From resist at resist.ca Fri Nov 8 09:10:18 2002 From: resist at resist.ca (resist at resist.ca) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:10:18 -0800 Subject: [news] Pivot news: Woodwards Protestors win in Supreme Court Message-ID: <20021108171018.GC16776@resist.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: Pivot Legal Society To: list at pivotlegal.org Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Pivot news: Woodwards Protestors win in Supreme Court Press Release For Immediate Release November 7, 2002 BC Housing Corporation ordered to pay costs after dropping contempt proceedings against Woodwards Protestors Justice Janice Dillon of the B.C. Supreme Court today ordered the Provincial Rental Housing Corporation, which owns the historic Woodwards building, to pay legal costs to counsel for the Woodwards protestors and the protestors themselves after the Housing Corporation abruptly decided to discontinue contempt proceedings against the 54 defendants. The "Woodwards 54" had been charged with contempt of court after occupying the vacant Woodwards building, as part of a protest for housing for the many homeless people in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside. The Woodwards defendants cheered when Justice Dillon handed down her judgment, which ordered the Housing Corporation pay $100 to each person who appeared in court as well as the legal costs of the three pro bono lawyers that appeared on their behalf. The discontinuance ended seven weeks of anxiety and uncertainty on the part of the protestors, whose legal defence committee has been desperately raising money to pay for lawyers after the Legal Services Society refused to provide funding for legal counsel. "This is a victory for social housing, and a victory for poor and marginalized people," said Calvin Woida, an organizer with the Woodwards Legal Defence Committee and one on of the 54 defendants, "But we cannot be complacent. We will not stop fighting until everyone has a home." The decision to discontinue the proceedings followed unsuccessful eleventh hour negotiations between the Housing Corporation and the Ministry of the Attorney General, whom the Housing Corporation had asked to take over the proceedings by filing criminal contempt charges against the protestors. Robert Kuhn, who appeared on behalf of the Housing Corporation, stated that the Corporation was unwilling to proceed independently to prosecute the people that the Corporation was legally mandated to serve. "I believe today's decision has renewed the faith of many poor people in the judicial process," said Pivot Legal Society lawyer John Richardson, who represented a number of the protestors, "And it is a lesson to government bodies that use injunctions to silence and punish people who raise legitimate political issues." Pivot lawyers John Richardson and Noah Quastel were joined by well-known lawyer Cameron Ward in arguing that costs should be awarded against the Housing Corporation for failing to properly serve materials and documents, and by failing to provide adequate notice of their intention to discontinue the proceeding. In awarding costs, Justice Dillon rejected arguments from the Housing Corporation that such an award would be unprecedented. Dillon found that it is a normal rule of civil procedure that a party who discontinues should be liable for the legal costs incurred by those called on to defend against it even when the reasons for discontinuing are political, rather than legal. The City of Vancouver is going to Supreme Court on November 19 and 20 to seek an injunction and financial compensation from the protestors camped on the sidewalk outside the Woodwards building. For more information, contact: Calvin Woida: (604) 879-0017 John Richardson: (604) 742-1843 ====================================== Pivot is a non-profit society dedicated to advancing the interests of the most marginalized persons in society, in particular illegal drug users and sex trade workers, through legal education, strategic litigation, and law reform. For more information about Pivot visit www.pivotlegal.org Donations can be sent to: Pivot Legal Society 2985 W. 14th Ave. Vancouver, B.C. V6K 2X5 Members of this list receive Pivot notices and minutes of Pivot meetings. To subscribe to the list, send an email to subscribe at pivotlegal.org To unsubscribe from the list, send an email to unsubscribe at pivotlegal.org ----- End forwarded message ----- From pat_wobbly at hotmail.com Sat Nov 9 16:59:35 2002 From: pat_wobbly at hotmail.com (Pat S) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 16:59:35 -0800 Subject: [news] Argentina: Worker control breathes life into ailing factories Message-ID: Another idea that we have to bring back into style: Worker control (this year's 2003 IWW calendar explores this theme a bit). Worker control breathes life into ailing factories November 9 2002 http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/08/1036308479390.html Reed Lindsay reports from Buenos Aires on a rare - and controversial - success story amid the ruins of Argentina's economy. For