[mobglob-discuss] David Icke & Shared Vision

[RADICAL PRESS]

Hi Bella,

I don't take your advice as being rude but rather just honest. I'm also not
into stirring up an old pot of fish that's been sniffed enough already.
Actually it was a member of this list who made me aware of the supposed
contradiction in Garth Mullin's publishing his article in SV and the David
Icke ad. I will admit to a certain amount of satisfaction in seeing the
apparent discrepancy but it's not something I normally dwell on at this
point in the process.

The basis of the criticisms directed toward me and The Radical and
associated contributors has proven to be false. In particular I would refer
you to the accusations of anti-Semitism that arose out of the then current
criticism of the Zionist/Israeli's policies toward the Palestinians which
have all gained worldwide attention over the past 3 or so years. That is why
I made the reference in my little jab about "maturity" as it is sometimes
difficult for some people to admit that in the zealousness to a cause they
just might not recognize that others could possibly be seeing a little
further down the road than themselves.

To be quite honest I didn't even know who Garth was and how he fitted into
the scheme of things until it was pointed out. All the hullabaloo over Icke
was (in my mind) associated with Will Offley and Macdonald Stainsby and
Offley's slandering of me and countless others. Throughout those times I
can't recall Garth adding his boots to the foray although he may have.

Getting back though to SV and DI I still cannot for the life of me see the
big deal about SV accepting an ad from a speaker who is world renowned and
whose message basically is one of love and understanding coupled with humour
and political analysis that's broad ranging and to a degree New Age-ish. It
would be the same as attacking Jeff Rense whose very site hosted Offley's
misguided diatribe against me and others.

Because we were attacked first and defended ourselves (as any decent human
being would) is not something to regret. I said it back then and I will say
it again that all those who are working to change the current system ought
to have the awareness necessary to work together in a common spirit of
camaraderie rather than engaging in all the infighting for power and
leadership. 

So...when you say Bella that SV running an Icke ad is a concern for "many
people" I have to scratch my head and wonder who the heck you're referring
to. Many meaning many within the small, circumscribed group of Trotskyists
or International Socialists or many within the broad community of social
activists? If you mean the latter then I would appreciate knowing just how
you've come up with these figures.

namaste,

arthur topham
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Hi Arthur,

I don't mean to be rude, but I don't really want to be involved in this
discussion topic.  I was hoping that my last post would cool some jets and
keep the battle between you and Garth off the listserve, thats all.

But since I'm banging out an email anyway, here's what I think. Shared
Vision having Icke content is a concern for many people, SV is a respected
publication and they should know better. I'm sure folks will write to
their editors and tell them why.  If you haven't figured this out yet,
perhaps nothing's been learned from the listserve bullshit that went down
last year and previous to that.

Let's try to keep it real here.  Pointing fingers at Garth because SV
printed Icke content in the same issue as his article doesn't hold water
in the first place. If there's any finger pointing going on here it should
be directed at SV for their bad editorial decision, and to you, Arthur,
for stirring up the pot out of the blue.

These are my opinions for what they're worth. And that's all I'm going to
say about this topic. End of story.

Peace to all,
Bella


> Hi Bella,
>
> Good to see some faces on the list that I remember from the "'ol days".
>
> As I have just registered to the list I thought it appropriate to say
> hello
> to all members and add to what you said.
>
> I'm not sure Bella what you mean when you say that the "concern here is
> that
> Shared Vision has Icke content" and that it requires address. Perhaps you
> could explain further why SV carrying advertising for David Icke ought to
> be
> a concern? Personally I would be concerned if SV was carrying ads for the
> Canadian military or for other transnational corps who are destroying our
> environment and social infrastructure.
>
> namaste,
>
> arthur topham
>
>
>
> The last thing we need is to dredge this old and stale issue up once
> again. I think we all have a grasp on it already.  The concern here is
> that Shared Vision has Icke content, I think that's something to address,
> but can we leave the insult hurling out of it and move on ?
>
> Peace to all,
> Bella
>
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