[Sdalliance] A proposal for a new way forward for CRSD

[Bo Elder]

Dear comrades in Collective Resistance San Diego and the currently unnamed
twice monthly Sunday 10am group,

I appreciate the feedback everyone has given me on this idea and having
taken it all into account, I realize that my proposal is not feasible.
Thanks for your consideration, and I apologize for posting here- I had
forgotten what we decided about the use of this list and proposals etc.  So
basically, never mind about all that and see you Sunday!

in solidarity,

Bo Elder, CRSD & "the currently unnamed twice monthly Sunday 10am group"
415 630 3135
https://www.facebook.com/bo.sdsu

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Monty Kroopkin <mkroopkin at juno.com> wrote:

> Oh, also, the next CRSD Council of Delegates meeting is next Sunday
> (November 5th) at 1pm, at the Brown Building.
>
> We did not have quorum at the meeting last week so we are trying again.
> Hopefully all orgs and committees will be represented this time.
>
> We have 4 proposals on the agenda, and the one regarding the proposed
> campaign committee, San Diego United Against Hate, is very relevant.
>
> mk
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
>
> From: "Monty Kroopkin" mkroopkin at juno.com
> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 04:03:43 GMT
>
>
> Fellow Workers,
>
> Firstly, based upon the address list, I assume this thread has NOT been
> shared with the distinct individuals (non-overlapping) of the 'Sunday 10 am
> group'. Perhaps Bo will update them on all this conversation here.
>
> Secondly, on page three of the CRSD Structure Document (aka, our
> 'constitution' or 'bylaws') we have:
>
> *Proposals*
> *Proposals would either be sent up to the Council from a member
> organization or a Committee, or*
> *be proposed by members at the council meeting. The proposal would then be
> worked out by the*
> *delegates at the council meeting. Upon approval to disseminate the
> proposal by the council, the*
> *proposal would then be sent back down to the organizational members and
> Committees for*
> *ratification. The organizations and Committees could also send the
> proposal back to the council*
> *with further modification. In this way, a sort of dialectical
> relationship is established.*
>
> We have been using this process for several months now.
>
> We have also tried for a long time now to NOT use this listserv for
> discussion and to reserve its use for announcements, etc.
>
> mk
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
>
>
>
> From: Bo Elder <belder76 at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 18:41:06 -0700
> To: Yesenia Padilla <yeseniatpadilla at gmail.com>
> Cc: SDalliance at lists.resist.ca
> Subject: Re: [Sdalliance] A proposal for a new way forward for CRSD
>
>
> Thanks, Yesi, I appreciate your perspective.  I would see this as a
> building on or superseding of what we've done, not a putting to waste any
> of the good work we've done.  But I totally respect where
> comrades/organizations that may disagree are coming from.  It's definitely
> not my desire to just be de(con)structive.
>
> Would it make sense to establish a time and place to discuss this?  What
> would be the protocol for putting a discussion of this idea on a Delegate
> Council agenda?
>
> Bo
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Yesenia Padilla <yeseniatpadilla at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> absolutely, Bo, I recognize that desire, and appreciate you thinking
>> outside of the box! it just seems that that won't work for a lot of the
>> orgs already involved. I do agree that CRSD does need to exert a presence,
>> however i don't think that this drastic overturning of the progress we've
>> made thus far would do it.
>>
>>
>> ‌
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Bo Elder <belder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Yesi, that's certainly another reasonable alternative, and I'll raise
>>> it with the Sunday 10am group.  One concern is limiting the number of
>>> meetings that involve many of the same people and organizations.  But I
>>> hear what both you and Eric are saying about simply having the Sunday 10am
>>> group affiliate to CRSD as it exists.  It's entirely possible that may be
>>> for the best, I'm just trying to help us work most efficiently.
>>>
>>> Bo
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Yesenia Padilla <
>>> yeseniatpadilla at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all:
>>>>
>>>> I'm on sabbatical from my DAF duties, but should be returning soon.
>>>> I'll pour over this more in-depth, but my initial reaction is more akin to
>>>> Eric's.one of the many boons of CRSD's structure is the level of structural
>>>> autonomy, which enables orgs a different ideologies and aims to participate
>>>> under the name as an alliance.
>>>>
>>>> Bo, it seems your Sunday group has created an org, not an alliance. Why
