[Sdalliance] CRSD Meeting Sunday the 11th

Benny Tea organizer at voicesrally.org
Tue Jun 6 13:38:21 PDT 2017


thanks for clarifying Ryan and reminding me not to forward the email.

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Ryan Stray <ryanstraysd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to be clear, I'm not opposed to direct action workshops, the PRC, or
> ASD. My earlier statement was specifically regarding interactions a member
> of PRC staff had with CRSD and it's nascent Defense Committee, which they
> opposed strongly and attempted to ensure didn't actually do any trainings
> OR direct action. As a result of this, most actions that have been
> organized by members of CRSD have had to be performed outside the
> organization, hence why CRSD as an org has yet to be involved in direct
> action. However, a number of us are planning actions, such as at the
> upcoming anti-conversion therapy event.
>
> As for the specific trainings ASD and PRC are organizing, I'm in favor of
> individuals attending, but as i attempted to state in my last email,
> neither of these orgs have ratified any CRSD documents inside their
> organizations, and as such I don't see why we should move our Delegate
> meeting to prevent overlap. I am in favor of CRSD attempting to avoid
> schedule overlaps in the future however.
>
> As an aside, emails inside this listserv should not be forwarded outside
> it, as per the Communication Committee charter. I'm leaving those that were
> already added to this email chain however, in an attempt to be clear that
> my earlier comments were not opposed to the two orgs cosponsoring or
> individuals running this event.
>
> Ryan Stray
> Organizing Committee
> Party for Socialism and Liberation - San Diego
>
> On Jun 6, 2017 1:11 PM, "Benny Tea" <organizer at voicesrally.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ryan,
>>
>> When I wrote "we need folks..." I was speaking collectively as a society.
>> I was not trying to say the PRC is trying to recruit folks into their
>> org....  It should also be noted that ASD and PRC as non-profits can't
>> *lead* CD...so we're not trying to "own" any sort of direct action, we are
>> interested in cultivating knowledge in this domain and connect people for
>> direct action.
>>
>> I personally would like this workshop to be supportive for the actions
>> that different groups are already interested in doing.
>>
>> This is cosponsored by ASD and PRC.  I'm with ASD, but I'll speak for
>> myself.    I support everything CRSD is doing and the vision, etc...I
>> haven't been attending your meetings lately because to my knowledge I
>> haven't seen any direct action planned from the group.  As soon as I become
>> aware that CRSD is doing direct action, I will jump all in, because I align
>> with the values that CRSD presented.
>>
>> I haven't personally heard anyone say they are opposed to CRSD's defense
>> work.  But again, I'm not aware of any action being taken by CRSD...please
>>  do inform us/me of what sort of things you all are doing.  I know there's
>> security issues, but I think they can at least be spoken to vaguely in the
>> same way we have declared the CD workshop.   I think everyone's intention
>> is to work together, not divide efforts.
>>
>> sincerely,
>> Benny
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Ryan Stray <ryanstraysd at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Without a formalization of the calendar proposal and without PRC or the
>>> sponsoring org being in CRSD, I don't see the grounds for shifting a
>>> meeting multiple orgs have been attending regularly. Personally, with how
>>> PRC decided to try and hamstring CRSD's own defense committee for a while,
>>> I also don't see why we should. That's my own issue, and I don't mean to
>>> make it primary, but without an explanation on why they're down with their
>>> own defense work and opposed to ours I don't see grounds for support.
>>>
>>> Ryan Stray
>>> Organizing Committee
>>> Party for Socialism and Liberation - San Diego
>>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2017 12:35 PM, "Benny Tea" <organizer at voicesrally.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,  Could you make your meeting before or after the Civil
>>>> Disobedience Workshop at PRC? Maybe, we could setup the alliance meeting at
>>>> PRC so people can easily attend both?
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/304641216658653/
>>>>
>>>> We need folks that are willing to elevate the level of direct action in
>>>> San Diego.  If you are someone that feels compelled by this, please RSVP
>>>> with Darwin.
>>>>
>>>> sincerely,
>>>> Benny
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:08 PM, justin hewgill <jhewgill at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Council decided at the last meeting we would meet again on June
>>>>> 11th. Time and place TBA. Keep in mind we are still looking for committees
>>>>> to bring their protocols to the council to be ratified.
>>>>>
>>>>> In solidarity,
>>>>> J
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