[Sdalliance] Agenda for our Sunday (2.26.17) Meeting & Self Defense Mtg at noon

Erin Bodhi erinbodhi15 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 7 15:57:12 PST 2017 

we can meet next Saturday for the 10am peace circle on the 18th or the 25th
peace circle at 10am

On Mar 7, 2017 1:30 PM, "Erin Bodhi" <erinbodhi15 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> hello,
>
> thank you alicia for checking on me. thank you justin for checking on me a
> few weeks ago. i mentioned being an empath which affects much of my
> existence. I am moving forward with caution and drawing boundaries for
> myself as to maintain peace of mind and mental stability, literally. i
> chose not to reply as to not further conversation and await us uniting
> again about an issue larger than me, very much so nationally. I want to
> address my shortcomings and dismissive approach. CRSD is something i was
> invited into. i knowingly burned myself out and was never in the condition
> to be more than the student. with that said, i plan on graduating life with
> a Ph.d as best i can to move on to the next in peace and positive energy.
> it is time for restoration.
>
> On Feb 28, 2017 9:04 AM, "Bo Elder" <belder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm happy to participate in whatever is useful for the people of CRSD.
>> I'm glad we're talking about an in-person meeting that is separate from the
>> upcoming Delegates Council Meeting.  Let me know when and where my presence
>> is desired and I'll do my best to be there!
>>
>> Bo
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Anne Barron <anne at prcsd.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, all
>>>
>>> The PRC is hosting a series of peace circles over the next 4 Saturdays,
>>> 10am-noon, if you are interested in experiencing one.
>>>
>>> They are pretty much similar to the description Ben just sent out about
>>> the Radical Faeries; each Saturday is hosted by a different facilitator
>>> with different styles.  We hope to continue these Circles based on
>>> community interest.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Anne
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Benjamin <organizer at voicesrally.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm just going to speak of my own limited experience with the
>>>> possibility that it might be of value to someone here.
>>>>
>>>> The few times I've participated in this alliance, I've witnessed a bit
>>>> of power struggle, identity politics and pontificating the superiority
>>>> one's own moral stance.  It doesn't feel right to me...it doesn't feel like
>>>> the *radical* response I want for the shit happening in the world today.
>>>> Again, just speaking for myself.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the most radical/revolutionary thing each of us can do, is the
>>>> thing that it seems most of us are not doing (I suppose that could be a
>>>> definition of *radical* jejejeje).  That is  ~speaking from a place of
>>>> vulnerability (vs rightness)~~listening from a place openness (vs
>>>> judgement).  In my own relationships, this sort of orientation creates the
>>>> highest level of accountability with those that participate.  Conversely,
>>>> when most of my speech is dedicated to "you" (you did this, you said that),
>>>> I have abdicated the responsibility of sharing and investigating my own
>>>> actions/experience/thoughts/feelings.
>>>>
>>>> A group that I think has really earned the title of *radical* is The
>>>> Radical Faeries.  They have a wonderfully simple practice called heart
>>>> circle, that I personally would love to adapt to this group.
>>>> https://www.albionfaeries.org.uk/heart-circles/
>>>>
>>>> feel free to call me if anyone would like to discuss.
>>>>
>>>> sincerely,
>>>> Benjamin
>>>> they/them/their
>>>> 619-792-0925 <(619)%20792-0925>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Bo Elder <belder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm on the Next Meeting Committee, and I think it will be
>>>>> uncontroversial (in fact, I may be restating points made by others at
>>>>> yesterday's meeting) to say that the Next Meeting Committee should put at
>>>>> least the following 2 issues, which have generated controversy, on the
>>>>> agenda for discussion at the first Delegates Council Meeting:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) internal communications (i.e. not public statements, but for
>>>>> example communication at meetings and over the listserv)
>>>>> 2) chartering and leadership of committees (including powers of chairs)
>>>>>
>>>>> I think these are important areas to address regardless of any of the
>>>>> individuals involved.  If anyone want to do anything beyond this to address
>>>>> controversies that have arisen I'm happy to try to help as best I can,
>>>>> though of course I can't promise I'll agree with anyone's particular
>>>>> perspective on any controversy.  It would probably be most productive to
>>>>> contact me offlist if anyone wishes to.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm very much looking forward to our first Delegates Council Meeting.