>>>> the need to subsume CRSD? Why not just name your org and join CRSD if you
>>>> want?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yesenia Padilla
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 2, 2017, at 18:12, Bo Elder <belder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I want to point out that the Sunday 10am group does have a structure:
>>>>
>>>> I. On General Assemblies (GAs):
>>>>
>>>> We will hold a GA twice a month. Decisions at GAs will be made with a
>>>> standard of 2/3rds majority minimum. GAs may change any/all members of the
>>>> OC (Organizing Committee). GAs may create or dissolve Working Groups (WGs).
>>>>
>>>> II. On the Organizing Committee (OC):
>>>>
>>>> Each Working Group (WG) will nominate 1 person to represent the WG on
>>>> the OC. The OC must be confirmed by the GA. OC reps can be changed by GA or
>>>> WG. Any member of the GA may consult with the OC directly or via their rep
>>>> to the OC. People can contact the OC directly to consult if they wish.
>>>> People can attend an OC meeting if they wish, but OC meetings will be
>>>> scheduled based on needs of WG representatives. Only 1 representative per
>>>> WG will get a vote in OC meetings. Decisions of the OC will be made
>>>> unanimously. The OC will make sure the GA takes place. The OC will propose
>>>> an agenda and chair for the GA.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Eric Grey <jsgreyshade at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore I can’t see, DAF who created this structure, the PSL who
>>>>> are all about structure, or the IWW which has 112 year-old tradition of
>>>>> constitutional organization agreeing to this at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 6:00 PM Eric Grey <jsgreyshade at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are talking about chucking the entire structure of CRSD and
>>>>>> replacing it with a completely unstructured committee with no allowance for
>>>>>> the autonomy of its individual organizations, or structure for negotiation
>>>>>> between these groups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  No way. This would undo a year of work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 5:39 PM Bo Elder <belder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S. I realize there is a loooot here, but please consider it! Also,
>>>>>>> see you Sunday!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Bo Elder <belder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear comrades in Collective Resistance San Diego and the currently
>>>>>>>> unnamed twice monthly Sunday 10am group,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We already meet in the same place, often on the same day, involve
>>>>>>>> many of the same people, have many shared values, and operate in similar
>>>>>>>> ways.  CRSD has been established longer (about a year now), while the
>>>>>>>> unnamed Sunday 10am group grows out of post-Charlottesville organizing
>>>>>>>> upsurge.  I have been pondering a way of working together more fruitfully
>>>>>>>> and efficiently and I have something to propose that I hope you'll find
>>>>>>>> valuable.  I talked with Vanessa from Colectivo Zapatista, one of CRSD's
>>>>>>>> affiliated organizations, and she agreed that this might be a good way to
>>>>>>>> build on what we've done so far and move forward.  So here is my proposal...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to CRSD (CZ, DAF, IWW, PSL, RR) comrades:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Put CRSD Delegate Council meetings on indefinite hold
>>>>>>>> 2) Give the name "Collective Resistance San Diego" to the currently
>>>>>>>> unnamed "Sunday 10am" group
>>>>>>>> 3) Merge the CRSD undocumented sanctuary committee into the "Sunday
>>>>>>>> 10am" undocumented sanctuary working group
>>>>>>>> 4) Continue the CRSD internal communication and legal committees as
>>>>>>>> "Sunday 10am" group working groups
>>>>>>>> 5) Attend twice monthly General Assemblies and Organizing Committee
>>>>>>>> meetings as best suits your needs (see Appendix A below)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to "Sunday 10am" comrades:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Affirm the Collective Resistance San Diego Points of Unity (see
>>>>>>>> Appendix B below)
>>>>>>>> 2) Adopt the name "Collective Resistance San Diego"
>>>>>>>> 3) Merge the CRSD undocumented sanctuary committee into the "Sunday
>>>>>>>> 10am" undocumented sanctuary working group
>>>>>>>> 4) Affirm the CRSD internal communication and legal committees as
>>>>>>>> "Sunday 10am" group working groups
>>>>>>>> 5) Affirm 1 representative each from the internal communication and
>>>>>>>> legal working groups to sit on the Organizing Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe this could result in a new Collective Resistance that has
>>>>>>>> connections to established organizations, name recognition, and the