nearly a year, the workers at the Grissinopoli bread stick factory saw their weekly salary steadily decline from 150 pesos to 100 and then to 40. Finally, on June 3, with the firm headed for bankruptcy, the workers demanded recompense. The plant manager offered 10 pesos to each of the 14 employees, and asked them to leave the factory. They didn't budge. "He closed the shutters, and we stayed inside," said Norma Pintos, 49, who has worked at the factory, in the middle-class Chacarita neighbourhood, for 11 years. "We just wanted to keep coming to work." But what began as a last-ditch effort to save their jobs, or at the very least to receive some back wages, turned into a dogged effort to gain control of the factory. The workers began taking turns guarding the factory 24 hours a day, surviving by asking for spare change at the public university and selling empanadas, chorizos and home-made bread on the street. Four months later, the city legislature expropriated the factory and handed it over to the workers. In October, Grissinopoli began producing bread sticks again. In little more than a year, workers have seized control of scores of foundering factories across Argentina. Even more remarkable than the takeovers has been the worker-led resuscitation of the factories, which in some cases are doing better than under their previous ownerships. Apart from saving thousands of jobs and softening the precipitous decline of the nation's once formidable industrial production, the factory takeovers are defying hard-and-fast notions about the relationship between capital and labour. They have also begun to alarm conservatives, who view them as a threatening private property rights. But in this crisis-laden nation of 37million, where more than half the population is below the poverty line and 34per cent of the workforce is unemployed or underemployed, the workers have won government sanction and strong public support. As darkness descends over the murky Riachuelo River that marks Buenos Aires' southern boundary, the nearby Ghelco ice-cream factory still hums with activity. Men in green uniforms mop floors while others sort papers in the front office. In February, the owners of the factory, once the nation's leading maker of the flavoured powder used in making ice-cream, locked the doors and soon afterwards filed for bankruptcy. The workers, who were owed the equivalent of thousands of dollars in back wages and benefits, were left to fend for themselves as they awaited the outcome of a long and uncertain legal process. At the urging of Luis Caro, a lawyer who has represented some 40 occupied factories, the workers formed a co-operative and mounted a permanent protest in front of the factory, preventing attempts to remove any equipment or inventory. After three months the bankruptcy judge allowed them temporarily to rent the factory. In September, the Buenos Aires legislature expropriated Ghelco - the first seizure of its kind in the city - and handed the keys to the co-operative. Now 43 of Ghelco's former employees, all of whom worked on the factory floor, run the company. While they say they enjoy working for themselves, bringing the company back to life has not been easy. Many are working 12-hour days as they juggle new managerial or administrative duties with their former production posts. "Before, when it was time to leave, we were out the door ... now, it's nine at night and we're still here," said Claudia Pea, who labels containers and cleans the bathrooms when she is not greeting customers and clients as a receptionist. Across the Riachuelo in the province of Buenos Aires, business is booming for the 54 members of the Union and Force Co-operative, who occupied a metallurgical plant for six months before securing legal control through an expropriation last year. The workers are earning more than twice as much as they did as employees and are set to take on 20 new members, almost all of them sons of current workers. With demand high for their copper and brass pipes and taps, they are expanding the plant and have plans to export their products. The workers are as surprised as anyone else at the factory's success. "The fellows still think this is all a dream," said the co-operative's president, Roberto Salcedo, 49. "Nowadays if you lose your job you know that you aren't going to find work again, and much less at our age." If shrewd industrialists with an open credit line ran these companies into bankruptcy, how can worker-controlled co-operatives with no capital and no business experience be thriving during the worst economic slump in Argentina's history? Having the books wiped clean of old debts has not hurt. But more important, the workers say, are the profits freed by eliminating the owners' hefty take and the higher salaries paid to managerial staff. As in most of the occupied factories, the Union and Force Co-operative has an egalitarian pay scale. Decisions are made by direct vote in regular assemblies and each worker earns the same, based on the previous week's profits. Caro estimates that workers have taken over 100 factories and