[Smashpatriarchy] reading group: caliban and the witch and conquest

Sun Jul 28 21:46:24 EDT 2013

hi all. i'd like to propose tuesday sept. 10 or tues. september 17 for our
first meeting, on Conquest? if this is okay with folks, i will write a
draft version of a call-out to post on SAP fb page. Peter has volunteered
to contact the feminist reading group currently running out of spartacus,
to open a dialogue with them about it. what do you think?

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:58 AM, harjap <harjap at resist.ca> wrote:

>  hey folks,
>
> around for the rest of the summer and looking forward to meeting up
> again.  I'm okay with either book and most times aside from Monday and
> Thursday evenings should generally be good for me. Have some updates from
> the Allied Media Conference in Detroit as well, met up with some good peeps
> from all over doing like minded work.
>
> harjap
>
>
>
>
>  On 2013-07-25 9:16 AM, Peter Gill wrote:
>
> I think conquest might be a better book to get us started.  I've ordered 4
> copies into Spartacus books.  Hope that's alright with folks.  I think it
> would be ideal to have the call out than 4-6 have our first open reading
> group sometime in September.
>
>  One question however: how do folks feel about there already be a
> somewhat active feminist book club already?  I like the idea of it being a
> SAP reading group meaning predominantly men.  But it might be a good idea
> to check in with the already existing feminist book club to see what their
> thoughts are?
>
>  love
> Peter
>
>  PS I'd love to see all of you sooner that September if that works for
> folks.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:25 AM, <shrudolph at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ooohhh late entry, all of August Sunday brunch would work fine, miss you
>> guys!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2013-07-24, at 8:22 AM, shrudolph at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > Hey folks,
>> >
>> > I'm really excited about doing some reading! I have rotating days off
>> where I work for two day shifts followed by two nights then have five days
>> off so it doesn't really matter what day we meet on for me. However, the
>> evening after 730 whichever day will slightly increase the chances of me
>> being able to attend.  I need about three weeks to read whichever book we
>> choose.
>> >
>> > Xo
>> > Sam
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On 2013-07-23, at 10:49 PM, usman x <ayanacalana72 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> im really sorry but i cant do weeknights, once the kids are back from
>> >> school im not free till theyre asleep. i can do weekends starting
>> >> september though.
>> >> ive read conquest a while back, ill start caliban soon, and yeah itll
>> >> take me a good month maybe 6 weeks to finish it.
>> >>
>> >> On 23 July 2013 21:38, William Damon <wgdamon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Weekday evening would work for me, I could be available 6:30-7:30 or
>> later.
>> >>>
>> >>> For me I'd guess it would take me about a month to read a 200-300pg
>> book
>> >>> cover to cover, depending on how easy it was to read.
>> >>>
>> >>> Will
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:48 PM, usman x <ayanacalana72 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> caliban and the witch is about 275 pages. conquest is 200 pages.
>> >>>> should we decide which one we're reading first so folks can start on
>> >>>> it.
>> >>>> also, how much time would we like to cover these books?
>> >>>> u
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 23 July 2013 18:29, Christopher Leinonen
>> >>>> <christopher.leinonen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> I am interested, and am usually available weekday evenings (from
>> >>>>> 6:30-7:00).
>> >>>>> I can do Sundays, but I feel like the standard sunday meeting time
>> has
>> >>>>> helped contribute to us having fewer meetings.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Call out seems like a good idea, too.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Peter Gill <petergill85 at gmail.com
>> >
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I was thinking that we would write a call out.  Kind of saying
>> what we
>> >>>>>> are
>> >>>>>> about and that we are welcoming new folks to the reading group.
>>  And
>> >>>>>> have
>> >>>>>> the discussion for the on a weekday evening in early September.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If folks are down which it seems like folks are we could meet as a
>> >>>>>> small
>> >>>>>> group to discuss plans further.  Unfortunately Saturday mornings
>> don't
>> >>>>>> work
>> >>>>>> for me.  Weekday evenings work best for me at the moment.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> love and respect
>> >>>>>> Peter
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM, William Damon <wgdamon at gmail.com
>> >
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> That would work a lot better for me.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> W
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 2013-07-23, at 10:51 AM, Aylon C <aylon.c at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I'm free whenever - it seems that some of us have difficulties
>> with
>> >>>>>>> sundays. Would saturday brunch time work better?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Darren Chang <
>> darren.chang at live.com>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> hi all, i'm excited to get back together and do some reading
>> >>>>>>>> discussions. i should be relatively free from now till end of
>> august
>> >>>>>>>> -
>> >>>>>>>> darren
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:48:20 -0700
>> >>>>>>>>> From: ayanacalana72 at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>> To: Smashpatriarchy at lists.resist.ca
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Smashpatriarchy] reading group: caliban and the
>> witch
>> >>>>>>>>> and conquest
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> i cant make it last 3 sundays in august but apart from that id
>> be
>> >>>>>>>>> happy to meet to discuss.
>> >>>>>>>>> u
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 21 July 2013 11:24, Peter Gill <petergill85 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> I think there is potential to change the day and time we meet.
>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>> ordered 4
>> >>>>>>>>>> copies of andrea smith hope folks are okay with that. Also will
>> >>>>>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>>>>> working
>> >>>>>>>>>> on some kind of write up to open the group up a little bit.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Love
>> >>>>>>>>>> P
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:12 PM, William Damon
>> >>>>>>>>>> <wgdamon at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes! I'd be interested. Peter told me about the Silvia
>> Deferici
>> >>>>>>>>>>> book and
>> >>>>>>>>>>> it sounds really interesting. The only trouble is that Sunday
>> >>>>>>>>>>> evenings are
>> >>>>>>>>>>> still out for me, that's when my housing collective meets.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> W
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM, reg johanson
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <regjohanson at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hi all. sorry we haven't been meeting these days, but i know
>> we
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> are all
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> busy with projects. peter and i talked today and thought it
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> might
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> be a good
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> way to get busy again by doing a reading group around these
>> two
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> texts, by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> silvia federici and andrea smith, respectively. might also
>> be a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> good way to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> open the group up to some fresh ideas and people. would folks
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> interested
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> in this?
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