[mobglob-discuss] RE: [pr-x] Question for Rick McCallion

Mon Dec 9 21:29:57 PST 2002

Well Mac, I did finally discover your two questions for me, buried in your
typically deceptive and disingenuous rant. Obviously you intend (among other
things) to link me with anti-semitism and misogyny, despite the
impossibility of truthfully quoting me ever voicing such opinions or of
truthfully relating actions of mine that may suggest i hold such opinions.
Never let the truth get in your way though do you Mac?
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1) Mac: "Do you still give Arthur Topham permission to use you as a cover
for his own work?

Answer: Arthur never asked for, nor did i give him as you falsely imply,
permission to use me as a cover for his own work. Your putting the question
that way is just another of numerous examples of your slimy habit of making
insinuations that aren't backed up by anything in the real world. You seek
to establish some collusion between Arthur and I that doesn't exist.
No one needs permission to quote anything i have said in a public forum,
such as the quote you reference. Furthermore what i said was and remains
100%, bona fide, undeniable, truth. Why would i have a problem with him
quoting it?
(the quote: "You said you had never seen anything racist in the radical, and
if you did you would reconsider your support for the paper")
True then, true now.
As is your habit you don't provide context for the quote. I also said in
that same post months ago, "Prove otherwise about the issue I was
distributing or retract your statement that you saw me "carrying such racist
filth".

Of course you couldn't offer proof for a lie, and you haven't yet had the
fortitude and sense of honour to retract it. Better late than never though
Mac! So i offer you another opportunity to remove some of the stain from
Stainsby.

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2) Mac: "Will you distribute this in the future?"

Answer: Distribute what? Of course you imply another half truth, trying to
make it appear that i am some kind of distribution hub for the Radical,
which you label as nazi racist filth, which would make me a distribution hub
for nazi Racist filth -- in your twisted narrative. You achieve all this
without ever offering validation for your charges, even when asked.

The truth being that The Radical is out of publication, and that you well
know this having broadcast new of it's demise.
Further, I was never integral to it's distribution.
On one occasion i did hand out a few copies of an issue which had a message
from Starhawk that I support. It was a message she had for those of us on
our way to oppose the G8 summit, as i recall. I can probably still get you a
copy if you'd like.

If you are talking in general about distributing hate-mongering, half-truths
and fabrications, racism / bigotry / prejudice, cultural supremacy to
rationalize cultural genocide, intolerance, and the whole reprehensible bag
of tricks employed by small minded and fearful fascists, well YOU Mac are
the only one i ever see writing and distributing such stuff on the lists i
subscribe to.

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There are of course more lies in the rest of your post. Can't be bothered
with it. Suffice it to remind others of your habitually inaccurate writing
and notoriously reckless and unfounded accusations.

By the way, pointing out your sleazy deceptions Mac is in no way meant as a
comment about Arthur, his paper, or how i feel about myself or anyone being
associated with him (by you or in truth). It's about exposing sleaze, and
it's about you Mac.

If you really want to do something to elevate the calibre of discussion on
these two lists and decrease offensive posts, there's an easy way completely
within your control: unsubscribe yourself.

Thanks in advance.
Rick McCallion

-----Original Message-----
From: project-x-admin at lists.resist.ca
[mailto:project-x-admin at lists.resist.ca]On Behalf Of Macdonald Stainsby
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:43 PM
To: mobglob-discuss at lists.resist.ca; project-x at lists.resist.ca
Subject: [pr-x] Question for Rick McCallion

Hi Rick.

I thought this might deserve to be left quietly. But now this is appearing,
posted in the last couple of days. Arthur Topham, former publisher of the
Radical, is now promoting Gordon Watson directly, Watson being a well known
anti-woman terrorist. This same man spent time in the last few days on a
Vancouver Anarchist discussion list promoting "revision" of the Nazi
Holocaust
(calling people jewish Holocaust groupies) In his campaigns, he has started
quoting you again.

I have a question for Rick McCallion: Arthur, formerly I thought he was a
dupe.
But the neo Nazi has been quoting you on a local listserve in Vancouver, all
after telling people that the Nazi Holocaust killed "only 1.5 million" and
then
proceeded to ask a local anarchist if she was a "jewish? orhtodox? zionist?
sympathiser?" after she objected to his bizarre re-writes of history.

He, of course, went on an attack spree against me and also Will Offley,
apparently it was either me or Will anytime that someone calls him on his
anti
semitism. When all of this was happening, none of the people on the list
serve
knew anything about me or Will Offley. I found out after it was brought to
my
attention that he was talking about me. He then quoted something you said on
Mobglob. You said you had never seen anything racist in the radical, and if
you
did you would reconsider your support for the paper. Fair enough. Here, this
isn't racist below, but Arthur is now publishing Gordon Watson (Watson did
not
post the article, Arthur did so for him), a known terrorist against the
abortion
providers in this city. It is a form of hate, and Watson is known as a
promoter
of violence against women. Do you still give Arthur Topham permission to use
you
as a cover for his own work? Will you distribute this in the future?

Here's a link (where Watson calls himself a "reader of the Radical" at the
outset) to this article.

If anyone wants, they can see the archives of the discussion where Topham
the
"anarchist" newspaper editor makes his bizarre statements about the
Holocaust
(et al). Considering you have actively helped organise with Arthur, it is
fair
to ask you publically let us know where you stand on this issue...

as you yourself stated you would.
I know you are busy, so let me thank you ahead of time for taking out the
time
from your busy schedule. It's just that these kinds of questions really do
deserve attention, as I'm sure you'll agree.

article by Watson published by Arthur Topham:
http://www.radicalpress.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=453

bizarre anti-semitic rants by Arthur at this (Anarchist based)Vancouver
email
list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vanarchy/

Macdonald

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