other businesses nationwide. While most takeovers have been at factories, they have also included a supermarket, a medical clinic, a Patagonian mine and a Buenos Aires shipyard. Often, the owners have struck a deal whereby the workers take over production in exchange for payment of rent or forgiving back wages or benefits. Other factories are still in a state of legal limbo. But the ultimate aim for many worker-controlled factories is expropriation. In the past two years, 17 factories have been expropriated in the province of Buenos Aires and in recent months three in the capital. Provincial and city legislators are drafting bills that would create a government agency to assist in the formation of co-operatives and facilitate the expropriation of bankrupt companies to hand them to the workers. However, dissent is brewing among influential economic interests, and as a result political support for expropriations may be waning, said Beatriz Baltroc, a Buenos Aires city legislator who has been a leading proponent of the expropriations. While the first two expropriations in the capital were approved unanimously by the city legislature, the centre-right Radical Party has since reversed its position, refusing to vote on the expropriation of Grissinopoli. "The property of the owners is being ignored in order to transfer it to the employees. This is not an expropriation, it is a confiscation," said Gregorio Badeni, a constitutional lawyer. "Expropriations can only be declared in cases of public benefit. In these cases there is no public benefit. There is benefit for 20 or 30 people." But with local support for the factory-occupying workers strong, authorities have had little success removing them by force. In March, about 200 people from neighbourhood assemblies and human rights groups converged on the worker-controlled Brukman textile factory, forcing the retreat of 70 riot police who were acting on a judge's order to reclaim the property. "The idea that a capitalist is needed to organise production is being demystified," said Christian Castillo, a sociology professor at the University of Buenos Aires. "If things improve economically, this movement perhaps may fade away. But the idea of worker control is out there." _______________________________________________ Iww-list mailing list Iww-list at lists.iww.org https://lists.iww.org/mailman/listinfo/iww-list _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bcchrp at telus.net Wed Nov 20 02:22:00 2002 From: bcchrp at telus.net (BCCHRP) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 02:22:00 -0800 Subject: [news] Leading Philippines human rights advocate to address national conference Message-ID: For immediate release November 18, 2002 Leading Philippines human rights advocate to address national conference (Vancouver, Canada) ? Leading Philippines human rights advocate and former political prisoner, Marie Hilao-Enriquez, is set to address a national conference in Vancouver to mark International Human Rights Day. Continuing our Journey in Solidarity: Towards Human Rights and a Just and Lasting Peace in the Philippines will take place at Shaughnessy Heights United Church, 1550 W. 33rd Avenue, Vancouver, from the evening of December 6, 2002 to December 7, 2002. The B.C. Committee for Human Rights in the Philippines (BCCHRP) is hosting the conference. Other organizations, including the BC Conference of the United Church (Global and Societal Ministries), have also endorsed the conference. Hilao-Enriquez heads the national alliance of human rights organizations in the Philippines called KARAPATAN (Alliance for the Advancement of People?s Rights). Formed in 1995, Karapatan includes over forty member organizations from around the Philippines. The alliance has worked tirelessly to document human rights violations, promote freedom for political prisoners, expose and oppose militarization and fascism, and to demand justice for victims of human rights violations. Karapatan recently criticized the Philippine government of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo for being responsible for the disappearances of 14 individuals, many of whom were political critics and militant community leaders opposed to Arroyo's anti-people policies. ?We are the families and friends of the disappeared. We are those whose loved ones are believed to have been abducted, tortured, or even killed by the military in previous and present governments,? said Hilao-Enriquez in a press statement. ?The government has time and again shown a lack of moral courage in excorcizing its past and present demons. The disappearances, all acts of terrorism perpetrated by the government, must immediately be put to a stop.? Hilao-Enriquez, a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship, also headed recent fact-finding missions to Mindanao, the heavily-militarized area of the Southern Philippines. Since January 2001, over 4,000 U.S. troops have been deployed to the Philippines, opening up the second front in the U.S.