[Sdalliance] CRSD Meeting Sunday the 11th

Ryan Stray ryanstraysd at gmail.com
Tue Jun 6 13:31:19 PDT 2017


Just to be clear, I'm not opposed to direct action workshops, the PRC, or
ASD. My earlier statement was specifically regarding interactions a member
of PRC staff had with CRSD and it's nascent Defense Committee, which they
opposed strongly and attempted to ensure didn't actually do any trainings
OR direct action. As a result of this, most actions that have been
organized by members of CRSD have had to be performed outside the
organization, hence why CRSD as an org has yet to be involved in direct
action. However, a number of us are planning actions, such as at the
upcoming anti-conversion therapy event.

As for the specific trainings ASD and PRC are organizing, I'm in favor of
individuals attending, but as i attempted to state in my last email,
neither of these orgs have ratified any CRSD documents inside their
organizations, and as such I don't see why we should move our Delegate
meeting to prevent overlap. I am in favor of CRSD attempting to avoid
schedule overlaps in the future however.

As an aside, emails inside this listserv should not be forwarded outside
it, as per the Communication Committee charter. I'm leaving those that were
already added to this email chain however, in an attempt to be clear that
my earlier comments were not opposed to the two orgs cosponsoring or
individuals running this event.

Ryan Stray
Organizing Committee
Party for Socialism and Liberation - San Diego

On Jun 6, 2017 1:11 PM, "Benny Tea" <organizer at voicesrally.org> wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
>
> When I wrote "we need folks..." I was speaking collectively as a society.
> I was not trying to say the PRC is trying to recruit folks into their
> org....  It should also be noted that ASD and PRC as non-profits can't
> *lead* CD...so we're not trying to "own" any sort of direct action, we are
> interested in cultivating knowledge in this domain and connect people for
> direct action.
>
> I personally would like this workshop to be supportive for the actions
> that different groups are already interested in doing.
>
> This is cosponsored by ASD and PRC.  I'm with ASD, but I'll speak for
> myself.    I support everything CRSD is doing and the vision, etc...I
> haven't been attending your meetings lately because to my knowledge I
> haven't seen any direct action planned from the group.  As soon as I become
> aware that CRSD is doing direct action, I will jump all in, because I align
> with the values that CRSD presented.
>
> I haven't personally heard anyone say they are opposed to CRSD's defense
> work.  But again, I'm not aware of any action being taken by CRSD...please
>  do inform us/me of what sort of things you all are doing.  I know there's
> security issues, but I think they can at least be spoken to vaguely in the
> same way we have declared the CD workshop.   I think everyone's intention
> is to work together, not divide efforts.
>
> sincerely,
> Benny
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Ryan Stray <ryanstraysd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Without a formalization of the calendar proposal and without PRC or the
>> sponsoring org being in CRSD, I don't see the grounds for shifting a
>> meeting multiple orgs have been attending regularly. Personally, with how
>> PRC decided to try and hamstring CRSD's own defense committee for a while,
>> I also don't see why we should. That's my own issue, and I don't mean to
>> make it primary, but without an explanation on why they're down with their
>> own defense work and opposed to ours I don't see grounds for support.
>>
>> Ryan Stray
>> Organizing Committee
>> Party for Socialism and Liberation - San Diego
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2017 12:35 PM, "Benny Tea" <organizer at voicesrally.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,  Could you make your meeting before or after the Civil
>>> Disobedience Workshop at PRC? Maybe, we could setup the alliance meeting at
>>> PRC so people can easily attend both?
>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/304641216658653/
>>>
>>> We need folks that are willing to elevate the level of direct action in
>>> San Diego.  If you are someone that feels compelled by this, please RSVP
>>> with Darwin.
>>>
>>> sincerely,
>>> Benny
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:08 PM, justin hewgill <jhewgill at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> The Council decided at the last meeting we would meet again on June
>>>> 11th. Time and place TBA. Keep in mind we are still looking for committees
>>>> to bring their protocols to the council to be ratified.
>>>>
>>>> In solidarity,
>>>> J
>>>>
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