[mobglob-discuss] Towards McCarthyism: The G8 and beyond

Macdonald Stainsby mstainsby at tao.ca
Fri Jul 12 00:30:56 PDT 2002


----- Original Message -----
From: "rick" <rickm at sprint.ca>
You were in Centennial Park, distributing that "paper", and that was the
Showdown at the Hoedown. That's where all this started.

While Will Offley is someone I am proud to know, it is not only he who can tell
there is seriously something wrong with a paper that includes the contributors I
mentioned earlier. This is not like saying Bill Clinton is a nice guy or
something. This isn't a polemic against certain political positions. It is about
the fact that this paper has, far more than once, associated itself with David
Icke, Paul Fromm, Gordon Watson and several of the progressive bookstores in
this city have already seen it fit to ban it: all but the Spartacus bookstore.
You asked if I knew Will Offley and I said yes.

You can try to dumb down my comments if you wish, but you were right: I wasn't
going to debate that papers' ties to very dangerous folk. I did mention your
"whiteness" to you, what I said was something I say again: You have to be at
least twice as careful and vigilant against racism, becuase you are white. It's
time we stop waiting for Jews to fight anti-Semitism, women to fight sexism,
etc.

You want to have an open debate on anti-Semitism. Funny, so do the people who
want to revive anti-semitism.

Rick, I don't make a habit of this by any means. The Radical crosses so many
lines that if Colombus were right, it would have wandered right off the planet.

Yes, I did "threaten" (actually, I said it with an apology "I don't want to have
to do this...") that I would bring it up at meetings. Some things are more
important than personalities that otherwise might get along. You are a nice guy,
divorced from this. But nothing can be divorced from this.

>  - i was never at the showdown at the hoedown
>  - you haven't known me for two years, in fact the first time we met was a
> few months ago when i was the only one who showed up to your call for action
> for the homeless.

I've never done such a thing in my life. I have no idea what on earth you are
talking about. Not that working for the homeless isn't worthwhile, but I sure as
Hell didn't make any "call". I've seen you around and never known you well.

As far as the seeing you distribute racist filth, I saw you distribute the
Radical. That's all I needed to know.

Macdonald




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