-led ?war against terrorism.? The fact-finding missions exposed the impacts of militarization upon the civilian population in the area. In addition, Hilao-Enriquez is a leading figure in the landmark class action suit of human rights victims against the Marcos family. She was also nominated as an independent observer to the Joint Monitoring Committee that was to be set up under recently-stalled peace negotiations between the National Democratic Front of the Philippines (NDFP) and the Government of the Republic of the Philippines (GRP). BCCHRP urges people to register for the conference to learn about the current situation in the Philippines and join in solidarity with the Filipino people in their ongoing struggle for human rights, sovereignty and a just and lasting peace. -30- For further information or to set up interviews, please contact Ted Alcuitas, BCCHRP Media Contact at 604.215.1905 or by E-mail at bcchrp at telus.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaggi at vcn.bc.ca Thu Nov 21 02:02:13 2002 From: jaggi at vcn.bc.ca (Jaggi Singh) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 02:02:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [news] Four Upcoming Trials: An appeal for your solidarity and support (Montreal/Quebec City) Message-ID: [Pour la version francaise de cet appel, svp contactez jaggi at tao.ca] November 21, 2002 MONTREAL Dear Friends, This letter is an appeal for your support and solidarity to help defend myself against various criminal charges that I will be facing, along with various co-accused, in the upcoming months. The charges -- which will be judged at four separate trials -- are related to political protest activity in Montreal and Quebec City, dating back to October 2000. I have pleaded not guilty in all cases, and have refused any deals with the crown. I am facing possible prison time, as well as severely restrictive conditions, if convicted of the charges. In the two trials that will take place before juries, the crown attorneys have already indicated they are seeking a prison penalty of several months. I have already spent a total of 20 days in prison before getting bail in two of these cases (17 days in Quebec City, and 3 days in Montreal). The four trials, described in more detail below, relate to three protests: i) the anti-G20 protests in Montreal in October 2000 in front of the Sheraton Hotel; ii) the anti-FTAA protests in Quebec City in April 2001; iii) an anti-war demonstration in Montreal in September 2001. Tangibly, the support I'm asking for is as follows: a) Witnesses: If you were present at any of these protests, and specifically observed my conduct and behaviour, you could be a useful witness in my defence. Please get in touch (contact info is included below). The trial descriptions below may help you remember the protests, some of which happened more than two years ago. b) Video Evidence: Any video footage from any of the protests outlined above that includes my participation could be very useful in my defence. Please get in touch as indicated below. c) $$$: For all of the charges I'm facing, I will be defending myself, with the occasional help of a legal advisor (who more-often-than-not works pro bono). To date, I have not raised any money for personal legal costs, having instead forwarded donation offers to the Quebec Legal Collective, or the G20 Defence Committee, and paying my personal costs out-of-pocket. However, as my trial dates get closer, I need to raise money independently. This personal legal fund will help pay for various costs in the preparation of my legal defense (photocopying, long distance phone calls, court motions) as well as travel expenses to and from Quebec City. Moreover, I may need to help subsidize the costs of various witnesses who will travel to Quebec City or Montreal (one key witness is from Chicago, for example). Any extra money from this fund will be donated to the defence of other political activists facing charges in the Montreal-area. The importance of money cannnot be underestimated in a legal defence, so please do contribute if you can. No sum is too small. d) Translation: During the preparation period prior to the trials, and during the trials, I will need occasional help translating, from English to French, various releases and communiques. e) Moral Support: If you can't be a witness, nor offer financial support, I still need your moral support. It's important for me to know that there is support out there. So, don't hesitate to send along notes of solidarity, and if you live in Montreal or Quebec City, please do attend the trials if you have the time. A packed courtroom makes a big difference. If you can help in any way, please contact me by e-mail at jaggi at tao.ca or leave a message by phone at 514-278-4533. E-mail is preferable. The four trials I am facing are: 1) G20 Trial in Superior Court (April 7-18, 2003, MONTREAL) --> Along with co-accused Jonathan Aspireault-Masse, I am facing the charge of "participation in a riot" relating to the anti-G20 protests in front of the Sheraton Hotel in Montreal on October 23, 2000. Originally, more than a dozen people were charged with rioting, but all charges were dropped except against Jonathan and me (there are still less serious charges to be faced in municipal court; see next section). The trial will be before a jury for two weeks in April. I was arrested on October 23, 2000, _after_ the protest, in a targeted arrest by the Montreal police. The police evidence against me claims that my anti-IMF speech riled up the crowd, and that I announced the possibility of medical assistance on the demo's sound system after the riot police and police calvary attacked the crowd. I am not actually accused of any _act_ in particular, except that I was present at what the police term a "riot". I have readily admitted to giving a speech, providing medical advice, as well as handing out flyers. 