[Sdalliance] Open Letter to May 1st Coalition

[Tanner Smith]

Just a reminder, and speaking from Communications Committee.  This listserv
is strictly for discussing business of CRSD.  It is not an appropriate
forum for debate.  This particular conversation needs to wrap up in this
space.  Please email me if you have any questions.

Tanner

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Rafael Bautista <rafadaone at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Fred, I am not sure if you are aware but this  is a list serv for SD
> Collective Resistance, not SDAJ.  Either way, this liberal ideology that is
> plaguing people on the "left" is very worrisome.  Here we have an adopted
> points of unity that explicitly states that we are anti-sexist but we have
> Fred talking about some kind of situation that is up for debate.  This is
> not up for debate.  Yes, It will carry its due process in the courts but
> people are already aware of the events.  Not only because the allegations
> come from very credible and incredible women, but because we have seen time
> and time again the tactics of petty bourgois bosses.  Mickey is a union
> boss that has sided with the wealthy time and time again, usually for
> self-gain.
>
> The letter also mentions Genoveva, who comrades have been suppressed by.
> I am actually even more disappointed when people who can make a difference,
> like Fred who is a delegate to the Labor Council (from UC/AFT Local 2034;
> not coming out in support of the workers who are being abused by corrupt
> union bosses.
>
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> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Fred Lonidier <pres2034 at san.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Rya,
>> I am on the SDAJ listserve as a member so the emails about May 1 and the
>> matter of Kasparian came to me that way.  It seems related to planning for
>> May 1.  I am a delegate to the Labor Council (from UC/AFT Local 2034) which
>> endorsed SEIU's plans.  I signed up to work on that event.  The matter of
>> allegations is very serious but very hard to weigh in on without evidence
>> or witnesses which can come to some adjudicating body, either internal to
>> the UFCW, the CLC and/or the law.  The labor movement has had to be very
>> diligent about due process as, in relations with employers, we have nothing
>> without it and supervisors, owners and even other workers can make all
>> kinds of claims which, without due process, can and has caused enormous
>> damage to workers and our unions.  It is distressing to see the pickets and
>> read the allegations but, at the same time, hard to take a stand on without
>> the weight of evidence.  And I am aware that all kinds of acts against
>> vulnerable people never get justice because they occur out of the sight of
>> others willing to come forward.
>> Fred
>>
>> Cw rape
>>
>> I don't know who you are, and I don't think you came to any mass meeting
>> so i wonder how you got on this listserv, but I want to point out that (one
>> of the) allegation(s) about Mickey specifically involves pressuring his
>> staff into a sexual relationship. A claim of due process might mean
>> something in a world where UFCW or any local or national labor body as
>> investigating. But UFCW and the Labor Council have chosen not to, and there
>> is no criminal case, and as such there is no possibility of due process
>> from any body that could pass judgement.
>>
>> There are multiple claims from multiple female staff members of the UFCW.
>> What is it that leads you to side eye these women who are coming forward in
>> a climate that deligitimizes their claims inside the very union they fought
>> for, not to mention society at large? Why are you siding with a literal
>> boss in a clear harassment and discrimination case?
>>
>> Rya
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2017 8:38 PM, "Fred Lonidier" <pres2034 at san.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, Ryan, I think you want to be very careful here.  So far there are
>> allegations leveled at Kasparian and we see the pickets at the Delegate
>> meetings.  But he is entitled to due process and whether he "attacked his
>> workers" or not has yet to be established.  So far, he has the full
>> confidence of the CLC Executive Board and the Delegates.  At any rate, the
>> CLC is on board with May 1 as it is being headed up by SEIU.
>> My laptop is pretty old so I don't seem to be able to access the letter
>> to which you refer.  Can you send it as an attachment?
>> Fred
>>
>> Mickey Kasparian is named in the letter explicitly, right? The man
>> attacked his workers.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
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