[Smashpatriarchy] Postering at UBC?

[Aylon C]

That makes sense folks - though I have my reservations about anonymity. I
think it is a tactic and thus needs to be discussed as a tactic in a
specific time and place, and perhaps this was that time and place where it
was important. As someone who written both publicly and anonymously, my
experiences have taught me to be cautious of the fact that without
identification (with SAP) *as a general strategy*, we absolve ourselves of
responsibility and the ability to be accountable for what we do. The reason
we got feedback and were able to grow was because we did something as SAP -
the danger in removing the public name is that the power dynamics or
problematic elements do not disappear, just the name, and with the name,
the opportunity for directed critique and growth.

Just my thoughts. Glad the posters went up the all the same.



On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Michael Gabriel Rosen <
m.gabriel.rosen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just want to say, as someone reading from 'afar' (in the sense that I have
> never come to a meeting): Nice work taking in feedback and not letting it
> paralyse you from taking effective and timely action!!!
> In solidarity,
> Michael
> On Oct 24, 2013 11:36 AM, "Peter Gill" <petergill85 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Darren.  I think it was a mistake to include the blurb about
>> SAP on the first poster run.  It should be about consent and not about us.
>>  I don't have much to say about the effectiveness with the media.  But if
>> there was a cbc story it would have become about us.  Which would have been
>> super fucked.
>>
>> I think less public SAP stuff is in order.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Darren Chang <darren.chang at live.com>wrote:
>>
>>> re: previous email
>>>
>>> (3) specifically in the context of sexual assaults at UBC, it was
>>> important to not appear, perhaps even slightly, as though a group of
>>> (mostly) men are taking advantage of the situation to do some group
>>> promotion
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> From: darren.chang at live.com
>>> To: aylon.c at gmail.com; smashpatriarchy at lists.resist.ca
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:11:55 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [Smashpatriarchy] Postering at UBC?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Aylon,
>>>
>>> There was no collective decision to remove the SAP blurb on the posters.
>>> I personally made that decision after briefly consulting with another SAP
>>> member and decided it was a good idea from various angles: (1) uncertainty
>>> about whether SAP should publicly take credit for the work we do after
>>> previous discussions and (2) it made sense to keep the posters anonymous
>>> since the postering itself was done with non-SAP members currently
>>> organizing against recent series of sexual assaults at UBC.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have thoughts on this now that we have seen the effects of
>>> anonymity in the media? How might the dynamics have been different if this
>>> CBC report showed the posters were done by SAP with the original blurb?
>>>
>>> Darren
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:07:53 +0100
>>> From: aylon.c at gmail.com
>>> To: smashpatriarchy at lists.resist.ca
>>> Subject: [Smashpatriarchy] Postering at UBC?
>>>
>>> Hey Folks,
>>>
>>> Have we decided to no longer us the SAP blurb on the posters? (I did
>>> some here in the UK but left the SAP blurb on). Unless SAP wasn't behind
>>> this and someone else was inspired ;)
>>> By contrast, the posters — posted anonymously — offer tips to the
>>> attacker and to others who would consider such a crime:
>>>
>>>    - "Don't be a creep! Learn how to manage your sex drive."
>>>    - "Make consent part of your approach."
>>>    - "Learn how to deal with rejection."
>>>    - "Recognize that many women are bombarded with sexual interest."
>>>    - "If you slip up, and everyone does, learn how to make amends."
>>>    - "Don't be a rapist! Someone walking alone is NOT an invitation for
>>>    you to rape or assault."
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/don-t-be-a-rapist-posters-get-mixed-reaction-at-ubc-1.2187660
>>>
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