2) G20 Trial in Municipal Court (February 2003, MONTREAL) --> At least two dozen protesters are facing charges in municipal court for illegal assembly and mischief in relation to the same G20 protest as described above. The case is being heard before a judge in Municipal Court. The Municipal Court charges are less serious, but still important. The trial has already begun this past summer, and will continue on February 4-7, 17, 19, & 24-28 (2003). 3) Anti-war Protest Trial in Municipal Court (January 17, 2003, MONTREAL) --> On September 23, 2001, at least 1000 people gathered at the Norman Bethune Statue near Concordia University for an anti-war protest, in the racist aftermath of September 11. I spoke at this demonstration on a microphone, before marching to the Complexe Guy-Favreau. I was stopped by police after the demonstration, and briefly detained in a police cruiser and then released. Months later (in February 2002) I received a letter in the mail, indicating that I was to be charged for breaking my bail conditions from Quebec City: specifically, I am forbidden from using a megaphone anywhere in Canada, and I'm forbidden to be a "leader" (no joke, those are my actual conditions to this day). I knew my conditions well, which is why I announced at the beginning of my speech that I was using a "microphone", not a "megaphone". Anyhow, the police can't tell the difference, and I'm going to trial before a judge in January. 4) FTAA Trial in Superior Court (Spring 2003, QUEBEC CITY) --> I am still facing a trial related to my arrest in Quebec City on April 20, 2001. The case will go to trial sometime next spring, either crammed in between the trial dates above, or afterwards. I will get a date for trial by jury on January 13, 2003 in Quebec City. I am facing the charge of "participation in a riot". The "possession of a dangerous weapon" charge -- the teddy-bear launching catapult -- was quietly dropped. Still, I face up to six months in prison if convicted of the riot charge. Again, I will be actively defending myself against all charges, but need your help as indicated above. I also encourage people reading this e-mail to stay in touch with the Libertas Legal Collective (formerly known as Quebec Legal) about the many others still facing charges as a result of the anti-FTAA protests in April 2001. The Collective has a webpage at: http://www.quebeclegal.org. Thank you for reading this far, and thank you in advance for your support. In solidarity and struggle, Jaggi Singh, Montreal tel: 514-278-4533 e-mail: jaggi at tao.ca From nalcuitas at telus.net Wed Nov 20 02:18:34 2002 From: nalcuitas at telus.net (Ning Alcuitas) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 02:18:34 -0800 Subject: [news] Leading Philippines human rights advocate to address national conference Message-ID: For immediate release November 18, 2002 Leading Philippines human rights advocate to address national conference (Vancouver, Canada) ? Leading Philippines human rights advocate and former political prisoner, Marie Hilao-Enriquez, is set to address a national conference in Vancouver to mark International Human Rights Day. Continuing our Journey in Solidarity: Towards Human Rights and a Just and Lasting Peace in the Philippines will take place at Shaughnessy Heights United Church, 1550 W. 33rd Avenue, Vancouver, from the evening of December 6, 2002 to December 7, 2002. The B.C. Committee for Human Rights in the Philippines (BCCHRP) is hosting the conference. Other organizations, including the BC Conference of the United Church (Global and Societal Ministries), have also endorsed the conference. Hilao-Enriquez heads the national alliance of human rights organizations in the Philippines called KARAPATAN (Alliance for the Advancement of People?s Rights). Formed in 1995, Karapatan includes over forty member organizations from around the Philippines. The alliance has worked tirelessly to document human rights violations, promote freedom for political prisoners, expose and oppose militarization and fascism, and to demand justice for victims of human rights violations. Karapatan recently criticized the Philippine government of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo for being responsible for the disappearances of 14 individuals, many of whom were political critics and militant community leaders opposed to Arroyo's anti-people policies. ?We are the families and friends of the disappeared. We are those whose loved ones are believed to have been abducted, tortured, or even killed by the military in previous and present governments,? said Hilao-Enriquez in a press statement. ?The government has time and again shown a lack of moral courage in excorcizing its past and present demons. The disappearances, all acts of terrorism perpetrated by the government, must immediately be put to a stop.? Hilao-Enriquez, a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship, also headed recent fact-finding missions to Mindanao, the heavily-militarized area of the Southern Philippines. Since January 2001, over 4,000 U.S. troops have been deployed to the Philippines, opening up the second front in the U.S.