>>>>>>>> flexibility to work autonomously and proactively.  What do you think?
>>>>>>>> Please let me know any comments, questions, or concerns you may have, and I
>>>>>>>> look forward to discussing this idea with you all as soon as possible!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in solidarity,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bo Elder, CRSD & "the currently unnamed twice monthly Sunday 10am
>>>>>>>> group"
>>>>>>>> 415 630 3135 <(415)%20630-3135>
>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/bo.sdsu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Appendix A:
>>>>>>>> (the currently unnamed twice monthly Sunday 10am group)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I. On General Assemblies (GAs):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We will hold a GA twice a month. Decisions at GAs will be made with
>>>>>>>> a standard of 2/3rds majority minimum. GAs may change any/all members of
>>>>>>>> the OC (Organizing Committee). GAs may create or dissolve Working Groups
>>>>>>>> (WGs).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> II. On the Organizing Committee (OC):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Each Working Group (WG) will nominate 1 person to represent the WG
>>>>>>>> on the OC. The OC must be confirmed by the GA. OC reps can be changed by GA
>>>>>>>> or WG. Any member of the GA may consult with the OC directly or via their
>>>>>>>> rep to the OC. People can contact the OC directly to consult if they wish.
>>>>>>>> People can attend an OC meeting if they wish, but OC meetings will be
>>>>>>>> scheduled based on needs of WG representatives. Only 1 representative per
>>>>>>>> WG will get a vote in OC meetings. Decisions of the OC will be made
>>>>>>>> unanimously. The OC will make sure the GA takes place. The OC will propose
>>>>>>>> an agenda and chair for the GA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Appendix B:
>>>>>>>> Collective Resistance San Diego
>>>>>>>> Points of Unity
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. We are anti-racist, anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, anti-war,
>>>>>>>> and anti-fascist.
>>>>>>>> 2. We are revolutionary. Our membership subscribes to a broad range
>>>>>>>> of radical left ideologies.
>>>>>>>> 3. We believe in practical action to defend all oppressed people by
>>>>>>>> any means necessary, through a diversity of tactics.
>>>>>>>> 4. We stand for climate and environmental justice. We see the need
>>>>>>>> for a local and global transition to sustainable modes of living. We oppose
>>>>>>>> the cruel and destructive treatment of animals.
>>>>>>>> 5. We believe access to healthy food, clean water, clothing, safe
>>>>>>>> housing, healthcare, equitable education, and transit is a basic human
>>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>>> 6. We support and defend the self-determination and liberation of
>>>>>>>> people of color including those from colonized continents, nations,
>>>>>>>> communities and peoples.
>>>>>>>> 7. We support and defend the self-determination and liberation of
>>>>>>>> queer and intersex folx, and all those of marginalized gender identities
>>>>>>>> and orientations.
>>>>>>>> 8. We support and defend the self-determination and liberation of
>>>>>>>> all workers including undocumented, incarcerated, subsistence, sex, and
>>>>>>>> household laborers.
>>>>>>>> 9. We support and defend the self-determination and liberation of
>>>>>>>> migrants. We assert that no human being is illegal.
>>>>>>>> 10. We support and defend the self-determination and liberation of
>>>>>>>> the physically and/or mentally differently-abled and will work to make our
>>>>>>>> movement and society supportive to their needs.
>>>>>>>> 11. We are intersectional feminists; we support and defend the
>>>>>>>> self-determination and liberation of womxn and trans-womxn including their
>>>>>>>> right to bodily autonomy.
>>>>>>>> 12. We value and respect our elders, youth and children and believe
>>>>>>>> it is a shared responsibility to assure their health and well-being.
>>>>>>>> 13. We support and defend the freedoms of oppressed spiritual and
>>>>>>>> religious groups, including Indigenous, Jewish and Muslim peoples, and of
>>>>>>>> non-believers.
>>>>>>>> 14. We are pro-abolition; we demand the immediate abolishment of
>>>>>>>> the enslavement and exploitation implemented through the Prison Industrial
>>>>>>>> Complex and supported by the 13th Amendment.*
>>>>>>>> 15. We oppose and fight national and state-sanctioned violence
>>>>>>>> against all people, especially the marginalized. We actively resist the
>>>>>>>> oppressive efforts of the Border Patrol, ICE, police forces and extra-state
>>>>>>>> actors.
>>>>>>>> 16. We hold political, civic, and community leaders responsible
>>>>>>>> when they cause or permit the people and the planet to be harmed.
>>>>>>>> 17. Love is and must remain the reason for our revolution and at
