[Sdalliance] 10 Jan UPDATED Points of Unity

[Angela Risi]

I will add education into point 4. Thanks for bringing that to attention!

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Monty Kroopkin <mkroopkin at juno.com> wrote:

> Also, I meant no slight to non-ML Marxists, social democrats, democratic
> socialists, by not bringing them up before. But, clearly, those who think a
> parliamentary pathway is important are committed to working with the
> hierarchical state structures which exist, regardless of how much they may
> also believe such structures should be abolished.
>
> The draft is showing a lot of thought and work. I wonder if the way we
> talk about colonization or colonialism is as sharp as we might get it, yet.
> On the one hand, most of the focus there historically has been about
> Western European (and derivative settler colony) aggression and empire.
> However, there are other peoples with a stake in the colonization issue.
> The Russian Empire expanded eastward to the Pacific and the current Russian
> state still controls many colonized populations. How do we talk about
> national liberation movements there, such as in Chechnya? Or, what
> about how we talk about Kurdish national liberation within Turkey?
>
> Also, I suggest we move the points about environmental sanity up to the
> top of the list and separate climate change out from other environmental
> and conservation issues.
>
> mk
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
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>
> I second Monty on this. Thanks for writing that up.
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Monty Kroopkin <mkroopkin at juno.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Brandon, all,
>>
>> As much as I and others of self-described libertarian left tendencies
>> agree with 'opposition to hierarchy' or agree with another term which we
>> have heard raised also, 'anti-authoritarian', we cannot expect to forge a
>> working coalition of the type we are attempting if we insist on such terms.
>> Organizations and individuals who believe some form of 'democratic
>> centralism' is a core principle for themselves are likely to regard some
>> forms of hierarchy as a good thing. Therefore, this could be a splitter
>> issue and it could be objectively a sectarian and divisive stance to push
>> to have it be included in points of unity.
>>
>> mk
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
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>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Not sure if this is the medium for bring up an observation I have with a
>> specific point, but shouldn't point 4 also contain access to free education
>> as a human right too? Another observation (though perhaps it's implied with
>> "self-determination and liberation" throughout it all) is a point regarding
>> our opposition to hierarchy.
>>
>> Solidarity,
>> B
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Angela Risi <ang.mar.ris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Here are the UPDATED Points of Unity as of January 10th, 2017.
>>>
>>> In solidarity,
>>>
>>> Angela
>>>
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