-led ?war against terrorism.? The fact-finding missions exposed the impacts of militarization upon the civilian population in the area. In addition, Hilao-Enriquez is a leading figure in the landmark class action suit of human rights victims against the Marcos family. She was also nominated as an independent observer to the Joint Monitoring Committee that was to be set up under recently-stalled peace negotiations between the National Democratic Front of the Philippines (NDFP) and the Government of the Republic of the Philippines (GRP). BCCHRP urges people to register for the conference to learn about the current situation in the Philippines and join in solidarity with the Filipino people in their ongoing struggle for human rights, sovereignty and a just and lasting peace. -30- For further information or to set up interviews, please contact Ted Alcuitas, BCCHRP Media Contact at 604.215.1905 or by E-mail at bcchrp at telus.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat_wobbly at hotmail.com Thu Nov 21 05:45:51 2002 From: pat_wobbly at hotmail.com (Pat S) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 05:45:51 -0800 Subject: [news] MPs call for probe of Peltier extradition [Canada] Message-ID: MPs call for probe of Peltier extradition By KIM LUNMAN Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - Page A6 http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20021120/UPELTN /nat\ ional/national/nationalTheNationHeadline_temp/19/19/39/ OTTAWA -- The controversial case of Leonard Peltier resurfaced in the House of Commons yesterday after some MPs called on the federal government to hold a public inquiry into the native activist's extradition from Canada to the United States 26 years ago. NDP MP Bill Blaikie introduced a private member's bill calling for the return of Mr. Peltier to Canada. He was convicted in 1977 of murdering two agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation near Wounded Knee, S.D. "We believe this is an enduring stain on Canada's record as a country that values of human rights," Mr. Blaikie said. "Mr. Peltier was turned over to the FBI on the basis of evidence that is now known to be manufactured and it seems like the right thing for Canada to do is to try to make amends for having done this." Opposition MPs called on the federal government to hold an independent commission of inquiry into the circumstances that led to Mr. Peltier's extradition from Canada in 1976. He is currently serving two consecutive life sentences for the offences. There have been calls on Canada to intervene in the case in recent years since a key witness, Myrtle Poor Bear, revealed she made up evidence that was used in the extradition. Ms. Poor Bear told a privately commissioned legal inquiry she made up the story implicating Mr. Peltier under pressure from the FBI. The federal government maintained the extradition was handled properly after an internal review of the case by the Justice Department. But Justice Minister Martin Cauchon refused to comment yesterday. "It was something that took place a long time before me," he said. "My habit is not to comment on any extradition case, so it's going to be that way for that case as well." Canada's involvement goes back to February, 1976, when Mr. Peltier was arrested in a one-room schoolhouse in Hinton, Alta. He was arrested six months after FBI agents Jack Coler and Ronald Williams were killed on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation while investigating the theft of a pair of cowboy boots. The murders followed a gunfight between FBI agents and a group of about 50 natives. Mr. Peltier, a member of the American Indian Movement, acknowledged being present at the battle. A native also died. Canadian Alliance MP John Reynolds also joined Mr. Blaikie and the Leonard Peltier Defence Committee in Canada in calling for a public inquiry into Mr. Peltier's case. "I think there's some real questions that need to be asked," Mr. Reynolds said. "It seems to me, we sent him down there [to the United States] improperly." Warren Allmand, a former Liberal MP, has also joined the call for an inquiry, saying the extradition was flawed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hunter Gray [Hunterbear] www.hunterbear.org Protected by Na?shdo?i?ba?i? and Ohkwari' _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail