From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Mon Jan  4 21:44:53 2010
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (Peter van Heusden)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:44:53 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
Message-ID: <4B42D1D5.8080902@webbedfeet.co.za>

Whose up for a meeting on Sunday? About 11am? To discuss the RRFM and
other issues.

And here's a quote I liked, illustrating what I think we were trying to
get at with the RRFM:

"I live with animals and plants. It is my practice and lifestyle to
grow, forage preserve food, make medicine and build soil. This practice
of mine is an economy in and of itself. It sustains me and I am also
able to use it to create other economies that create other relationships
with people and sometimes ones that pay the bills. I use aesthetic
strategies to illuminate and frame this lifestyle."

(from http://www.arthurmag.com/2010/01/04/embody-your-economies/)

An economy isn't just about money, or "production, distribution and
consumption of goods and services" (from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system) - its about the
organisation of time, and thus labour, and of relationships - with each
other, with the soil and the planet and its animals and plants. And
ultimately it *should* be about building healthy relationships, in the
realisation that all the lives on our planet are interdependent (so an
economy relies on an ecology).

In a healthy economy, paying the bills is just one thing to worry about
- yet I sense that it is precisely the anxiety of bills that feeds into
the anxiety around matters economic, the anxiety that even infected the
RRFM (with concerns about stickers for goods taken, concerns about the
presence of "bergies", etc).

Peter


From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  4 22:35:31 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:35:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
In-Reply-To: <4B42D1D5.8080902@webbedfeet.co.za>
Message-ID: <736840.44533.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sunday at 11 is ok with me. Where?

Andreas


--- On Tue, 1/5/10, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za> wrote:

From: Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>
Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 7:44 AM

Whose up for a meeting on Sunday? About 11am? To discuss the RRFM and
other issues.

And here's a quote I liked, illustrating what I think we were trying to
get at with the RRFM:

"I live with animals and plants. It is my practice and lifestyle to
grow, forage preserve food, make medicine and build soil. This practice
of mine is an economy in and of itself. It sustains me and I am also
able to use it to create other economies that create other relationships
with people and sometimes ones that pay the bills. I use aesthetic
strategies to illuminate and frame this lifestyle."

(from http://www.arthurmag.com/2010/01/04/embody-your-economies/)

An economy isn't just about money, or "production, distribution and
consumption of goods and services" (from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system) - its about the
organisation of time, and thus labour, and of relationships - with each
other, with the soil and the planet and its animals and plants. And
ultimately it *should* be about building healthy relationships, in the
realisation that all the lives on our planet are interdependent (so an
economy relies on an ecology).

In a healthy economy, paying the bills is just one thing to worry about
- yet I sense that it is precisely the anxiety of bills that feeds into
the anxiety around matters economic, the anxiety that even infected the
RRFM (with concerns about stickers for goods taken, concerns about the
presence of "bergies", etc).

Peter
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From sleepingmantis at gmail.com  Mon Jan  4 23:58:25 2010
From: sleepingmantis at gmail.com (Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:58:25 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
In-Reply-To: <736840.44533.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4B42D1D5.8080902@webbedfeet.co.za>
	<736840.44533.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <252ccda01001042358n4a14f26fkbcdaf0e3f80e196@mail.gmail.com>

I'm good for Sunday at 11. Wherever is fine with me too.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Sunday at 11 is ok with me. Where?
>
> Andreas
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>
> Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 7:44 AM
>
>
> Whose up for a meeting on Sunday? About 11am? To discuss the RRFM and
> other issues.
>
> And here's a quote I liked, illustrating what I think we were trying to
> get at with the RRFM:
>
> "I live with animals and plants. It is my practice and lifestyle to
> grow, forage preserve food, make medicine and build soil. This practice
> of mine is an economy in and of itself. It sustains me and I am also
> able to use it to create other economies that create other relationships
> with people and sometimes ones that pay the bills. I use aesthetic
> strategies to illuminate and frame this lifestyle."
>
> (from http://www.arthurmag.com/2010/01/04/embody-your-economies/)
>
> An economy isn't just about money, or "production, distribution and
> consumption of goods and services" (from
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system) - its about the
> organisation of time, and thus labour, and of relationships - with each
> other, with the soil and the planet and its animals and plants. And
> ultimately it *should* be about building healthy relationships, in the
> realisation that all the lives on our planet are interdependent (so an
> economy relies on an ecology).
>
> In a healthy economy, paying the bills is just one thing to worry about
> - yet I sense that it is precisely the anxiety of bills that feeds into
> the anxiety around matters economic, the anxiety that even infected the
> RRFM (with concerns about stickers for goods taken, concerns about the
> presence of "bergies", etc).
>
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
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> Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca <http://mc/compose?to=Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
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From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Tue Jan  5 08:41:01 2010
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (Peter van Heusden)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:41:01 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
In-Reply-To: <252ccda01001042358n4a14f26fkbcdaf0e3f80e196@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B42D1D5.8080902@webbedfeet.co.za>	<736840.44533.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<252ccda01001042358n4a14f26fkbcdaf0e3f80e196@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B436B9D.406@webbedfeet.co.za>

My place? I'll call the other three.

Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous wrote:
> I'm good for Sunday at 11. Wherever is fine with me too.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
>> Sunday at 11 is ok with me. Where?
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>
>> Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
>> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
>> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 7:44 AM
>>
>>
>> Whose up for a meeting on Sunday? About 11am? To discuss the RRFM and
>> other issues.
>>
>> And here's a quote I liked, illustrating what I think we were trying to
>> get at with the RRFM:
>>
>> "I live with animals and plants. It is my practice and lifestyle to
>> grow, forage preserve food, make medicine and build soil. This practice
>> of mine is an economy in and of itself. It sustains me and I am also
>> able to use it to create other economies that create other relationships
>> with people and sometimes ones that pay the bills. I use aesthetic
>> strategies to illuminate and frame this lifestyle."
>>
>> (from http://www.arthurmag.com/2010/01/04/embody-your-economies/)
>>
>> An economy isn't just about money, or "production, distribution and
>> consumption of goods and services" (from
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system) - its about the
>> organisation of time, and thus labour, and of relationships - with each
>> other, with the soil and the planet and its animals and plants. And
>> ultimately it *should* be about building healthy relationships, in the
>> realisation that all the lives on our planet are interdependent (so an
>> economy relies on an ecology).
>>
>> In a healthy economy, paying the bills is just one thing to worry about
>> - yet I sense that it is precisely the anxiety of bills that feeds into
>> the anxiety around matters economic, the anxiety that even infected the
>> RRFM (with concerns about stickers for goods taken, concerns about the
>> presence of "bergies", etc).
>>
>> Peter
>> _______________________________________________
>> Iyf-ct mailing list
>> Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca <http://mc/compose?to=Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
>>
>>
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>> Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
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>>
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From sleepingmantis at gmail.com  Wed Jan  6 02:29:37 2010
From: sleepingmantis at gmail.com (Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:29:37 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
In-Reply-To: <4B436B9D.406@webbedfeet.co.za>
References: <4B42D1D5.8080902@webbedfeet.co.za>
	<736840.44533.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<252ccda01001042358n4a14f26fkbcdaf0e3f80e196@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B436B9D.406@webbedfeet.co.za>
Message-ID: <252ccda01001060229j168cdaafpf091d8ab31aacc0a@mail.gmail.com>

I can work with that :) Excellent!

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>wrote:

> My place? I'll call the other three.
>
> Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous wrote:
> > I'm good for Sunday at 11. Wherever is fine with me too.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Sunday at 11 is ok with me. Where?
> >>
> >> Andreas
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>* wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>
> >> Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
> >> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> >> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 7:44 AM
> >>
> >>
> >> Whose up for a meeting on Sunday? About 11am? To discuss the RRFM and
> >> other issues.
> >>
> >> And here's a quote I liked, illustrating what I think we were trying to
> >> get at with the RRFM:
> >>
> >> "I live with animals and plants. It is my practice and lifestyle to
> >> grow, forage preserve food, make medicine and build soil. This practice
> >> of mine is an economy in and of itself. It sustains me and I am also
> >> able to use it to create other economies that create other relationships
> >> with people and sometimes ones that pay the bills. I use aesthetic
> >> strategies to illuminate and frame this lifestyle."
> >>
> >> (from http://www.arthurmag.com/2010/01/04/embody-your-economies/)
> >>
> >> An economy isn't just about money, or "production, distribution and
> >> consumption of goods and services" (from
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system) - its about the
> >> organisation of time, and thus labour, and of relationships - with each
> >> other, with the soil and the planet and its animals and plants. And
> >> ultimately it *should* be about building healthy relationships, in the
> >> realisation that all the lives on our planet are interdependent (so an
> >> economy relies on an ecology).
> >>
> >> In a healthy economy, paying the bills is just one thing to worry about
> >> - yet I sense that it is precisely the anxiety of bills that feeds into
> >> the anxiety around matters economic, the anxiety that even infected the
> >> RRFM (with concerns about stickers for goods taken, concerns about the
> >> presence of "bergies", etc).
> >>
> >> Peter
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Iyf-ct mailing list
> >> Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca <http://mc/compose?to=Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
> >> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
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> >>
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From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Wed Jan  6 05:47:18 2010
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (Peter van Heusden)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:47:18 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
In-Reply-To: <252ccda01001060229j168cdaafpf091d8ab31aacc0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B42D1D5.8080902@webbedfeet.co.za>	<736840.44533.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<252ccda01001042358n4a14f26fkbcdaf0e3f80e196@mail.gmail.com>	<4B436B9D.406@webbedfeet.co.za>
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Ok, I've called Mandy, Meghan and Lettie, and their all ok for Sunday's meeting.

Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous wrote:
> I can work with that :) Excellent!
> 
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>wrote:
> 
>> My place? I'll call the other three.
>>
>> Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous wrote:
>>> I'm good for Sunday at 11. Wherever is fine with me too.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sunday at 11 is ok with me. Where?
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>
>>>> Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
>>>> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
>>>> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 7:44 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whose up for a meeting on Sunday? About 11am? To discuss the RRFM and
>>>> other issues.
>>>>
>>>> And here's a quote I liked, illustrating what I think we were trying to
>>>> get at with the RRFM:
>>>>
>>>> "I live with animals and plants. It is my practice and lifestyle to
>>>> grow, forage preserve food, make medicine and build soil. This practice
>>>> of mine is an economy in and of itself. It sustains me and I am also
>>>> able to use it to create other economies that create other relationships
>>>> with people and sometimes ones that pay the bills. I use aesthetic
>>>> strategies to illuminate and frame this lifestyle."
>>>>
>>>> (from http://www.arthurmag.com/2010/01/04/embody-your-economies/)
>>>>
>>>> An economy isn't just about money, or "production, distribution and
>>>> consumption of goods and services" (from
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system) - its about the
>>>> organisation of time, and thus labour, and of relationships - with each
>>>> other, with the soil and the planet and its animals and plants. And
>>>> ultimately it *should* be about building healthy relationships, in the
>>>> realisation that all the lives on our planet are interdependent (so an
>>>> economy relies on an ecology).
>>>>
>>>> In a healthy economy, paying the bills is just one thing to worry about
>>>> - yet I sense that it is precisely the anxiety of bills that feeds into
>>>> the anxiety around matters economic, the anxiety that even infected the
>>>> RRFM (with concerns about stickers for goods taken, concerns about the
>>>> presence of "bergies", etc).
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Iyf-ct mailing list
>>>> Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca <http://mc/compose?to=Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
>>>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  6 05:50:21 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 05:50:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
In-Reply-To: <4B449466.8040606@webbedfeet.co.za>
Message-ID: <695009.5152.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Cool, see you then. Thanks Peter.

A

--- On Wed, 1/6/10, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za> wrote:

From: Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>
Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 3:47 PM

Ok, I've called Mandy, Meghan and Lettie, and their all ok for Sunday's meeting.

Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous wrote:
> I can work with that :) Excellent!
> 
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>wrote:
> 
>> My place? I'll call the other three.
>>
>> Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous wrote:
>>> I'm good for Sunday at 11. Wherever is fine with me too.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sunday at 11 is ok with me. Where?
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>
>>>> Subject: [Iyf-ct] When shall we five meet again?
>>>> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
>>>> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 7:44 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whose up for a meeting on Sunday? About 11am? To discuss the RRFM and
>>>> other issues.
>>>>
>>>> And here's a quote I liked, illustrating what I think we were trying to
>>>> get at with the RRFM:
>>>>
>>>> "I live with animals and plants. It is my practice and lifestyle to
>>>> grow, forage preserve food, make medicine and build soil. This practice
>>>> of mine is an economy in and of itself. It sustains me and I am also
>>>> able to use it to create other economies that create other relationships
>>>> with people and sometimes ones that pay the bills. I use aesthetic
>>>> strategies to illuminate and frame this lifestyle."
>>>>
>>>> (from http://www.arthurmag.com/2010/01/04/embody-your-economies/)
>>>>
>>>> An economy isn't just about money, or "production, distribution and
>>>> consumption of goods and services" (from
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system) - its about the
>>>> organisation of time, and thus labour, and of relationships - with each
>>>> other, with the soil and the planet and its animals and plants. And
>>>> ultimately it *should* be about building healthy relationships, in the
>>>> realisation that all the lives on our planet are interdependent (so an
>>>> economy relies on an ecology).
>>>>
>>>> In a healthy economy, paying the bills is just one thing to worry about
>>>> - yet I sense that it is precisely the anxiety of bills that feeds into
>>>> the anxiety around matters economic, the anxiety that even infected the
>>>> RRFM (with concerns about stickers for goods taken, concerns about the
>>>> presence of "bergies", etc).
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Iyf-ct mailing list
>>>> Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca <http://mc/compose?to=Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
>>>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From megatrops at gmail.com  Sun Jan 10 05:09:05 2010
From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:09:05 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] shit
Message-ID: <bc624db31001100509q5bc76aa3s9c364b47b69a9c02@mail.gmail.com>

shit, sorry i missed the meeting this morning. it's been a hectic week with
catching up on deadlines and my mother leaving today. i only realised at
2pm!!!
i really wanted to be there for this one, but im sure interesting things
were discussed. pls just update me a little and i'll jump in where i can. we
still on for next weekend?

fok, poo, crap, dang, hell, blast and all the other swear words out there
...



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From sleepingmantis at gmail.com  Mon Jan 11 07:44:24 2010
From: sleepingmantis at gmail.com (Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:44:24 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] shit
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References: <bc624db31001100509q5bc76aa3s9c364b47b69a9c02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <252ccda01001110744n68f10156u27f026bc12962d4@mail.gmail.com>

I was about to issue similar profanities. Had a gig that ran pretty late
Saturday night and seriously overslept wake up time on Sunday morning. Super
sorry guys. Eish...

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com> wrote:

> shit, sorry i missed the meeting this morning. it's been a hectic week with
> catching up on deadlines and my mother leaving today. i only realised at
> 2pm!!!
> i really wanted to be there for this one, but im sure interesting things
> were discussed. pls just update me a little and i'll jump in where i can. we
> still on for next weekend?
>
> fok, poo, crap, dang, hell, blast and all the other swear words out there
> ...
>
>
>
> --
> easy now
> mega
> **
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>
>
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From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Mon Jan 11 11:25:14 2010
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (Peter van Heusden)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:25:14 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] shit
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And apologies for missing your gig on Saturday, James.... was wanting to
be there but you know...

Anyway, a bit of the shit that we discussed:

1. No feed back from the Evolver people yet, but Andreas will try and
get in touch again.

2. RRFM: Please, no wind next time, ok? Seriously though, Cape Town /
Muizenberg's wind gets a bit better after January, so we should be in
luck. So:

a) Production: We'd like to see more activities, not just people
bringing stuff. People exchanging stuff don't "connect" very much, but
activities can draw people in (like Meghan's art stuff, James & co's
music, the volcano). Then the RRFM can be a space to produce stuff (not
necessarily material stuff - also ideas, memories, relationships between
people)

b) Info: need to produce more info for people - maybe have a RRFM "info
desk" at the next market.

c) Zine: we could have an "In Your Face" zine that we distribute at the
RRFM to spread ideas / experiences.

d) Register: next time we need to remember to make a register for those
who attend

e) Shelter from the elements: Let people know we're looking for tents
and shelters of all kinds. Also there's a venue in Vrygrond (the Pink
Church) which is available for cheap (R 50 or so) and comes with parking
 too. And from March-ish there should be a community centre in Vrygrond
we could use too.

f) Date: If we hear from the Evolver people we can do something with
them, else aim for the 7th of Feb as the next RRFM.

3. Future Vrygrond Dance Group - Talent show: Lettie mentioned that they
want to hold a Talent Show / Fundraiser at the end of Feb and are
looking for judges for this. This will involve dance, acting, poetry and
singing.

4. Computer project in Vrygrond: Via one of Lettie's comrades there's
apparently a big computer donation heading Vrygrond way. She's looking
for people to help set them up and teach skills - we await further details.

Next meeting: Sunday 24th Jan - Mandy's house.

P.S. apols for being a bit grumpy this Sunday... I was a bit stressed
out about bills to pay and other capitalistoid rubbish.

Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous wrote:
> I was about to issue similar profanities. Had a gig that ran pretty late
> Saturday night and seriously overslept wake up time on Sunday morning. Super
> sorry guys. Eish...
> 
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> shit, sorry i missed the meeting this morning. it's been a hectic week with
>> catching up on deadlines and my mother leaving today. i only realised at
>> 2pm!!!
>> i really wanted to be there for this one, but im sure interesting things
>> were discussed. pls just update me a little and i'll jump in where i can. we
>> still on for next weekend?
>>
>> fok, poo, crap, dang, hell, blast and all the other swear words out there
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> easy now
>> mega
>> **
>> (+27)72 503 7994
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Iyf-ct mailing list
>> Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
>>
>>
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> 
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 12 03:27:14 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:27:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Evolver...
Message-ID: <754946.76163.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi folks

Gizelle from Evolver is looking into a venue in Muizenberg and working on a programme. She'll get back to us with details asap, but says we're still looking at the last Sunday in Jan...

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From mandymoussouris at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 12 04:41:14 2010
From: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com (Mandy Moussouris)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:41:14 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Evolver...
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Thanks Andreas, Not sure if I will be here that Sunday - but will let you know - either way sure you can manage without me if not... :-)





 


Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:27:14 -0800
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Evolver...





Hi folks

Gizelle from Evolver is looking into a venue in Muizenberg and working on a programme. She'll get back to us with details asap, but says we're still looking at the last Sunday in Jan...