>>>>>>>> the center of our intentions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>>>>>>>> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>>>>>>>> shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>>>>>>>> jurisdiction.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Appendix C:
>>>>>>>> (the currently unnamed twice monthly Sunday 10am group)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why We Need To Act
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nationally and locally, oppressed people and the political left
>>>>>>>> have been targets of both state oppression and bigoted vigilantism.
>>>>>>>> Deportations, police brutality, queerbashing, and threats against mosques
>>>>>>>> and synagogues are a daily reality.  Charlottesville has become a hashtag,
>>>>>>>> while here in San Diego, Chicano Park, Planned Parenthood, and rallies like
>>>>>>>> May Day and the Impeachment March have been targets of intimidation. We see
>>>>>>>> this in the context of global intersectional capitalist oppression and the
>>>>>>>> resurgence of fascist and neo-Nazi movements, as austerity and imperialism
>>>>>>>> fan the flames of reaction. We cannot wait for things to get worse, the
>>>>>>>> time to act is now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What We Aim To Do
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Organize
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Build power from the bottom up, not depending on politicians or cops
>>>>>>>> Strategize collectively, make decisions democratically, act in
>>>>>>>> maximum unity
>>>>>>>> Prioritize the needs and voices of the most vulnerable
>>>>>>>> Respect and believe the experiences and knowledge of oppressed
>>>>>>>> communities
>>>>>>>> Involve newly active people who want to resist oppression and work
>>>>>>>> with existing organizations, especially those rooted in oppressed
>>>>>>>> communities
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Defend
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Help to provide and coordinate event safety
>>>>>>>> Improve capacity for individual and collective self-defense
>>>>>>>> Take strategic action to defend all oppressed people by any means
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>> Prioritize relationships and communication with the communities we
>>>>>>>> aim to defend
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actively Resist
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gather and share intelligence on the other side
>>>>>>>> Proactively disrupt and confront fascist, oppressive, and
>>>>>>>> exclusionary forces
>>>>>>>> Organize rapid response to both state oppression and bigoted
>>>>>>>> vigilantism
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Appendix D:
>>>>>>>> Collective Resistance San Diego
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mission Statement
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fundamental needs and rights of the people of our communities
>>>>>>>> are under attack by a tiny elite that hoards resources and authority. We
>>>>>>>> cannot trust or respect any government that claims to protect us but
>>>>>>>> instead ruthlessly protects the elite. We are an alliance of organizations,
>>>>>>>> collectives, and individuals of various identities and perspectives working
>>>>>>>> in collaboration to stop this attack. Collectively, we are anti-racist,
>>>>>>>> anti-capitalist, and anti-imperialist. We are revolutionary, intersectional
>>>>>>>> feminists. This alliance is non-sectarian: we welcome those who want to
>>>>>>>> fight exploitation and oppression.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We seek to prioritize the needs of the most vulnerable and the
>>>>>>>> voices of the oppressed and the marginalized and build trust through joint
>>>>>>>> work. We are committed to organizing, mobilizing, supporting and defending
>>>>>>>> our communities.  We work in solidarity to unify our struggles to dismantle
>>>>>>>> the systems that harm us and the environment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In addition to resisting attacks, we will work together for a just
>>>>>>>> and cooperative future for San Diego and beyond. This will be accomplished
>>>>>>>> by building powerful community-based movements around a shared platform for
>>>>>>>> advancing political, economic, and social liberation and self-determination
>>>>>>>> for all oppressed peoples. We work for concrete goals today that build
>>>>>>>> toward a revolutionary future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our movement is based in love for each other, and the assertion
>>>>>>>> that we must fight for liberation. In the words of Assata Shakur, “It is
>>>>>>>> our duty to fight for our freedom. It is our duty to win. We must love each
>>>>>>>> other and support each other. We have nothing to lose but our chains.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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