[Smashpatriarchy] reading group: caliban and the witch and conquest

harjap harjap at resist.ca
Thu Jul 25 13:58:17 EDT 2013


hey folks,

around for the rest of the summer and looking forward to meeting up 
again.  I'm okay with either book and most times aside from Monday and 
Thursday evenings should generally be good for me. Have some updates 
from the Allied Media Conference in Detroit as well, met up with some 
good peeps from all over doing like minded work.

harjap



On 2013-07-25 9:16 AM, Peter Gill wrote:
> I think conquest might be a better book to get us started.  I've 
> ordered 4 copies into Spartacus books.  Hope that's alright with 
> folks.  I think it would be ideal to have the call out than 4-6 have 
> our first open reading group sometime in September.
>
> One question however: how do folks feel about there already be a 
> somewhat active feminist book club already?  I like the idea of it 
> being a SAP reading group meaning predominantly men.  But it might be 
> a good idea to check in with the already existing feminist book club 
> to see what their thoughts are?
>
> love
> Peter
>
> PS I'd love to see all of you sooner that September if that works for 
> folks.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:25 AM, <shrudolph at gmail.com 
> <mailto:shrudolph at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Ooohhh late entry, all of August Sunday brunch would work fine,
>     miss you guys!
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On 2013-07-24, at 8:22 AM, shrudolph at gmail.com
>     <mailto:shrudolph at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     > Hey folks,
>     >
>     > I'm really excited about doing some reading! I have rotating
>     days off where I work for two day shifts followed by two nights
>     then have five days off so it doesn't really matter what day we
>     meet on for me. However, the evening after 730 whichever day will
>     slightly increase the chances of me being able to attend.  I need
>     about three weeks to read whichever book we choose.
>     >
>     > Xo
>     > Sam
>     >
>     > Sent from my iPhone
>     >
>     > On 2013-07-23, at 10:49 PM, usman x <ayanacalana72 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ayanacalana72 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> im really sorry but i cant do weeknights, once the kids are
>     back from
>     >> school im not free till theyre asleep. i can do weekends starting
>     >> september though.
>     >> ive read conquest a while back, ill start caliban soon, and
>     yeah itll
>     >> take me a good month maybe 6 weeks to finish it.
>     >>
>     >> On 23 July 2013 21:38, William Damon <wgdamon at gmail.com
>     <mailto:wgdamon at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>> Weekday evening would work for me, I could be available
>     6:30-7:30 or later.
>     >>>
>     >>> For me I'd guess it would take me about a month to read a
>     200-300pg book
>     >>> cover to cover, depending on how easy it was to read.
>     >>>
>     >>> Will
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:48 PM, usman x
>     <ayanacalana72 at gmail.com <mailto:ayanacalana72 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> caliban and the witch is about 275 pages. conquest is 200 pages.
>     >>>> should we decide which one we're reading first so folks can
>     start on
>     >>>> it.
>     >>>> also, how much time would we like to cover these books?
>     >>>> u
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 23 July 2013 18:29, Christopher Leinonen
>     >>>> <christopher.leinonen at gmail.com
>     <mailto:christopher.leinonen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>> I am interested, and am usually available weekday evenings (from
>     >>>>> 6:30-7:00).
>     >>>>> I can do Sundays, but I feel like the standard sunday
>     meeting time has
>     >>>>> helped contribute to us having fewer meetings.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Call out seems like a good idea, too.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Peter Gill
>     <petergill85 at gmail.com <mailto:petergill85 at gmail.com>>
>     >>>>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> I was thinking that we would write a call out.  Kind of
>     saying what we
>     >>>>>> are
>     >>>>>> about and that we are welcoming new folks to the reading
>     group.  And
>     >>>>>> have
>     >>>>>> the discussion for the on a weekday evening in early September.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> If folks are down which it seems like folks are we could
>     meet as a
>     >>>>>> small
>     >>>>>> group to discuss plans further.  Unfortunately Saturday
>     mornings don't
>     >>>>>> work
>     >>>>>> for me.  Weekday evenings work best for me at the moment.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> love and respect
>     >>>>>> Peter
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM, William Damon
>     <wgdamon at gmail.com <mailto:wgdamon at gmail.com>>
>     >>>>>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> That would work a lot better for me.
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> W
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> On 2013-07-23, at 10:51 AM, Aylon C <aylon.c at gmail.com
>     <mailto:aylon.c at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> I'm free whenever - it seems that some of us have
>     difficulties with
>     >>>>>>> sundays. Would saturday brunch time work better?
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Darren Chang
>     <darren.chang at live.com <mailto:darren.chang at live.com>>
>     >>>>>>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> hi all, i'm excited to get back together and do some reading
>     >>>>>>>> discussions. i should be relatively free from now till
>     end of august
>     >>>>>>>> -
>     >>>>>>>> darren
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:48:20 -0700
>     >>>>>>>>> From: ayanacalana72 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ayanacalana72 at gmail.com>
>     >>>>>>>>> To: Smashpatriarchy at lists.resist.ca
>     <mailto:Smashpatriarchy at lists.resist.ca>
>     >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Smashpatriarchy] reading group: caliban
>     and the witch
>     >>>>>>>>> and conquest
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>> i cant make it last 3 sundays in august but apart from
>     that id be
>     >>>>>>>>> happy to meet to discuss.
>     >>>>>>>>> u
>     >>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>> On 21 July 2013 11:24, Peter Gill <petergill85 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:petergill85 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>>>> I think there is potential to change the day and time
>     we meet. I
>     >>>>>>>>>> ordered 4
>     >>>>>>>>>> copies of andrea smith hope folks are okay with that.
>     Also will
>     >>>>>>>>>> be
>     >>>>>>>>>> working
>     >>>>>>>>>> on some kind of write up to open the group up a little bit.
>     >>>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>>> Love
>     >>>>>>>>>> P
>     >>>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:12 PM, William Damon
>     >>>>>>>>>> <wgdamon at gmail.com <mailto:wgdamon at gmail.com>>
>     >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> Yes! I'd be interested. Peter told me about the Silvia
>     Deferici
>     >>>>>>>>>>> book and
>     >>>>>>>>>>> it sounds really interesting. The only trouble is that
>     Sunday
>     >>>>>>>>>>> evenings are
>     >>>>>>>>>>> still out for me, that's when my housing collective meets.
>     >>>>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> W
>     >>>>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM, reg johanson
>     >>>>>>>>>>> <regjohanson at gmail.com <mailto:regjohanson at gmail.com>>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> hi all. sorry we haven't been meeting these days, but
>     i know we
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> are all
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> busy with projects. peter and i talked today and
>     thought it
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> might
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> be a good
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> way to get busy again by doing a reading group around
>     these two
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> texts, by
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> silvia federici and andrea smith, respectively. might
>     also be a
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> good way to
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> open the group up to some fresh ideas and people.
>     would folks
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> be
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> interested
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> in this?
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>
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