> illegal and so are bound by us law, or so they said. thus the reason they
>> removed the erotic services section originally,under pressure from
>> feminazis...
>>
>>  i really hope its not them....
>>
>>  i will report back any info i can about my conversation with police.
>>
>>  XXXO susie
>>  ------------------------------
>> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:37:55 -0800
>> From: ohmymagdalena at gmail.com
>> To: swaf-potluck at lists.resist.ca
>> Subject: [SWAF-Potluck] CL
>>
>>   Howdy folks,
>>
>> Anyone else getting ALL their adds flagged and removed on CL these days?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> How annoying!!
>>
>>  Sorry to have missed you all at the last potluck.
>>
>> Happy holidays!
>>
>>  Andrea
>>
>>
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