[Smashpatriarchy] Fwd: Regarding the Creep Posters

[Peter Gill]

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From: Fiona Balazsi <balazsi.f at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Smashpatriarchy] Regarding the Creep Posters
To: Peter Gill <petergill85 at gmail.com>


i hesitate to tell men to "understand" women's experiences.. because they
can't.
maybe

*Believe* the reality that *many women are bombarded with sexual
interest,* invitations,
harassment, groping, and *worse* on an almost constant basis.
*Because it's true.*

or
*Recognize *that *many women are bombarded with sexual interest,* invitations,
harassment, groping, and *worse* on an almost constant basis.

in tip #5 i think that Deal with is clear enough.

feel free to forward these thoughts to the SAPs

love and rage,
ff


On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Peter Gill <petergill85 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> From: "Christopher Leinonen" <christopher.leinonen at gmail.com>
> Date: Jan 6, 2013 9:29 PM
> Subject: [Smashpatriarchy] Regarding the Creep Posters
> To: <smashpatriarchy at lists.resist.ca>
>
> Hey folks!
> So overall, as we've seen, the Don't Be A Creep Posters went over really
> well.  But there have been some issues brought up regarding the wording of
> Tip #4 (which I think could also apply to Tip #5).  To refresh:
>
> Tip #4:
> *Deal with the fact that many women are bombarded with sexual interest,*invitations, harassment, groping, and
> *worse* on an almost constant basis.
>
> Tip #5:
> *Deal with the possibility that she'll receive* your interest differently
> than you intend.  *Disengage.*
> *
> *
> Regarding #4 in particular, there's been a bit of confusion as to what is
> meant by "Deal with..."
> So at the meeting today, we agreed that we should reconsider the wording
> before we package these up as PDFs for wider distribution.
>
> My suggestion:
> *Understand that many women are bombarded with sexual interest,* invitations,
> harassment, groping, and *worse* on an almost constant basis.
> Or possibly "Understand the fact that..." to hew closer to the original
> wording.
>
> I think this particular issue of wording came up because #4 and #5 were
> originally a single tip but had to be separated to make them properly
> digestible for a poster.  #5 still uses the "deal with" language, but I
> think since it has the imperative "Disengage," the meaning is more clear.
>
> Thoughts?
> -Chris
>
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