>>>>> Many, many people have poured themselves into CRSD over the past several
>>>>> months, and I believe the upcoming Delegates Council Meeting is an
>>>>> important evolution of our work that should make us proud.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Anne Barron <anne at prcsd.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Ryan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am suggesting a restorative circle to continue the discussion about
>>>>>> the discord around the Self-Defense Committee, to restore balance after
>>>>>> taking everyone's perspective and respecting their right to speak out, to
>>>>>> come to a group consensus around the purpose/role/participants within this
>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yessie or Mickey, as chairs, can you pls post our Safe Space guide
>>>>>> that we read aloud at each meeting, so we can really make sure we are
>>>>>> addressing each other with respect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the tone of Ryan's email I felt was disrespectful, and ignored my own
>>>>>> experience.  The chair didn't talk about the situation or address me at all
>>>>>> during or after the meeting...this is disrespectful from my perspective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ryan's email seems to suggest he felt disrespected from my email
>>>>>> calling for a meeting?
>>>>>> so I propose a restorative justice session to deal with our group
>>>>>> disagreement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those of you who missed yesterday's meeting:  I learned that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - the Self-Defense committee is now a closed committee (no
>>>>>>    explanation that I heard),
>>>>>>    - that I was secretly booted off the very committee I called for
>>>>>>    at our second Collective Mass meeting (without contact),
>>>>>>    - that we don't know who is on the committee
>>>>>>    - that there are no guides for chairing a committee,
>>>>>>    - that the group didn't discuss the problems of closed
>>>>>>    committee/powerful chair system
>>>>>>    - that the Self-Defense committee has created a plan for El
>>>>>>    Cajon/Santee without input from those people most at risk in those
>>>>>>    communities (fyi- that includes women, for those of you not aware of the
>>>>>>    police sexual assualts in our communities & harrassment especially of young
>>>>>>    women)
>>>>>>    - that our mission now is to strive to prioritize the needs and
>>>>>>    issues of marginalized people within and without our collectivo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So from my perspective and my experience at the meetings I was able
>>>>>> to attend and the emails, Where did we ever say "chairs are omnipotent"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Communications temporarily banned one person for reasons of
>>>>>> disrespect.
>>>>>> Why was I banned from the Self-Defense Committee, and only told at
>>>>>> yesterday's meeting?
>>>>>> ....although I requested & emailed members of the committee at least
>>>>>> 2x for a meeting, and asked for meetings, that I attended one meeting, that
>>>>>> another woman expressed that she also had emailed the chair several times
>>>>>> without a response.
>>>>>> so for me, this speaks to Chair's unilateral decision-making.
>>>>>> Why did the other members of the Self-Defense Committee went with
>>>>>> this decision without at least consulting those of us excluded?
>>>>>> so trust is out the door already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also felt that the chairing of the meeting was heavily weighed in
>>>>>> favor of "keep to the agenda", "moving forward", "we need to get to work"
>>>>>> (quotes). I abstained on several votes because again the procedural rules
>>>>>> were unclear, and seemed arbitrarily enforced.  We are all learning for
>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>> I want to add some questions to the meeting committee & will share
>>>>>> those with you all too. Can we also clearly tell people what the rules are
>>>>>> at the beginning?  And a supportive process for disagreement to resolve
>>>>>> differences, or at least deal with them?  One that supports emotional
>>>>>> well-being as well as group solidarity?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was also surprised at how long it took us to agree that of course
>>>>>> people who are not delegates but are part of the CRSD are welcome to
>>>>>> delegate meetings...open meetings for me are an essential part of
>>>>>> power-sharing.
>>>>>> I completely support closed sessions when needed, but only when
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I completely support our points of unity and now want practice in
>>>>>> spirit what we wrote.
