[Migrantjusticedocumentary] Subtitle invoice

Mon Mar 23 04:20:08 PDT 2015

Thanks for all the un/underpaid work y'all! and thanks for 'negotiating'
with the coop Boban, at least it will give of some extra loose for other
expenses, if there are more dvd or eventual need for blueray costs, or
promotion or applying for 'festivals'. if we can play that by ear once
everything else is done and the cp screening set.
Once we know how many dvds we want done we'll be able to make the order
right (and you finalize mastering etc)? i just wanted to see if we need to
do any research or make calls to the dvd duplicating company to have a real
idea of the printing n cases we want will cost. I cannot figure it out from
the website (i'd need to talk with someone n then email the company
questions... or is it clear on your end?)

Hope everyone is ok with the money they'll be getting. please be honest as
I really don't want people to leave this project feeling like they've been
taken advantage of. If there are some concerns I'd like to talk about it
and try to figure out other options.
thanks y'all
xo

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Catherine Kendler <
catherinekendler at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds good. I appreciate the offer, Boban, but you and Danielle and
> others have also done a tremendous amount of work so a number of us are
> going to end up underpaid. At least folks in the group, such as myself,
> received JV money for a year. I personally am okay with the pay I've gotten
> for this and am happy to have acquired experience and contributed to
> something great.
>
> cat
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Boban Chaldovich <
> contact at bobanchaldovich.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey folks,
>> Coop is understanding of our situation we have decided to not run the
>> invoice nor take a cut ,
>> so basically if Otto can take the cash and I’ll distribute it to the
>> workers directly. No invoice need to be processed.
>> So, for the subtitles it’s *$952* (all the workers hours, not including
>> Cat’s).
>> I would like to acknowledge that Cat has done a tremendous work on the
>> subs (and other things)
>> and if she want to get paid for that, at least a bit, she should tell us
>> and we can try to figure that out.
>>
>> Also, I’m at  33.5h. Since it’s gonna take few more hours to finish it
>> (Mastering, DVD authoring)
>> and there’s a budget constraints , if you guys pay me $500, I’ll be down
>> with that.
>>
>> Otto, when can you do take the money out and meet me?
>> Thanks.
>> Boban
>>
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 8:49, Danielle Holyk <danielle.holyk at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ok
>> To start off please don't worry about getting any money to me... as long
>> as we don't throw the extra away on buying t-shirts, and if Boban, Pat and
>> others (who got paid) may let me sleep on their couches when i get back
>> home broke... looking for work. But right now I'm fine, no rent n most food
>> from the trash, and starting to feel guilty re my lack of
>> 'responsibilities/organizing' ;)  So let's get the money to people that
>> aren't me. But I really appreciate the thought.
>> Also re domain and hosting, Nico did you hear back from SAB? (also about
>> screening with cinema politica and how many dvd's they might like??)?
>> Boban asked before about figuring out one domain that would work in all 3
>> languages (so we don't have to buy 3). i can't think of anything that works
>> with our title, as the only word that's about the same in all 3 languages
>> is MIGRANT... SOLIDARITY... project... (not that that's a proposal, but
>> does anyone else have any ideas???? or should we just get 3 all with the
>> title's name (so a bit more to budget)?
>>
>> As for making the DVDs with duplication.ca
>> http://www.duplication.ca/quotes/canada/english/dvd-duplication.php
>> i feel that it should be a bit cheaper than the first quote we got, but
>> Boban I am unable to provide an accurate quote for 100 as i'm unsure of the
>> dvd printing (lable) and cover types you'd prefer. But playing with
>> different things it looks like it could be under 300$ for 100 dvds
>> Also Nico and Otto, once we have all the details finalized would you be
>> able to physically make the order.. take the masters there etc? if not once
>> it's done I'll ask around for favours. don't want to pile more up on  the
>> same folks.
>>
>> I hope this is enough. I do think we have enough to pay folks. if we can
>> save a bit to send maybe people like Cat and I some dvds for screenings out
>> here, and as long as we do screenings with groups, so there's not really
>> more promotional costs, we should be good.
>> It just means, boban if we were going to apply (as we had spoken of
>> before ) to any festivals, we'll have to ask to have the entry price waved
>> or look for $ else where. as we won't have enough for that too.
>>
>> Thanks everyone!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Boban Chaldovich <
>> contact at bobanchaldovich.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So far, I’ve spent 32.5h on this, outside the subtitles. I expect
>>> another 4h to finish the DVD cover and prepare the master files. At my
>>> friend rate of $25/h and those $400 that would come to $512.5.
>>> I’ve asked the coop to reduce the markup, so we have more money to cover
>>> other expenses, like Danielle’s time.
>>> If we can get the money for web domain and DVDs  from QPIRG or something
>>> that would be great.
>>> As the money is tight, I’m willing to not get paid for all my hours and
>>> direct that money towards Danielle.
>>> Boban
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2015, at 12:41, Otto Vicé <ottovicentini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> We have $2259,72 left in our account.
>>>
>>> I checked and we never really got a quote for the DVDs, but last year I
>>> got a quote from precision disk for around 500 for 100 dvds.
>>>
>>> Boban has been paid 400, I'm assuming it would be nice if we could pay
>>> him more, but Boban should clarify this.
>>>
>>> I don't have quotes for the domains.
>>>
>>> Beyond that, all we have left to pay likely is Danielle for her work
>>> last year, but we had previously agreed that we would use whatever was left
