[Smashpatriarchy] Regarding the Creep Posters

[Peter Gill]

I like: *Believe* the reality that *many women are bombarded with sexual
interest,* invitations, harassment, groping, and *worse* on an almost
constant basis.
*Because it's true.*


On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Peter Gill <petergill85 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Fiona Balazsi <balazsi.f at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Smashpatriarchy] Regarding the Creep Posters
> To: Peter Gill <petergill85 at gmail.com>
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>
> i hesitate to tell men to "understand" women's experiences.. because they
> can't.
> maybe
>
> *Believe* the reality that *many women are bombarded with sexual interest,
> * invitations, harassment, groping, and *worse* on an almost constant
> basis.
> *Because it's true.*
>
> or
> *Recognize *that *many women are bombarded with sexual interest,* invitations,
> harassment, groping, and *worse* on an almost constant basis.
>
> in tip #5 i think that Deal with is clear enough.
>
> feel free to forward these thoughts to the SAPs
>
> love and rage,
> ff
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Peter Gill <petergill85 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Christopher Leinonen" <christopher.leinonen at gmail.com>
>> Date: Jan 6, 2013 9:29 PM
>> Subject: [Smashpatriarchy] Regarding the Creep Posters
>> To: <smashpatriarchy at lists.resist.ca>
>>
>> Hey folks!
>> So overall, as we've seen, the Don't Be A Creep Posters went over really
>> well.  But there have been some issues brought up regarding the wording of
>> Tip #4 (which I think could also apply to Tip #5).  To refresh:
>>
>> Tip #4:
>> *Deal with the fact that many women are bombarded with sexual interest,*invitations, harassment, groping, and
>> *worse* on an almost constant basis.
>>
>> Tip #5:
>> *Deal with the possibility that she'll receive* your interest
>> differently than you intend.  *Disengage.*
>> *
>> *
>> Regarding #4 in particular, there's been a bit of confusion as to what is
>> meant by "Deal with..."
>> So at the meeting today, we agreed that we should reconsider the wording
>> before we package these up as PDFs for wider distribution.
>>
>> My suggestion:
>> *Understand that many women are bombarded with sexual interest,* invitations,
>> harassment, groping, and *worse* on an almost constant basis.
>> Or possibly "Understand the fact that..." to hew closer to the original
>> wording.
>>
>> I think this particular issue of wording came up because #4 and #5 were
>> originally a single tip but had to be separated to make them properly
>> digestible for a poster.  #5 still uses the "deal with" language, but I
>> think since it has the imperative "Disengage," the meaning is more clear.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> -Chris
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