>>>>>> Will decisions be inclusive, processes open, differences explained
>>>>>> and how we hold meetings incorporate various practices that include
>>>>>> time/space/ways for airing differences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the parts of this Colectivo I really loved was the long
>>>>>> meetings/social hour so we can get to know one another. I spoke glowingly
>>>>>> of it at another meeting on Saturday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's keep that spirit alive, by working through differences using
>>>>>> proven circles of support/reflection/empathy to resolve this conflict.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peace Resource Center is hosting restorative peace circles for the
>>>>>> March saturdays 10am-noon, for those of us who need breathing spaces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It also has numerous resources on restorative practices, and
>>>>>> incorporating inclusive common ground guides for multi-ethnic, gender,
>>>>>> generational, differential abled, gatherings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Mickey Smith <
>>>>>> mickey.h.smith at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First off, that's a mischaracterization of the proposals being
>>>>>>> discussed at the meeting and of the summary of past business that was
>>>>>>> given. Second, everyone attending the meeting was to avoid discussing
>>>>>>> details on email because of the highly surveiled nature of email in
>>>>>>> general, as well as Google's enthusiastic support for the PRISM program
>>>>>>> going into a strong upsurge in reactionary violence. I strongly recommend
>>>>>>> people who intend on carrying out security work avoid talking so cavalierly
>>>>>>> about planned or unplanned activities, but that aside, ill ask you to
>>>>>>> refrain from speaking on matters you simply weren't present for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2017 9:59 AM, "Anne Barron" <anne at prcsd.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear intersectional friends,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i see them pretty much inter-related, and that we need to think
>>>>>>>> about strategically matching fundraising, different types of community
>>>>>>>> self-defense (which I see in a much broader scope).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also want to check in with the larger Collective to see what/how
>>>>>>>> we as a group define community self-defense.  there was a lot of discussion
>>>>>>>> at the last Defense Committee about what the Collective meant by
>>>>>>>> self-defense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I remember us talking about several layers of mutual self-defense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our Teach-in discussion yesterday at the Peace Resource Center
>>>>>>>> reinforces this idea for me- that the system forces us to depend on it.  We
>>>>>>>> need to return to a village reality, where the village is the community
>>>>>>>> self-defense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so I will be there at noon, for anyone who wants to flesh out CRSD
>>>>>>>> community self-defense.  I just am seeing a bigger picture than stand-off
>>>>>>>> with local law enforcements during rallies/marches.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Bo Elder <belder76 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll be there at 12noon tomorrow!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm glad the fundraising was a success, and I think we should keep
>>>>>>>>> doing that sort of thing, but I agree with Ryan that that should be the
>>>>>>>>> purview of a fundraising committee.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Ryan Stray <
>>>>>>>>> ryanstraysd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I see a lot of these proposals as being outside the scope of the
>>>>>>>>>> Defense Committee. While it's true that things like housing, bond, food,
>>>>>>>>>> etc are things that the Defense Committee could work on, there is already a
>>>>>>>>>> housing committee (or at least one proposed), a legal committee, and other
>>>>>>>>>> orgs involved in Defense and CR as a whole have overlapping projects along
>>>>>>>>>> these same lines as well. I'm opposed to mission creep in one committee at
>>>>>>>>>> the expense of others.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2017 8:42 PM, "Anne Barron" <anne at prcsd.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear comrades interested in self-defense & Rapid Response.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's meet at noon tomorrow before the CRSD general meeting to
>>>>>>>>>>> talk/review where we are...I am so in awe of Bo's use of GoFundMe to
>>>>>>>>>>> generate the needed funds to pay off the remaining bails from November 9th
>>>>>>>>>>> (and many thanks to those of you who contributed).
>>>>>>>>>>> So I would also like to add fundraising to our committee work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> see ya!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:50 PM, justin hewgill <
>>>>>>>>>>> jhewgill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The next meeting committee adjusted the agenda based on folks
>>>>>>>>>>>> feed back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the new agenda: https://docs.google.co
>>>>>>>>>>>> m/document/d/1cBSgbuXjO8YGUM8wHR8JMTUhag7GLewykLHVMqJxhjY/ed
>>>>>>>>>>>> it?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We will NOT be meeting this evening, given that we already got
>>>>>>>>>>>> this together.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember we are meeting at *1pm, this Sunday*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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