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From megatrops at gmail.com  Wed Jan 13 02:10:42 2010
From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:10:42 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] shit
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Thanks Peter, this is very helpful.

c) Zine: we could have an "In Your Face" zine that we distribute at the
RRFM to spread ideas / experiences.
Great, this will also amp us on to do the little things we initially spoke
about like shedding light on the stupid by-laws that rule out city. We will
have lots of fun with 2010 here and effing fifa.

e) Shelter from the elements: Let people know we're looking for tents
and shelters of all kinds. Also there's a venue in Vrygrond (the Pink
Church) which is available for cheap (R 50 or so) and comes with parking
 too. And from March-ish there should be a community centre in Vrygrond
we could use too.
I vote for the venue in Vrygrond. It seems more reliable and practical. Im
not sure the windy mznbrg stretch is the best way to go, although it's
pretty, it's just too elemental for something like this.


4. Computer project in Vrygrond: Via one of Lettie's comrades there's
apparently a big computer donation heading Vrygrond way. She's looking
for people to help set them up and teach skills - we await further details.
I would be willing to get involved in a few days teaching things I know,
which are more Photoshop and creative suites, but I know a little about Word
and such things too. I'm thinking it's only basics that are required, like
setting up a CV and learning Word etc. If that is the case I could ask
others as well if they have spare time.



On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Peter van Heusden <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>wrote:

> And apologies for missing your gig on Saturday, James.... was wanting to
> be there but you know...
>
> Anyway, a bit of the shit that we discussed:
>
> 1. No feed back from the Evolver people yet, but Andreas will try and
> get in touch again.
>
> 2. RRFM: Please, no wind next time, ok? Seriously though, Cape Town /
> Muizenberg's wind gets a bit better after January, so we should be in
> luck. So:
>
> a) Production: We'd like to see more activities, not just people
> bringing stuff. People exchanging stuff don't "connect" very much, but
> activities can draw people in (like Meghan's art stuff, James & co's
> music, the volcano). Then the RRFM can be a space to produce stuff (not
> necessarily material stuff - also ideas, memories, relationships between
> people)
>
> b) Info: need to produce more info for people - maybe have a RRFM "info
> desk" at the next market.
>
> c) Zine: we could have an "In Your Face" zine that we distribute at the
> RRFM to spread ideas / experiences.
>
> d) Register: next time we need to remember to make a register for those
> who attend
>
> e) Shelter from the elements: Let people know we're looking for tents
> and shelters of all kinds. Also there's a venue in Vrygrond (the Pink
> Church) which is available for cheap (R 50 or so) and comes with parking
>  too. And from March-ish there should be a community centre in Vrygrond
> we could use too.
>
> f) Date: If we hear from the Evolver people we can do something with
> them, else aim for the 7th of Feb as the next RRFM.
>
> 3. Future Vrygrond Dance Group - Talent show: Lettie mentioned that they
> want to hold a Talent Show / Fundraiser at the end of Feb and are
> looking for judges for this. This will involve dance, acting, poetry and
> singing.
>
> 4. Computer project in Vrygrond: Via one of Lettie's comrades there's
> apparently a big computer donation heading Vrygrond way. She's looking
> for people to help set them up and teach skills - we await further details.
>
> Next meeting: Sunday 24th Jan - Mandy's house.
>
> P.S. apols for being a bit grumpy this Sunday... I was a bit stressed
> out about bills to pay and other capitalistoid rubbish.
>
> Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous wrote:
> > I was about to issue similar profanities. Had a gig that ran pretty late
> > Saturday night and seriously overslept wake up time on Sunday morning.
> Super
> > sorry guys. Eish...
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> shit, sorry i missed the meeting this morning. it's been a hectic week
> with
> >> catching up on deadlines and my mother leaving today. i only realised at
> >> 2pm!!!
> >> i really wanted to be there for this one, but im sure interesting things
> >> were discussed. pls just update me a little and i'll jump in where i
> can. we
> >> still on for next weekend?
> >>
> >> fok, poo, crap, dang, hell, blast and all the other swear words out
> there
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> easy now
> >> mega
> >> **
> >> (+27)72 503 7994
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Iyf-ct mailing list
> >> Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> >> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
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From mandymoussouris at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 15 00:12:55 2010
From: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com (Mandy Moussouris)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:12:55 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] IWW in South Africa
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References: <373975.83161.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <COL105-W332B54DF72613CAFBB54AB5690@phx.gbl>


Hi,

 

Thanks for getting back. Pitty we did not know you were here would have been nice to meet and chat - hope you had a good stay in CT although July is not the best time weather wise.

 

At the moment we would not be in a position to start job site organising, we think this would develop as things got going. Our group, called In Your Face (IYF) is a mixture of Anarchist and autonomists, it started last year when I moved to Cape Town with an anti Election campaign entitled NOPE, with the slogan 'our dreams don't fit on your ballots' and has moved on to running a really really free market every month and plans to start basic economics training and run seminars and film screenings. I am a supporter of Zabalaza, a South African Anarchist group and before that was part of Bekisha Media Cooperative with Nicole Ulrich, Lucien Van der Walt and Michael Smidt and we all met comrades from IWW when we went to the May 2000 CNT Pour un Autre Futur Rallye in Paris. I have also worked in the union movement, specificaly with COSATU in various capacities (mostly Training and research) since 1993 - although do not any more, so I do have some skills which can provide support.

 

Our group is made up primarily of workers in NGO's and some unemployed people but we would very much like to belong to a union. In the past I have both worked for and been a member of COSATU but as you know COSATU is very much a Nationalist union particularly since 1994 with its alliance with the ANC and SACP, it has also, lost a lot of its working class focus and shopfloor strenghth, choosing to follow a more corpratist model of unionism. These are issues with us and the main reason why we would not like to join COSATU. IYF tasked me to look into the possiblity of getting an IWW Chapter set up here and we would need to discuss this in our group a bit more but the idea of starting an IWW here comes, firstly from my belief in the model and principles of IWW, which my comrades share. We also think that our really really free markets would be a good place to begin recruitment campaigns. Our group is small at the moment and getting things going would take a lot of work, so recruiting, we think would be an important innitial step to build numbers and thus capacity.

 

In terms of what we would like to accomplish, we would like, for ourselves andother workers, to have a union that supports and provides space for libeterian thought and practice, one which is not linked to any politial party, one that REALLY challenges the Capitalist State and Capital but first and foremost one that organises, supports and empowers workers to engage with the problems and challenges they face on a daily basis in their workplace and their lives. This is the aspect which will require, at least innitially a lot of time and support in terms of training and providing knowledge of labour laws etc.

 

Sorry if this is a bit broad, vague, verbose and structureless. I think from here I would need to sit down and have a proper conversation, so that we can develop a more formal plan and idea. anyway hope this helps.

 

Yours in struggle

Mandy

 







 
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:59:39 -0800
> From: davekloker at yahoo.com
> Subject: IWW in South Africa
> To: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com
> CC: jkrpaniww at yahoo.com
> 
> Greetings,
> I am the chair of the International Solidarity Comission of the IWW. I am very excited about the prospect of an IWW chapter in Cape Town, particularly because I was just there this past July. I would love some more information as a next step in starting a branch. Are you doing any job site organizing? What drew you to the IWW? What would you like to accomplish with a branch in Cape Town? I look forward to hearing from you.
> Regards,
> Kloker, San Francisco Bay Area General Membership Branch, United States
> ?Creating love is not for the soft and sentimental among us. Love is a tough business.? Alix Spiegel
> 
> 
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 15 00:49:35 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:49:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] IWW in South Africa
In-Reply-To: <COL105-W332B54DF72613CAFBB54AB5690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <232583.46643.qm@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sounds great Mandy!

A

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From: Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] IWW in South Africa
To: davekloker at yahoo.com
Cc: "In your face" <iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 10:12 AM




Hi,

?

Thanks for getting back. Pitty we did not know you were here would have been nice to meet and chat - hope you had a good stay in CT although July is not the best time weather wise.

?

At the moment we would not be in a position to start job site organising, we think this would develop as things got going. Our group, called In Your Face?(IYF) is a mixture of Anarchist and autonomists, it started last year when I moved to Cape Town with an?anti Election campaign entitled NOPE, with the slogan 'our dreams don't fit on your ballots' and has moved on to running a really really free market every month and plans to start basic economics training and run seminars and film screenings. I am a supporter of Zabalaza, a South African Anarchist group and before that was part of Bekisha Media Cooperative with Nicole Ulrich, Lucien Van der Walt and Michael Smidt and we all met comrades from IWW when we went to the May 2000 CNT Pour?un Autre Futur Rallye in Paris. I have also worked in the union movement, specificaly with COSATU in various capacities (mostly Training and research) since 1993 - although do not any more, so I do have some skills
 which can provide support.

?

Our group is made up?primarily of workers in NGO's and some unemployed people but we would very much like to belong to a union. In the past I have both worked for and been a member of COSATU but as you know COSATU is very much a Nationalist union particularly since 1994 with its alliance with the ANC and SACP, it has also, lost a lot of its working class focus and shopfloor strenghth, choosing to follow a more corpratist model of unionism. These are issues with us?and the main reason why we would?not like to join COSATU. IYF tasked me to look into the possiblity of getting an IWW Chapter set up here and we would need to discuss this in our group a bit more but the idea of starting an IWW here comes, firstly from my belief in the model and principles of IWW, which my comrades share. We also think that our really really free markets would be a good place to begin recruitment campaigns. Our group is small at the moment and getting things going would take
 a lot of work, so recruiting, we think would be an important innitial step to build numbers and thus capacity.

