[Sdalliance] My schedule for January 20th.

Wed Jan 4 16:29:30 PST 2017

Hi Eric:

Thanks, I did see that, but the reason i called this particular instance
out is that this brings up a larger issue of who has access to our listserv
and whether or not our listserv should be moderated...can we add this to
the communications meeting agenda?

Thanks,

Yesenia

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Eric Chamberlin <grshado at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yesenia,
>
> If you look carefully you will see that Monty, like you, and like me is
> responding to a post that was originally intended for San Diego Alliance
> for Justice but was sent to our list by mistake. A big mistake it is too
> because you are absolutely right about the language!  I was sceptical about
> the SDAFJ before I'm now repulsed.
>
> Eric
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Yesenia Padilla <yeseniatpadilla at gmail.com>
> *To:* Monty Kroopkin <mkroopkin at juno.com>
> *Cc:* Sdalliance at lists.resist.ca
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 4, 2017 4:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Sdalliance] My schedule for January 20th.
>
> Monty:
>
> This email you've just shared on the Alliance listserv contains
> anti-Mexican language that is deeply inappropriate and should under no
> circumstances be expressed in this space. Please explain what this is all
> about, and what it's doing here, in all of our inboxes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Yesenia
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Monty Kroopkin <mkroopkin at juno.com> wrote:
>
> Fellow Worker Fred,
>
> The original post by *Allen C. Morse III was to *ResistTrump_J20 resisttrump_j20 at googlegroups.
> com <resisttrump_j20 at googlegroups.com>  which is the group listserv for
> the San Diego Alliance for Justice (SDAFJ), that has been meeting on
> Mondays.  I think that that is where you meant to respond. You responded to
> the listserv Sdalliance at lists.resist.ca  which is for the 'left
> allliance' that has been meeting on Sundays and which still has no name.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
>
>
>
> To: 5540al at gmail.com
> From: Fred Lonidier <pres2034 at san.rr.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 15:04:17 -0800
> Cc: Sdalliance at lists.resist.ca
> Subject: [Sdalliance] My schedule for January 20th.
>
>
>
> I like the morning event at 10:30am at *City College* very much but am
> not going to attend the event at *Chicano Park*. You guys just don't
> realize that this event will be only about Mexicans and saving Mexican
> jobs! The labor unions will be there because they want to preserve the
> status quo and be able to pay cheap labor. Unfortunately, this is what must
> change in America and I have no interest in supporting that at all!
> *Your reference to the labor movement does not make any sense; unions
> don't "pay" wages, businesses do. �I don't think you know anything about
> the Justice for Janitors campaign by SEIU or HERE (hotel & restaurant
> workers) or the United Domestic Workers fights for union contracts for
> higher wages, benefits and grievance procedures. �Unions have backed the
> $15 per hour here and all over the country. �Also here, the labor movement
> with its allies on the City Council got improvements for taxi drivers.
> �Most of these campaigns and many others involve immigrant workers from
> many countries including Mexico.*
> *Fred Lonidier*
> *UC/AFT Local 2034 past president*
> *Labor Council Delegate*
>
> I am somewhat concerned the direction this group has taken and when I sat
> on the J20 planning subcommittee, I felt that what I had to say was cut off
> and summarily dismissed by those trying to dominate the committee. What
> bothered me most was things that were voted down by that committee suddenly
> showed up back off the table again because the "dominators" didn't like it!
> Also work done by people who put time and care in was just summarily
> rejected. As a consequence, there's a flyer out there I DO NOT like at all!
>
> This is the 4th of January and still there is no finalized agenda from
> what I understand. Time's a wasting folks, this needs to be done already
> and instead it's discuss and argue, nothing is being accomplished! It's
> DISTRESSING for an action person like myself! I am so disappointed I
> decided not to attend any meetings this week. I'm seriously considering
> whether to even stay with this group or just strike out on my own on
> January 20th. There are some other groups that have a great agenda and are
> doing some pretty good stuff that I might join up with.
>
> I would like to enlighten everyone concerning a "safe protest". Do you
> think we'll be the only ones out there? Donald Trump supporters, which
> includes a large amount of SDPD are going to be out there looking for a
> fight! We should not expect a smooth sail, but instead be prepared for a
> very rough ride and be very happy if it doesn't happen! The Donald Trump
> supporters will be spoiling for a fight at *Chicano Park,* this should be
> expected, and SDPD might just stand back and let it happen! Therefore,
> informing SDPD what we're doing might be a big mistake and make us targets
> to be picked off! We should not inform the SDPD what we're doing...no, no,
> no!
>
> -*Allen C. Morse III*
> *5540al at gmail.com <5540al at gmail.com>*
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