>>> to pay people, but at the same time it would be nice if we could prioritize
>>> having some left over.
>>>
>>> So, given the estimate I have for DVDs (which I don't know if its
>>> accurate) plus the invoice for subtitling, if I do the math we would only
>>> have  523.36 to pay for domain hosting, Danielle, Boban, and any other
>>> things involved iwht this project.
>>>
>>> -Otto
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Nicolas Quiazua <
>>> nicolas.quiazua at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope we can pay all. how much money do we have from indiegogo and how
>>>> much is it going to cost for dvds do we know? if not i can call in
>>>> tomorrow. appart from that, domain for websites, and your work, Boban. And
>>>> what else?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Boban Chaldovich <
>>>> contact at bobanchaldovich.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I need some feedback on this so we can proceed with the invoice.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Boban
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 13, 2015, at 11:54, Boban Chaldovich <
>>>>> contact at bobanchaldovich.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Otto (and the gang),
>>>>> Total time to time, translate and review the subtitles (not including
>>>>> Cat’s hours) was *38h05m *and this is the breakdown:
>>>>> Coordinating: 3h30min
>>>>> French translation and timing: 16h20m
>>>>> Subtitle timing (ENG + ESP): 10h30
>>>>> English translation review: 2h30
>>>>> French translation review: 3h
>>>>> Timing review (all three versions): 2h
>>>>> Subtitle mastering: 15min
>>>>> Total worker hours = *$952*. plus 23% coop markup = *$1236.36*
>>>>> I understand that this seems like a lot, but bare in mind that we are
>>>>> talking about 3 different subtitles.
>>>>> If the project cannot afford the full price, we might be able to
>>>>> negotiate the coop markup, but not the worker’s hours.
>>>>> Let me know what you think and I’ll proceed with invoicing this.
>>>>> Boban
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 13, 2015, at 10:36, Boban Chaldovich <
>>>>> contact at bobanchaldovich.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, let’s go with your address and name then.
>>>>> Hopefully you won’t have any issues with your taxes.
>>>>> b
>>>>> On Mar 13, 2015, at 10:04, Otto Vicé <ottovicentini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean, for their taxes it might be useful for them to have the cheque
>>>>> come from the same person who they issued an invoice to, but as long as
>>>>> they seem okay with it I'm okay with that option. Whenever there's an
>>>>> amount and an invoice let me know and I'll send them a cheque.
>>>>>
>>>>> -o
>>>>> On Mar 13, 2015 8:25 AM, "Boban Chaldovich" <
>>>>> contact at bobanchaldovich.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was thinking, maybe we don’t even need to include you in the
>>>>>> invoice.
>>>>>> I see that I was invoicing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Migrant Archive project
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7385 St.Andre H2R 2P7 Montreal, QC, Canada
>>>>>>   which maybe we can still use, for the consistency sake.
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>> Boban
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 21:45, Otto Vicé <ottovicentini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any way of billing like the documentary project and me at
>>>>>> the same time. Like I know that we were using the name Migrant Justice
>>>>>> Documentary Project or "In the Shadow of the Border", so could the billing
>>>>>> info look anything like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "In the Shadow of the Border"
>>>>>> c/o Francesca Buxton
>>>>>> 427 Rue Hickson
>>>>>> Verdun, QC H4G2J9
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That way in case I ever get audited for this period, which will
>>>>>> hopefully not happen, I can just be like yeah documentary all that money in
>>>>>> paypal was for documentary and have some actual invoices and stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that isn't possible, just use me on the invoice, with the same
>>>>>> address and everything as above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Boban for all your hard work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Otto
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Boban Chaldovich <
>>>>>> contact at bobanchaldovich.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As long as there’s no danger of someone having to pay taxes for this,
>>>>>>> it should all be fine. Please send me the details to who to invoice
>>>>>>> to,
>>>>>>> so we can proceed with that.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Boban
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 0:18, Otto Vicé <ottovicentini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you just put something on the invoice with like my legal name
>>>>>>> (will pm you with it later boban) and then the name of our documentary, is
>>>>>>> that okay? If that's so, just let me know the total and I'll send them a
>>>>>>> cheque!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise, you could just invoice me personally and ill still send a
>>>>>>> cheque .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -otto
>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2015 11:57 PM, "Nicolas Quiazua" <
>>>>>>> nicolas.quiazua at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We're not really sending bills to anyone anyway though right? So
>>>>>>>> does it really matter? Wouldn't we just be taking money out of indiegogo.
>>>>>>>> So idk "migrant justice archive"? Danielle would probably know better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le mercredi 11 mars 2015, Boban Chaldovich <
>>>>>>>> contact at bobanchaldovich.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>>>>>> just wanted to check in about the subs and invoicing. They are all
>>>>>>>>> done, english, french and spanish. Reviewed and placed in.
>>>>>>>>> Who should this be invoiced to? Please let me know so we can
>>>>>>>>> proceed further.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Boban
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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