?

In terms of what we would like to accomplish, we would like, for ourselves andother workers, to have a union that supports and provides space for libeterian thought and practice, one which is not linked to any politial party, one that REALLY challenges the Capitalist State and Capital but first and foremost one that organises, supports and empowers workers to engage with the problems and challenges they face on a daily basis in their workplace and their lives. This is the aspect which will require, at least innitially a lot of time and support in terms of training and providing knowledge of labour laws etc.

?

Sorry if this is a bit broad,?vague,?verbose and structureless. I think from here I would need to sit down and have a proper conversation, so that we can develop a more formal plan and idea. anyway hope this helps.

?

Yours in struggle

Mandy

?







?
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:59:39 -0800
> From: davekloker at yahoo.com
> Subject: IWW in South Africa
> To: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com
> CC: jkrpaniww at yahoo.com
> 
> Greetings,
> I am the chair of the International Solidarity Comission of the IWW. I am very excited about the prospect of an IWW chapter in Cape Town, particularly because I was just there this past July. I would love some more information as a next step in starting a branch. Are you doing any job site organizing? What drew you to the IWW? What would you like to accomplish with a branch in Cape Town? I look forward to hearing from you.
> Regards,
> Kloker, San Francisco Bay Area General Membership Branch, United States
> ?Creating love is not for the soft and sentimental among us. Love is a tough business.? Alix Spiegel
> 
> 
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 18 09:52:05 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:52:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
Message-ID: <88238.38398.qm@web30008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey folks

Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to secure a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so we've decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she will be trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the 31st. They are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around the theme of the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also invited us to contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or more) of us to give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it, what the motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?

I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to spread the word.

Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.

Cheers,
Andreas


Hi everyone, 
The new year is here, and we're 
planning our first Spore meeting for 2010. The theme is "Give It Up" - 
gift economies and the culture of giving. See Reality Sandwich (http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up) 
for more info. 
This 
month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market (see their 
Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163068200145) to 
bring you an afternoon event - Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at Zandvlei 
in Muizenberg.
The 
afternoon will include:
In the Market Space - 

the?Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items 
  that you no longer need or want to share freely with other members of your 
  community. Browse through the things others have brought and leave with what 
  your family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not." 
  Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are 
  an artist/performer/therapist or just have a 
  passion/service/expertise?you love to share, come prepared to 
  "show-and-tell" Activities for kids of all ages - live 
  music (to be confirmed)Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food & 
  drink to share
In the Gathering Space - 


  A 
  mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the theme of 
  giving
  A 
  discussion on Gift Economies (with guest 
  speakers)Opportunities for you 
  to share YOUR gift - if you are an artist/performer/therapist or just have a 
  passion/service/expertise?you love to share, come prepared to 
  "show-and-tell" 
What to expect 
- 
A relaxed, fun-filled 
  afternoon - take part in whatever way suits you, arrive & leave at times 
  that work for youA chance to give and 
  receive in new ways: come prepared to offer something - ANYTHING - and to go 
  home with a?gift you've receivedAn opportunity to 
  share your uniqueness with a willing audience
I'd 
like?help with -
Activities - please let me know if you are willing to 
  entertain kids, play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and you'd 
  like more information or help setting up...Creating the space - 
  I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the gathering space, if you can help, 
  get in touch please :-)
For more information, or 
if you'd like to chat about what you have to offer, please don't hesitate to 
contact me! 
?
Look forward to seeing 
you all there, 
Love, 

Gizelle
?
Evolver Spores: 
co-creating "the more beautiful world our hearts tell us is 
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 19 05:30:50 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:30:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Sunday's meeting
Message-ID: <905916.85829.qm@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey everyone



I just realised that I won't be able to make this Sunday's meeting -
got two documentary screenings (one in the afternoon, one in the
evening) on the day. Apologies.



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From megatrops at gmail.com  Wed Jan 20 02:30:17 2010
From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:30:17 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
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I think it's a good idea...but i cant offer my voice as it tends to shake
when there are too many people around. i can enact out scenarios dressed in
a clown suite rather - or make a puppet show to go with the talks (like
punch and judy - only capitalism and worker) ...

otherwise we can have a mini zine ready by then maybe? with writing and a
comics strip? is anyone free to create this? i can draw a comic with the
help of a writer and do the (simple) layout for the zine.

I propose something like this:


   -  positive examples of other things taken into the peoples hands that
   work - so some research needs to go in this direction, unless it's knowledge
   someone already has.
   - insight into the wrongs of capitalism
   - suggestions for freeing yourself in a world controlled by these
   systems. light daily insights to keep hearts high, and more serious long
   term instances to build community.
   - a comic strip illustrating something to do with freedom of expression

please comment and add to/take from these suggestions, they are not too
structured or precious. i'm not sure how much printing will cost. if we keep
it small and black and white and only print how ever many we will need for
that event then it might not be too bad.  3 x A4 sheets per zine will give
us 12 pages to work with if we print A5. i have a little money (for a
change) to put into this if others are tight this month.

i think it's very important to keep a sense of humor and fun about the zine,
make it an uplifting one, but one that takes reality seriously as well.


On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hey folks
>
> Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to secure
> a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so we've
> decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she will be
> trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the 31st. They
> are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around the theme of
> the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also invited us to
> contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or more) of us to
> give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it, what the
> motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?
>
> I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to spread
> the word.
>
> Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.
>
> Cheers,
> Andreas
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> The new year is here, and we're planning our first Spore meeting for 2010.
> The theme is *"Give It Up" - gift economies and the culture of giving*.
> See Reality Sandwich (
> http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up) for more info.
>
> This month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market (see
> their Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163068200145) to
> bring you an afternoon event - *Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at Zandvlei
> in Muizenberg*.
>
> The afternoon will include:
>
> *In the Market Space - *
>
>    - the Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items that you no
>    longer need or want to share freely with other members of your community.
>    Browse through the things others have brought and leave with what your
>    family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not."
>    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
>    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love
>    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
>    - Activities for kids of all ages - live music (to be confirmed)
>    - Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food & drink to share
>
> *In the Gathering Space -*
>
>    - A mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the
>    theme of giving
>    - A discussion on Gift Economies (with guest speakers)
>    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
>    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love
>    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
>
> *What to expect -*
>
>    - A relaxed, fun-filled afternoon - take part in whatever way suits
>    you, arrive & leave at times that work for you
>    - A chance to give and receive in new ways: come prepared to offer
>    something - ANYTHING - and to go home with a gift you've received
>    - An opportunity to share your uniqueness with a willing audience
>
> *I'd like help with -*
>
>    - Activities - please let me know if you are willing to entertain kids,
>    play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and you'd like more
>    information or help setting up...
>    - Creating the space - I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the
>    gathering space, if you can help, get in touch please :-)
>
> For more information, or if you'd like to chat about what you have to
> offer, please don't hesitate to contact me!
>
> Look forward to seeing you all there,
> Love,
> Gizelle
>
> *Evolver Spores: co-creating "the more beautiful world our hearts tell us
> is possible"*
>
>
>
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 20 03:02:02 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:02:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
In-Reply-To: <bc624db31001200230u66985284xa73dd74e1a3e289b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <102872.29673.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Meghan

Sounds great. Would be brilliant if we could get material together for a zine, but I don't think I'll have the time to much of a contribution before the end of the month. Photocopying might just be the cheapest way to do this with the small numbers we need - or am I wrong?

Andreas
 

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com> wrote:

From: meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:30 PM

I think it's a good idea...but i cant offer my voice as it tends to shake when there are too many people around. i can enact out scenarios dressed in a clown suite rather - or make a puppet show to go with the talks (like punch and judy - only?capitalism?and worker) ...?

otherwise we can have a mini zine ready by then maybe? with writing and a comics strip? is anyone free to create this? i can draw a comic with the help of a writer and do the (simple) layout for the zine.

I propose something like this:?
?positive examples of other things taken into the peoples hands that work - so some research needs to go in this direction, unless it's knowledge someone already has.
insight into the wrongs of?capitalismsuggestions for freeing yourself in a world controlled by these systems. light daily insights to keep hearts high, and more serious long term instances to build community.
a comic strip illustrating something to do with freedom of expressionplease comment and add to/take from these suggestions, they are not too structured or precious. i'm not sure how much printing will cost. if we keep it small and black and white and only print how ever many we will need for that event then it might not be too bad. ?3 x A4 sheets per zine will give us 12 pages to work with if we print A5. i have a little money (for a change) to put into this if others are tight this month.

i think it's very important to keep a sense of?humor?and fun about the zine, make it an uplifting one, but one that takes reality seriously as well.


On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey folks

Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to secure a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so we've decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she will be trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the 31st. They are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around the theme of the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also invited us to contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or more) of us to give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it, what the motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?


I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to spread the word.

Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.

