[mobglob-discuss] Iraq

Thu Nov 14 04:40:38 PST 2002

For anyone who doesn't like all the bombing that's been going on lately 
(and some quotes):

Join
MASSIVE PEACE MARCH
To Say :
"No to War on Iraq"
Sunday
November 17th
12 noon-Start to gather at Peace Flame, Burrard & 1st ave
OR
Sea BusTerminal, Cordova & Richards
March to
Sunset Beach
for Rally with Music & speakers
2pm
Join a broad based group of people of conscience: community 
organizations, church groups, unions, students, peace activists, 
academics, professionals and many more in a massive peace march.
.
November 17th Peace Coalition:
BC Federation of Labour, Dr David Suzuki, Environmentalist, Anglican 
Diocese of New Westminster Justice and Peace Unit, Oxfam Canada, 
Physicians for Global Survival, Muslim Canadian Federation, Vancouver & 
District Labour Council, Campaign to End Sanctions Against the People of 
Iraq, Canadian Peace Alliance, CAW Canada, End the Arms Race, Coalition 
Against War on the People of Iraq, Canadian Federation of Students, 
Communist Party of Canada, Veterans Against Nuclear Arms, New Democratic 
Party, Council of Canadians (Vancouver Chapter), International 
Socialists, Justice Peace & Social Concerns Committee, Religious Society 
of Friends (Quakers), Youth For A Better World, ADALA - Canadian Arab 
Justice Committee, Anti-Poverty Committee, AMS Women's Centre, Women's 
International League for Peace and Freedom (BC), Coalition of 
Progressive Electors, Check Your Head, SFU Muslim Student Association, 
St Chiara Community, Vancouver Raging Grannies, Dr Fred Bass City 
Councilor, Hospital Employees Union, Vancouver Green Party, The Canadian 
Latin-American Collective, International Longshore Workers Union, Local 
400, Libby Davies MP, Svend Robinson MP, Tim Louis City Councilor, Lisa 
Barrett, Mayor Bowen Island, Stephen Owen, MP, Michael Wallace, 
Professor Political Studies UBC, Bob Rosen, Past President Surrey 
Teachers Association, Adrienne Montani, Trustee VSB, Valerie Raoul, 
Professor Women's Studies & French, Vancouver Vigils, Communist Party of 
Canada, Marxist Leninist, Canadians Concerned About Free Trade, Jews For 
A Just Peace, Social Justice Committee Unitarian Church of Vancouver, 
Society Promoting Environmental Conservation, Palestine Solidarity 
Group, Dan Chambers, United Church Minister, Canada Palestine Support 
Network, Council of Canadians - Mid Island Chapter, South Asian Network 
for Secularism and Democracy, Mennonite Central Committee, Workers. 
Communist Party of Iran/Iraq, Women Elders in Action, Medical Students 
For Global Survival, Committee for Solidarity with Columbia, UBC Social 
Justice Club, Nursing Undergraduate Society, SFU Coalition to Stop the 
War, Queers United Against Kapitalism, Trade Union Committee for Justice 
in the Middle East, Canadian Association of Sexual Assault Centers, 
Emily Carr Students Against the War Coalition, Direct Action Against 
Refugee Exploitation, International Society for Peace & Human Rights, 
Marginalized Workers Action League, Lawyers Against the War, Franciscan 
Sisters of the Attonement, Sunshine Coast Peace Group, Simon Fraser 
Student Society, School of the Americas Watch, Kootenay Branch, Green 
Party (BC), Vancouver Non-Violence Training Collective, Council of 
Canadians (Richmond Chapter), College and Institute Educators 
Association, Global and Societal Ministries BC Conference, United Church 
of Canada, Senior Networks BC, CEP Western Region, Christian Task Force 
on Central America (BC), BC Teachers Federation, Council of Canadians, 
Burnaby Civic Employees' Union, Local 23 CUPE, Trinity United Church 
(Kitsilano) Social Justice Group, Franciscan Sisters of Joy,
For info or to join the coalition contact CESAPI ph/fax 604 737 1299 or 
EAR ph 604 687 3223 or fax 604 687 3277 email ear at peacewire.org
www.geocities.com/stopthewaroniraq

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In this era, when the rich and powerful can go to war killing thousands 
of people while barely risking life or limb of their own soldiers, 
anti-war activism has never been more important. The Bush doctrine of 
“pre-emption,” which declares that the United States has the right to 
invade sovereign countries and overthrow their governments if they are 
seen as hostile to U.S. interests, must be stopped. If we as citizens 
sit by and permit the United States to use its overwhelming military 
might to enforce a “regime change” in Iraq today, what will stop them 
from using it against Venezuela or Brazil tomorrow?

The U.S. has been waging a cold war against Iraq ever since the Gulf 
War, through sanctions and periodic bombing raids. Infant mortality in 
Iraq has tripled since the 1980s. Today, thirteen per cent of Iraqi 
children die before their fifth birthday. The biggest problem is the 
lack of potable water and the breakdown of sewage treatment plants, both 
due to sanctions. The U.S. has successfully blocked most of the “food 
for oil” initiatives taken at the U.N. Still, a war will massively 
increase the death toll.

In the U.S. and across Europe, a mighty anti-war movement has already 
taken to the streets to “stop the war against Iraq before it starts.”

There were an estimated 200,000 in Washington and 400,000 in London at 
the end of October. In Italy, millions have marched against war over the 
last month. George W. Bush’s determination to go to war against the 
long-suffering people of Iraq has provoked a massive reaction around the 
globe.

Canada is lagging behind. While there is strong anti-war sentiment in 
Canada, action on the streets has, so far, been modest. On Saturday, 
November 16 an anti-war demonstration is planned for Queen’s Park in 
Toronto. A large anti-war coalition is planning a peace march in 
Vancouver from Peace Flame Park on the following day as part of a 
Cross-Canada Day of Action. -- www.Rabble.ca

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"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a 
double-edged sword. It
both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums
of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the 
mind
has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the 
citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by 
patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly 
so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."

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Rep. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), member of the Senate Foreign Relations 
Committee, and Vietnam veteran: “It is interesting to me that many of 
those who want to rush this country into war and think it would be so 
quick and easy don't know anything about war. They come at it from an 
intellectual perspective versus having sat in jungles or foxholes and 
watched their friends get their heads blown off. I try to speak for 
those ghosts of the past a little bit… We are the greatest power that 
the world has ever known. But we have limits, too. And these coalitions 
for peace, coalitions for change will be our future, the world's future.”

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"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a 
proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."

Prime Minister Jean Chrétien
(His remarks were made after reporters asked what kind of “proof” Canada 
wanted to see before backing a U.S. attack against Iraq.)

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"There are lots of countries around that have weapons of mass 
destruction. We can't presumably attack them all."

Bill Graham
Canada’s Foreign Affairs Minister

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"As soon as one nation claims the right to take preventive action, other 
countries will naturally do the same. If we go down that road, where are 
we going?"

Jacques Chirac
French President

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"The question is the morning after. What sort of Iraq do we wake up to 
after the bombing? What happens in the region? What impact could it 
have? These are questions leaders I have spoken to have posed."

Kofi Annan
UN Secretary General

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George Bush Snr

“The US has a new credibility. What we say goes.” — George Bush I, 
2/2/1991, US military base.

George Bush Jnr

 "The reason we start a war is to fight a war, win a war, thereby 
causing no more war!" —The first Presidential debate

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Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to 
war." -- Albert
Einstein
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