[Shadow_Group] Fw: [nwanarchy] a revolution requires...

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I always think it's kind of interesting that people make a distinction 
between "talking" and "acting" when clearly lots of the rifts that happen 
between groups and individuals are based in people's inability to 
communicate with each other in respectful, mutual, supportive, healthy, 
honest, open ways. We have to figure out how to meet our material needs 
within saner structures and systems, but it seems like we also need to 
work hard on healthier communication and healthier relationships. Lots of 
that involves talk.

When I was an advisor at school, it was soooooooooooooooo clear how many 
people were so desperate for somebody to just sit and listen to them talk 
through the stuff they were dealing with and then to engage their thougths 
and ideas honestly. That's something that I think is a huge gap in many of 
our communities - the skills and attitudes and values it takes to actually 
give a shit about what other people feel and think and then to engage with 
them with your own ideas so you can then build some different ideas 
together.

I know you mentioned the talk/action thing, Jamie, and this isn't meant to 
be a direct response to your thoughts. I know you also think folks have to 
figure out how to live together in more workable ways. The "talk" versus 
"action" thing just always strikes me as interesting.

I also think Elijah's email was probably half sarcasm and half serious 
question. I bet nobody wants you to leave the list, dl.

tamara



On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, some one wrote:

> No, my intention is not to troll for a fight.  I was responding to 
> entrophicmind's message that "maybe
> it's time for action instead of talk."  I found it to be impatient and 
> reckless...I feel it is my responsibility to think before I act.
>
> I am seriously interested in discussing a vision, goal and mission.  Granted, 
> it's a very challenging topic, but I have yet to create/discover/hear a 
> single unifying message that will naturally provide the magnetic force that 
> will bring together a true community...filled with not only those of us who 
> are already active, but also those that are blind to the system we live in.
>
> I desire a national revolution and I know the key is to touch the majority of 
> the people, which is not a simple task.  I'll leave if you want, but I'd 
> rather have a constructive discussion and explore ideas with like minded 
> people...I thought this was the place.
>
> -dl
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