Cheers,
Andreas


Hi everyone, 

The new year is here, and we're 
planning our first Spore meeting for 2010. The theme is "Give It Up" - 
gift economies and the culture of giving. See Reality Sandwich (http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up) 
for more info. 
This 
month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market (see their 
Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163068200145) to 
bring you an afternoon event - Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at Zandvlei 
in Muizenberg.
The 
afternoon will include:
In the Market Space - 

the?Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items 
  that you no longer need or want to share freely with other members of your 
  community. Browse through the things others have brought and leave with what 
  your family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not." 
  Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are 
  an artist/performer/therapist or just have a 
  passion/service/expertise?you love to share, come prepared to 
  "show-and-tell" Activities for kids of all ages - live 
  music (to be confirmed)Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food & 
  drink to share
In the Gathering Space - 


  A 
  mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the theme of 
  giving
  A 
  discussion on Gift Economies (with guest 
  speakers)Opportunities for you 
  to share YOUR gift - if you are an artist/performer/therapist or just have a 
  passion/service/expertise?you love to share, come prepared to 
  "show-and-tell" 
What to expect 
- 
A relaxed, fun-filled 
  afternoon - take part in whatever way suits you, arrive & leave at times 
  that work for youA chance to give and 
  receive in new ways: come prepared to offer something - ANYTHING - and to go 
  home with a?gift you've receivedAn opportunity to 
  share your uniqueness with a willing audience
I'd 
like?help with -
Activities - please let me know if you are willing to 
  entertain kids, play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and you'd 
  like more information or help setting up...Creating the space - 
  I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the gathering space, if you can help, 
  get in touch please :-)
For more information, or 
if you'd like to chat about what you have to offer, please don't hesitate to 
contact me! 
?
Look forward to seeing 
you all there, 
Love, 

Gizelle
?
Evolver Spores: 
co-creating "the more beautiful world our hearts tell us is 
possible"



      
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From caragh at zenbe.com  Wed Jan 20 03:22:46 2010
From: caragh at zenbe.com (caragh iles)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:22:46 +0000
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Iyf-ct Digest, Vol 9, Issue 10
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If you need help with the zine  I would love to cut, paste and bind :)

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> I think it's a good idea...but i cant offer my voice as it tends to shake
> when there are too many people around. i can enact out scenarios dressed in
> a clown suite rather - or make a puppet show to go with the talks (like
> punch and judy - only capitalism and worker) ...
> 
> otherwise we can have a mini zine ready by then maybe? with writing and a
> comics strip? is anyone free to create this? i can draw a comic with the
> help of a writer and do the (simple) layout for the zine.
> 
> I propose something like this:
> 
> 
>    -  positive examples of other things taken into the peoples hands that
>    work - so some research needs to go in this direction, unless it's knowledge
>    someone already has.
>    - insight into the wrongs of capitalism
>    - suggestions for freeing yourself in a world controlled by these
>    systems. light daily insights to keep hearts high, and more serious long
>    term instances to build community.
>    - a comic strip illustrating something to do with freedom of expression
> 
> please comment and add to/take from these suggestions, they are not too
> structured or precious. i'm not sure how much printing will cost. if we keep
> it small and black and white and only print how ever many we will need for
> that event then it might not be too bad.  3 x A4 sheets per zine will give
> us 12 pages to work with if we print A5. i have a little money (for a
> change) to put into this if others are tight this month.
> 
> i think it's very important to keep a sense of humor and fun about the zine,
> make it an uplifting one, but one that takes reality seriously as well.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
> > Hey folks
> >
> > Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to secure
> > a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so we've
> > decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she will be
> > trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the 31st. They
> > are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around the theme of
> > the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also invited us to
> > contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or more) of us to
> > give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it, what the
> > motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?
> >
> > I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to spread
> > the word.
> >
> > Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > The new year is here, and we're planning our first Spore meeting for 2010.
> > The theme is *"Give It Up" - gift economies and the culture of giving*.
> > See Reality Sandwich (
> > http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up) for more info.
> >
> > This month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market (see
> > their Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid3068200145) to
> > bring you an afternoon event - *Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at Zandvlei
> > in Muizenberg*.
> >
> > The afternoon will include:
> >
> > *In the Market Space - *
> >
> >    - the Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items that you no
> >    longer need or want to share freely with other members of your community.
> >    Browse through the things others have brought and leave with what your
> >    family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not."
> >    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
> >    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love
> >    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
> >    - Activities for kids of all ages - live music (to be confirmed)
> >    - Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food & drink to share
> >
> > *In the Gathering Space -*
> >
> >    - A mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the
> >    theme of giving
> >    - A discussion on Gift Economies (with guest speakers)
> >    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
> >    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love
> >    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
> >
> > *What to expect -*
> >
> >    - A relaxed, fun-filled afternoon - take part in whatever way suits
> >    you, arrive & leave at times that work for you
> >    - A chance to give and receive in new ways: come prepared to offer
> >    something - ANYTHING - and to go home with a gift you've received
> >    - An opportunity to share your uniqueness with a willing audience
> >
> > *I'd like help with -*
> >
> >    - Activities - please let me know if you are willing to entertain kids,
> >    play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and you'd like more
> >    information or help setting up...
> >    - Creating the space - I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the
> >    gathering space, if you can help, get in touch please :-)
> >
> > For more information, or if you'd like to chat about what you have to
> > offer, please don't hesitate to contact me!
> >
> > Look forward to seeing you all there,
> > Love,
> > Gizelle
> >
> > *Evolver Spores: co-creating "the more beautiful world our hearts tell us
> > is possible"*
> >
> >
> >
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> From: Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
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> 
> Hi Meghan
> 
> Sounds great. Would be brilliant if we could get material together for a zine, but I don't think I'll have the time to much of a contribution before the end of the month. Photocopying might just be the cheapest way to do this with the small numbers we need - or am I wrong?
> 
> Andreas
>  
> 
> --- On Wed, 1/20/10, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:30 PM
> 
> I think it's a good idea...but i cant offer my voice as it tends to shake when there are too many people around. i can enact out scenarios dressed in a clown suite rather - or make a puppet show to go with the talks (like punch and judy - only?capitalism?and worker) ...?
> 
> otherwise we can have a mini zine ready by then maybe? with writing and a comics strip? is anyone free to create this? i can draw a comic with the help of a writer and do the (simple) layout for the zine.
> 
> I propose something like this:?
> ?positive examples of other things taken into the peoples hands that work - so some research needs to go in this direction, unless it's knowledge someone already has.
> insight into the wrongs of?capitalismsuggestions for freeing yourself in a world controlled by these systems. light daily insights to keep hearts high, and more serious long term instances to build community.
> a comic strip illustrating something to do with freedom of expressionplease comment and add to/take from these suggestions, they are not too structured or precious. i'm not sure how much printing will cost. if we keep it small and black and white and only print how ever many we will need for that event then it might not be too bad. ?3 x A4 sheets per zine will give us 12 pages to work with if we print A5. i have a little money (for a change) to put into this if others are tight this month.
> 
> i think it's very important to keep a sense of?humor?and fun about the zine, make it an uplifting one, but one that takes reality seriously as well.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey folks
> 
> Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to secure a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so we've decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she will be trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the 31st. They are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around the theme of the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also invited us to contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or more) of us to give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it, what the motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?
> 
> 
> I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to spread the word.
> 
> Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andreas
> 
> 
> Hi everyone, 
> 
> The new year is here, and we're 
> planning our first Spore meeting for 2010. The theme is "Give It Up" - 
> gift economies and the culture of giving. See Reality Sandwich (http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up) 
> for more info. 
> This 
> month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market (see their 
> Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid3068200145) to 
> bring you an afternoon event - Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at Zandvlei 
> in Muizenberg.
> The 
> afternoon will include:
> In the Market Space - 
> 
> the?Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items 
>   that you no longer need or want to share freely with other members of your 
>   community. Browse through the things others have brought and leave with what 
>   your family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not." 
>   Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are 
>   an artist/performer/therapist or just have a 
>   passion/service/expertise?you love to share, come prepared to 
>   "show-and-tell" Activities for kids of all ages - live 
>   music (to be confirmed)Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food & 
>   drink to share
> In the Gathering Space - 
> 
> 
>   A 
>   mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the theme of 
>   giving
>   A 
>   discussion on Gift Economies (with guest 
>   speakers)Opportunities for you 
>   to share YOUR gift - if you are an artist/performer/therapist or just have a 
>   passion/service/expertise?you love to share, come prepared to 
>   "show-and-tell" 
> What to expect 
> - 
> A relaxed, fun-filled 
>   afternoon - take part in whatever way suits you, arrive & leave at times 
>   that work for youA chance to give and 
>   receive in new ways: come prepared to offer something - ANYTHING - and to go 
>   home with a?gift you've receivedAn opportunity to 
>   share your uniqueness with a willing audience
> I'd 
> like?help with -
> Activities - please let me know if you are willing to 
>   entertain kids, play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and you'd 
>   like more information or help setting up...Creating the space - 
>   I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the gathering space, if you can help, 
>   get in touch please :-)
> For more information, or 
> if you'd like to chat about what you have to offer, please don't hesitate to 
> contact me! 
> ?
> Look forward to seeing 
> you all there, 
> Love, 
> 
> Gizelle
> ?
> Evolver Spores: 
> co-creating "the more beautiful world our hearts tell us is 
> possible"
> 
> 
> 
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From megatrops at gmail.com  Wed Jan 20 03:27:39 2010
From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:27:39 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
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References: <bc624db31001200230u66985284xa73dd74e1a3e289b@mail.gmail.com>
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think your spot on.

ok we see what we can muster up. maybe its just pamphlets for this round...

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hi Meghan
>
> Sounds great. Would be brilliant if we could get material together for a
> zine, but I don't think I'll have the time to much of a contribution before
> the end of the month. Photocopying might just be the cheapest way to do this
> with the small numbers we need - or am I wrong?
>
> Andreas
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 1/20/10, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:30 PM
>
>
> I think it's a good idea...but i cant offer my voice as it tends to shake
> when there are too many people around. i can enact out scenarios dressed in
> a clown suite rather - or make a puppet show to go with the talks (like
> punch and judy - only capitalism and worker) ...
>
> otherwise we can have a mini zine ready by then maybe? with writing and a
> comics strip? is anyone free to create this? i can draw a comic with the
> help of a writer and do the (simple) layout for the zine.
>
> I propose something like this:
>
>
>    -  positive examples of other things taken into the peoples hands that
>    work - so some research needs to go in this direction, unless it's knowledge
>    someone already has.
>    - insight into the wrongs of capitalism
>    - suggestions for freeing yourself in a world controlled by these
>    systems. light daily insights to keep hearts high, and more serious long
>    term instances to build community.
>    - a comic strip illustrating something to do with freedom of expression
>
> please comment and add to/take from these suggestions, they are not too
> structured or precious. i'm not sure how much printing will cost. if we keep
> it small and black and white and only print how ever many we will need for
> that event then it might not be too bad.  3 x A4 sheets per zine will give
> us 12 pages to work with if we print A5. i have a little money (for a
> change) to put into this if others are tight this month.
>
> i think it's very important to keep a sense of humor and fun about the
> zine, make it an uplifting one, but one that takes reality seriously as
> well.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=andreas_spath at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> Hey folks
>>
>> Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to secure
>> a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so we've
>> decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she will be
>> trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the 31st. They
>> are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around the theme of
>> the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also invited us to
>> contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or more) of us to
>> give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it, what the
>> motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?
>>
>> I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to spread
>> the word.
>>
>> Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> The new year is here, and we're planning our first Spore meeting for 2010.
>> The theme is *"Give It Up" - gift economies and the culture of giving*.
>> See Reality Sandwich (
>> http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up) for more info.
>>
>> This month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market (see
>> their Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163068200145)
>> to bring you an afternoon event - *Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at
>> Zandvlei in Muizenberg*.
>>
>> The afternoon will include:
>>
>> *In the Market Space - *
>>
>>    - the Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items that you no
>>    longer need or want to share freely with other members of your community.
>>    Browse through the things others have brought and leave with what your
>>    family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not."
>>    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
>>    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love
>>    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
>>    - Activities for kids of all ages - live music (to be confirmed)
>>    - Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food & drink to share
>>
>> *In the Gathering Space -*
>>
>>    - A mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the
>>    theme of giving
>>    - A discussion on Gift Economies (with guest speakers)
>>    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
>>    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love
>>    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
>>
>> *What to expect -*
>>
>>    - A relaxed, fun-filled afternoon - take part in whatever way suits
>>    you, arrive & leave at times that work for you
>>    - A chance to give and receive in new ways: come prepared to offer
>>    something - ANYTHING - and to go home with a gift you've received
>>    - An opportunity to share your uniqueness with a willing audience
>>
>> *I'd like help with -*
>>
>>    - Activities - please let me know if you are willing to entertain
>>    kids, play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and you'd like more
>>    information or help setting up...
>>    - Creating the space - I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the
>>    gathering space, if you can help, get in touch please :-)
>>
>> For more information, or if you'd like to chat about what you have to
>> offer, please don't hesitate to contact me!
>>
>> Look forward to seeing you all there,
>> Love,
>> Gizelle
>>
>> *Evolver Spores: co-creating "the more beautiful world our hearts tell us
>> is possible"*
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:34:13 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Iyf-ct Digest, Vol 9, Issue 10
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billiant...lets try get some stuff together and see if we can pull it off...
i like the idea of cut, paste and bind :)

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:22 PM, caragh iles <caragh at zenbe.com> wrote:

> If you need help with the zine  I would love to cut, paste and bind :)
>
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> > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:30:17 +0200
> > From: meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
> > To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
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> >       <bc624db31001200230u66985284xa73dd74e1a3e289b at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I think it's a good idea...but i cant offer my voice as it tends to shake
> > when there are too many people around. i can enact out scenarios dressed
> in
> > a clown suite rather - or make a puppet show to go with the talks (like
> > punch and judy - only capitalism and worker) ...
> >
> > otherwise we can have a mini zine ready by then maybe? with writing and a
> > comics strip? is anyone free to create this? i can draw a comic with the
> > help of a writer and do the (simple) layout for the zine.
> >
> > I propose something like this:
> >
> >
> >    -  positive examples of other things taken into the peoples hands that
> >    work - so some research needs to go in this direction, unless it's
> knowledge
> >    someone already has.
> >    - insight into the wrongs of capitalism
> >    - suggestions for freeing yourself in a world controlled by these
> >    systems. light daily insights to keep hearts high, and more serious
> long
> >    term instances to build community.
> >    - a comic strip illustrating something to do with freedom of
> expression
> >
> > please comment and add to/take from these suggestions, they are not too
> > structured or precious. i'm not sure how much printing will cost. if we
> keep
> > it small and black and white and only print how ever many we will need
> for
> > that event then it might not be too bad.  3 x A4 sheets per zine will
> give
> > us 12 pages to work with if we print A5. i have a little money (for a
> > change) to put into this if others are tight this month.
> >
> > i think it's very important to keep a sense of humor and fun about the
> zine,
> > make it an uplifting one, but one that takes reality seriously as well.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Hey folks
> > >
> > > Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to
> secure
> > > a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so we've
> > > decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she
> will be
> > > trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the 31st.
> They
> > > are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around the
> theme of
> > > the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also invited
> us to
> > > contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or more) of
> us to
> > > give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it, what the
> > > motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?
> > >
> > > I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to
> spread
> > > the word.
> > >
> > > Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Andreas
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > The new year is here, and we're planning our first Spore meeting for
> 2010.
> > > The theme is *"Give It Up" - gift economies and the culture of giving*.
> > > See Reality Sandwich (
> > > http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up) for more
> info.
> > >
> > > This month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market
> (see
> > > their Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid 3068200145)
> to
> > > bring you an afternoon event - *Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at
> Zandvlei
> > > in Muizenberg*.
> > >
> > > The afternoon will include:
> > >
> > > *In the Market Space - *
> > >
> > >    - the Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items that you no
> > >    longer need or want to share freely with other members of your
> community.
> > >    Browse through the things others have brought and leave with what
> your
> > >    family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not."
> > >    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
> > >    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise
> you love
> > >    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
> > >    - Activities for kids of all ages - live music (to be confirmed)
> > >    - Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food & drink to share
> > >
> > > *In the Gathering Space -*
> > >
> > >    - A mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the
> > >    theme of giving
> > >    - A discussion on Gift Economies (with guest speakers)
> > >    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
> > >    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise
> you love
> > >    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
> > >
> > > *What to expect -*
> > >
> > >    - A relaxed, fun-filled afternoon - take part in whatever way suits
> > >    you, arrive & leave at times that work for you
> > >    - A chance to give and receive in new ways: come prepared to offer
> > >    something - ANYTHING - and to go home with a gift you've received
> > >    - An opportunity to share your uniqueness with a willing audience
> > >
> > > *I'd like help with -*
> > >
> > >    - Activities - please let me know if you are willing to entertain
> kids,
> > >    play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and you'd like
> more
> > >    information or help setting up...
> > >    - Creating the space - I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the
> > >    gathering space, if you can help, get in touch please :-)
> > >
> > > For more information, or if you'd like to chat about what you have to
> > > offer, please don't hesitate to contact me!
> > >
> > > Look forward to seeing you all there,
> > > Love,
> > > Gizelle
> > >
> > > *Evolver Spores: co-creating "the more beautiful world our hearts tell
> us
> > > is possible"*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> > > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
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> > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:02:02 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
> > To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> > Message-ID: <102872.29673.qm at web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi Meghan
> >
> > Sounds great. Would be brilliant if we could get material together for a
> zine, but I don't think I'll have the time to much of a contribution before
> the end of the month. Photocopying might just be the cheapest way to do this
> with the small numbers we need - or am I wrong?
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
> > To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:30 PM
> >
> > I think it's a good idea...but i cant offer my voice as it tends to shake
> when there are too many people around. i can enact out scenarios dressed in
> a clown suite rather - or make a puppet show to go with the talks (like
> punch and judy - only?capitalism?and worker) ...?
> >
> > otherwise we can have a mini zine ready by then maybe? with writing and a
> comics strip? is anyone free to create this? i can draw a comic with the
> help of a writer and do the (simple) layout for the zine.
> >
> > I propose something like this:?
> > ?positive examples of other things taken into the peoples hands that work
> - so some research needs to go in this direction, unless it's knowledge
> someone already has.
> > insight into the wrongs of?capitalismsuggestions for freeing yourself in
> a world controlled by these systems. light daily insights to keep hearts
> high, and more serious long term instances to build community.
> > a comic strip illustrating something to do with freedom of
> expressionplease comment and add to/take from these suggestions, they are
> not too structured or precious. i'm not sure how much printing will cost. if
> we keep it small and black and white and only print how ever many we will
> need for that event then it might not be too bad. ?3 x A4 sheets per zine
> will give us 12 pages to work with if we print A5. i have a little money
> (for a change) to put into this if others are tight this month.
> >
> > i think it's very important to keep a sense of?humor?and fun about the
> zine, make it an uplifting one, but one that takes reality seriously as
> well.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks
> >
> > Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to
> secure a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so
> we've decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she
> will be trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the
> 31st. They are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around
> the theme of the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also
> invited us to contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or
> more) of us to give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it,
> what the motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?
> >
> >
> > I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to spread
> the word.
> >
> > Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > The new year is here, and we're
> > planning our first Spore meeting for 2010. The theme is "Give It Up" -
> > gift economies and the culture of giving. See Reality Sandwich (
> http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up)
> > for more info.
> > This
> > month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market (see their
> > Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid 3068200145) to
> > bring you an afternoon event - Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at Zandvlei
> > in Muizenberg.
> > The
> > afternoon will include:
> > In the Market Space -
> >
> > the?Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items
> >   that you no longer need or want to share freely with other members of
> your
> >   community. Browse through the things others have brought and leave with
> what
> >   your family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not."
> >   Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are
> >   an artist/performer/therapist or just have a
> >   passion/service/expertise?you love to share, come prepared to
> >   "show-and-tell" Activities for kids of all ages - live
> >   music (to be confirmed)Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food
> &
> >   drink to share
> > In the Gathering Space -
> >
> >
> >   A
> >   mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the theme
> of
> >   giving
> >   A
> >   discussion on Gift Economies (with guest
> >   speakers)Opportunities for you
> >   to share YOUR gift - if you are an artist/performer/therapist or just
> have a
> >   passion/service/expertise?you love to share, come prepared to
> >   "show-and-tell"
> > What to expect
> > -
> > A relaxed, fun-filled
> >   afternoon - take part in whatever way suits you, arrive & leave at
> times
> >   that work for youA chance to give and
> >   receive in new ways: come prepared to offer something - ANYTHING - and
> to go
> >   home with a?gift you've receivedAn opportunity to
> >   share your uniqueness with a willing audience
> > I'd
> > like?help with -
> > Activities - please let me know if you are willing to
> >   entertain kids, play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and
> you'd
> >   like more information or help setting up...Creating the space -
> >   I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the gathering space, if you can
> help,
> >   get in touch please :-)
> > For more information, or
> > if you'd like to chat about what you have to offer, please don't hesitate
> to
> > contact me!
> > ?
> > Look forward to seeing
> > you all there,
> > Love,
> >
> > Gizelle
> > ?
> > Evolver Spores:
> > co-creating "the more beautiful world our hearts tell us is
> > possible"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Iyf-ct mailing list
> >
> > Iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> >
> > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iyf-ct
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:36:05 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Fwd: CDL W/Cape General Meeting Sat 23 January 2010
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This looks quite interesting...

*Subject: **CDL W/Cape General Meeting Sat 23 January 2010 *

 Dear Comrades

You are hereby informed and invited to attend the next general meeting of
the Conference for a Democratic Left (Western Cape) to be held on Saturday
23rd January (9.30am ? 1.30pm):

Venue: Elijah Loza Hall, Community House, Salt River

Programme/Agenda:


   1. Welcome/Introduction ? purpose of meeting.
   2. Attendance/Apologies
   3. Introductory input on CDL and process leading to the national meeting
   (19 ? 21st March 2010)
   4. Developing our perspectives and approach for taking forward the CDL
   towards a united front against poverty and capitalism. (Group
   discussions/commissions ? see discussion questions below)
   5. Finance and contributions.
   6. W/Cape preparations for national meeting.
   7. Way forward and next meeting.


*Discussion Questions:*

Read the minutes of the previous meeting workshop held on 16 December 2009
and discuss the following:


   1. What key dangers facing the working class at this time?



   1. What are the most important issues to organise mass campaigns around?



   1. How do we proceed after this meeting to work together in taking
   forward the campaign for a mass orientation of the CDL ? What is to be done?



   1. Are we directly developing a political formation? How does our mass
   campaigning around issues identified relate to this?



   1. The CDL is launching a united body of different and autonomous
   organisations and lots of individuals ? many without direct links to working
   class formations or communities. How should this be internally organised?



   1. Should this united body participate in the 2011 local elections and on
   what political basis?


Please confirm your attendance by not later than Wednesday 20th January.

Yours in solidarity.

Mazibuko Jara and Martin Jansen
*(on behalf of Steering Committee)***







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From: sleepingmantis at gmail.com (Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:17:49 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
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I like the zine idea and it's cool that the evolver people are getting
involved. I've got time to help out with a zine, generally free during
weekdays.


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com> wrote:

> think your spot on.
>
> ok we see what we can muster up. maybe its just pamphlets for this round...
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Meghan
>>
>> Sounds great. Would be brilliant if we could get material together for a
>> zine, but I don't think I'll have the time to much of a contribution before
>> the end of the month. Photocopying might just be the cheapest way to do this
>> with the small numbers we need - or am I wrong?
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 1/20/10, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
>> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
>> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:30 PM
>>
>>
>> I think it's a good idea...but i cant offer my voice as it tends to shake
>> when there are too many people around. i can enact out scenarios dressed in
>> a clown suite rather - or make a puppet show to go with the talks (like
>> punch and judy - only capitalism and worker) ...
>>
>> otherwise we can have a mini zine ready by then maybe? with writing and a
>> comics strip? is anyone free to create this? i can draw a comic with the
>> help of a writer and do the (simple) layout for the zine.
>>
>> I propose something like this:
>>
>>
>>    -  positive examples of other things taken into the peoples hands that
>>    work - so some research needs to go in this direction, unless it's knowledge
>>    someone already has.
>>    - insight into the wrongs of capitalism
>>    - suggestions for freeing yourself in a world controlled by these
>>    systems. light daily insights to keep hearts high, and more serious long
>>    term instances to build community.
>>    - a comic strip illustrating something to do with freedom of
>>    expression
>>
>> please comment and add to/take from these suggestions, they are not too
>> structured or precious. i'm not sure how much printing will cost. if we keep
>> it small and black and white and only print how ever many we will need for
>> that event then it might not be too bad.  3 x A4 sheets per zine will give
>> us 12 pages to work with if we print A5. i have a little money (for a
>> change) to put into this if others are tight this month.
>>
>> i think it's very important to keep a sense of humor and fun about the
>> zine, make it an uplifting one, but one that takes reality seriously as
>> well.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=andreas_spath at yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hey folks
>>>
>>> Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to
>>> secure a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so
>>> we've decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she
>>> will be trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the
>>> 31st. They are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around
>>> the theme of the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also
>>> invited us to contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or
>>> more) of us to give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it,
>>> what the motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?
>>>
>>> I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to spread
>>> the word.
>>>
>>> Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> The new year is here, and we're planning our first Spore meeting for
>>> 2010. The theme is *"Give It Up" - gift economies and the culture of
>>> giving*. See Reality Sandwich (
>>> http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up) for more info.
>>>
>>>
>>> This month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market (see
>>> their Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163068200145)
>>> to bring you an afternoon event - *Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at
>>> Zandvlei in Muizenberg*.
>>>
>>> The afternoon will include:
>>>
>>> *In the Market Space - *
>>>
>>>    - the Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items that you no
>>>    longer need or want to share freely with other members of your community.
>>>    Browse through the things others have brought and leave with what your
>>>    family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not."
>>>    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
>>>    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love
>>>    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
>>>    - Activities for kids of all ages - live music (to be confirmed)
>>>    - Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food & drink to share
>>>
>>> *In the Gathering Space -*
>>>
>>>    - A mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the
>>>    theme of giving
>>>    - A discussion on Gift Economies (with guest speakers)
>>>    - Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an
>>>    artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love
>>>    to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell"
>>>
>>> *What to expect -*
>>>
>>>    - A relaxed, fun-filled afternoon - take part in whatever way suits
>>>    you, arrive & leave at times that work for you
>>>    - A chance to give and receive in new ways: come prepared to offer
>>>    something - ANYTHING - and to go home with a gift you've received
>>>    - An opportunity to share your uniqueness with a willing audience
>>>
>>> *I'd like help with -*
>>>
>>>    - Activities - please let me know if you are willing to entertain
>>>    kids, play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and you'd like more
>>>    information or help setting up...
>>>    - Creating the space - I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the
>>>    gathering space, if you can help, get in touch please :-)
>>>
>>> For more information, or if you'd like to chat about what you have to
>>> offer, please don't hesitate to contact me!
>>>
>>> Look forward to seeing you all there,
>>> Love,
>>> Gizelle
>>>
>>> *Evolver Spores: co-creating "the more beautiful world our hearts tell
>>> us is possible"*
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Wed Jan 20 05:54:03 2010
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (Peter van Heusden)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:54:03 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Looking for a place for someone to crash
Message-ID: <4B570AFB.3030002@webbedfeet.co.za>

Michael Graaf, who I know from my time in Earthlife Africa, is in CT
looking for somewhere to crash and ultimately somewhere to live. He's
gonna be studying at UCT. Here's a message he put out on FB:

"After drama and delays, I have moved to CT to complete my studies, and
am plunging into an overheated housing market.

I want to live in a decent communal house, even if I have to help start
one. I am more drawn to a selection by networking and referrals than a
soulless capitalist marketplace."

If anyone knows of a place, please let Michael know on 0726963053 or
m_graaf at hotmail.com


From mandymoussouris at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 20 22:45:55 2010
From: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com (Mandy Moussouris)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:45:55 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM
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Hi, guy's all brilliant ideas. I wil lonly have cash on th 25th but can help with small contributuion then.

 

I think an input woudl be good but think a more workshoppy thing nicer and closer to our approach. Get people discussing things by innitiating questions or somethign like that, maybe even see if we could do the exercise Peter has been working on, would need to make it sort... etc.. but lets chat about this on Sunday. 

 

Can't remember if we let everyone know but at the last meeting we said we woudl meet this Sunday 11h00 at my place.

 

Mands



 


Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:30:17 +0200
From: megatrops at gmail.com
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] January RRFM

I think it's a good idea...but i cant offer my voice as it tends to shake when there are too many people around. i can enact out scenarios dressed in a clown suite rather - or make a puppet show to go with the talks (like punch and judy - only capitalism and worker) ... 

otherwise we can have a mini zine ready by then maybe? with writing and a comics strip? is anyone free to create this? i can draw a comic with the help of a writer and do the (simple) layout for the zine.

I propose something like this: 



 positive examples of other things taken into the peoples hands that work - so some research needs to go in this direction, unless it's knowledge someone already has.
insight into the wrongs of capitalism
suggestions for freeing yourself in a world controlled by these systems. light daily insights to keep hearts high, and more serious long term instances to build community.
a comic strip illustrating something to do with freedom of expression
please comment and add to/take from these suggestions, they are not too structured or precious. i'm not sure how much printing will cost. if we keep it small and black and white and only print how ever many we will need for that event then it might not be too bad.  3 x A4 sheets per zine will give us 12 pages to work with if we print A5. i have a little money (for a change) to put into this if others are tight this month.

i think it's very important to keep a sense of humor and fun about the zine, make it an uplifting one, but one that takes reality seriously as well.



On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com> wrote:





Hey folks

Have been speaking to Gizelle from evolver. She hasn't been able to secure a suitable venue that has both nice indoor and outdoor spaces, so we've decided to have the January RRFM back at the original venue, but she will be trying to organise a tent. The date is the last Sun in Jan - the 31st. They are planning some discussion/interaction/workshop stuff around the theme of the gift economy, which will happen in the tent. They've also invited us to contribute and participate, of course. She would like one (or more) of us to give an informal talk about the RRFM - why we're doing it, what the motivation is etc. Any volunteers for that?

I'll create a Facebook event for this tomorrow and we can start to spread the word.

Below is the email Gizelle sent out to the evolver crowd.

Cheers,
Andreas



Hi everyone, 

The new year is here, and we're planning our first Spore meeting for 2010. The theme is "Give It Up" - gift economies and the culture of giving. See Reality Sandwich (http://www.realitysandwich.com/evolver_spores_give_it_up) for more info. 

This month, we are collaborating with The Really Really Free Market (see their Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163068200145) to bring you an afternoon event - Sunday 31 January, 1pm - 4pm at Zandvlei in Muizenberg.

The afternoon will include:

In the Market Space - 


the Really Really Free Market - "Bring useful items that you no longer need or want to share freely with other members of your community. Browse through the things others have brought and leave with what your family needs, regardless of whether you brought something or not." 
Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell" 
Activities for kids of all ages - live music (to be confirmed)
Picnic area - bring kids / friends / extra food & drink to share
In the Gathering Space - 

A mini-workshop, with clay modelling and meditation to explore the theme of giving
A discussion on Gift Economies (with guest speakers)
Opportunities for you to share YOUR gift - if you are an artist/performer/therapist or just have a passion/service/expertise you love to share, come prepared to "show-and-tell" 
What to expect - 

A relaxed, fun-filled afternoon - take part in whatever way suits you, arrive & leave at times that work for you
A chance to give and receive in new ways: come prepared to offer something - ANYTHING - and to go home with a gift you've received
An opportunity to share your uniqueness with a willing audience
I'd like help with -

Activities - please let me know if you are willing to entertain kids, play music, give massages, read poetry, WHATEVER! and you'd like more information or help setting up...
Creating the space - I'd love to borrow a stretch tent for the gathering space, if you can help, get in touch please :-)
For more information, or if you'd like to chat about what you have to offer, please don't hesitate to contact me! 
 
Look forward to seeing you all there, 
Love, 
Gizelle
 
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From mandymoussouris at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 24 11:13:46 2010
From: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com (Mandy Moussouris)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:13:46 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Today's meeting
Message-ID: <COL105-W25AF0BD3D7DB94EF936AF1B5600@phx.gbl>


Hey everyone - I have internet at home at last... Yay!

At the meeting to day we agreed that we would:
1. Have a 'political' table
2. Have a register at the table for everyone who comes 
3. Have a flyer/info page which explains the RRFM and in particular the politics behind it
4. Depending on more news from IWW - have a recruitment point at the table

I will be training in Citrusdal for most of the week, so sorry if I don't reply to e-mails but will be back Friday evening and ready for the market.

Aluta continua
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 24 20:57:12 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:57:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Today's meeting
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All sounds brilliant ;-)

A

--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Today's meeting
To: "In your face" <iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 9:13 PM




Hey everyone - I have internet at home at last... Yay!

At the meeting to day we agreed that we would:
1. Have a 'political' table
2. Have a register at the table for everyone who comes 
3. Have a flyer/info page which explains the RRFM and in particular the politics behind it
4. Depending on more news from IWW - have a recruitment point at the table

I will be training in Citrusdal for most of the week, so sorry if I don't reply to e-mails but will be back Friday evening and ready for the market.

Aluta continua
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From megatrops at gmail.com  Mon Jan 25 03:08:59 2010
From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:08:59 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Today's meeting
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sounds great - i offer to put any propaganda together on a flyer ready for
print, even to print and photocopy if no one else can. i'll send the
finished one to you all by thurs so if you have an option you can photocopy
as well.

sorry again for not being at this meeting. something's gone wrong in my head
and i can seem to remember things. it may have to do with moving out,
breaking up and other general days of our lives drama. anything i can do
over the net i will.

please send me written info, i still have what andreas wrote, should i just
use that?



On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>wrote:

> All sounds brilliant ;-)
>
> A
>
> --- On *Sun, 1/24/10, Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com>*wrote:
>
>
> From: Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Iyf-ct] Today's meeting
> To: "In your face" <iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 9:13 PM
>
>
> Hey everyone - I have internet at home at last... Yay!
>
> At the meeting to day we agreed that we would:
> 1. Have a 'political' table
> 2. Have a register at the table for everyone who comes
> 3. Have a flyer/info page which explains the RRFM and in particular the
> politics behind it
> 4. Depending on more news from IWW - have a recruitment point at the table
>
> I will be training in Citrusdal for most of the week, so sorry if I don't
> reply to e-mails but will be back Friday evening and ready for the market.
>
> Aluta continua
> Mands
>
>
>
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From mandymoussouris at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 25 03:41:25 2010
From: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com (Mandy Moussouris)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:41:25 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Today's meeting
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Hey meg - sorry to hear you are having a rough time. I had offered to do a short info - propaganda paragraph, will try to do it tonight before I leave for Citrusdal tomorrow. We felt it shoudl be more political than the general one on the internet





 


Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:08:59 +0200
From: megatrops at gmail.com
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] Today's meeting

sounds great - i offer to put any propaganda together on a flyer ready for print, even to print and photocopy if no one else can. i'll send the finished one to you all by thurs so if you have an option you can photocopy as well. 

sorry again for not being at this meeting. something's gone wrong in my head and i can seem to remember things. it may have to do with moving out, breaking up and other general days of our lives drama. anything i can do over the net i will. 

please send me written info, i still have what andreas wrote, should i just use that?




On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com> wrote:





All sounds brilliant ;-)

A

--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Today's meeting
To: "In your face" <iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 9:13 PM





Hey everyone - I have internet at home at last... Yay!

At the meeting to day we agreed that we would:
1. Have a 'political' table
2. Have a register at the table for everyone who comes 
3. Have a flyer/info page which explains the RRFM and in particular the politics behind it
4. Depending on more news from IWW - have a recruitment point at the table

I will be training in Citrusdal for most of the week, so sorry if I don't reply to e-mails but will be back Friday evening and ready for the market.

Aluta continua
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From mandymoussouris at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 25 10:42:20 2010
From: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com (Mandy Moussouris)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:42:20 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Text for flyer
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Hi Guys,

Here is my first bash. We thought if we could do A5, save paper and printing costs that would probably work best. Now that I have bashed something out, if everyone thinks its okay, I thought we could do the text on one side and the quotes the other. So back to back 4 A5 pamphlets per page....?

Okay, so below is the text - it's draft and you will see interms of the quotes based on my personal favourite...  Please change add etc...

I will not be able to comment until I get back, so I think you guys should bash it out and go ahead with final version. Here it is:



What is the Really Really Free Market?

 

The Really Really Free Market (RRFM) is a space where we
honour the value of eachother. 

It is an anti-capitalist space where value is not about what
you own, earn or contribute to the great machine of capitalism. 

It is where value is in sharing the riches of each
individual who chooses to join our free market. 

A market without money, without exchange, without a boss. 

Where the collective of everyone who takes part freely and
without constraint, other than the respect of each other, is what drives it.

The RRFM is the living embodiment of what we as free people
of the world can do without a state, without money, without exploitation and
without capitalism.


?In our civilised societies we are rich. Why then are the
many poor? Why this painful drudgery for the masses?... This rich endowment,
painfully won, builded, fashioned, or invented by our ancestors, must become
common property, so that the collective interests of men [and women] may gain
from it the greatest good of all... The well being of all... All is for all!?

?In working to put an end to the division between master and
slave we work for the happiness of both, for the happiness of humanity.?

Excerpts from ?The
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 25 20:46:11 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:46:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Text for flyer
In-Reply-To: <COL105-W42F3A200EC12DAFA7670A1B55F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <105814.70702.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Brilliant Mandy!

A

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Text for flyer
To: "In your face" <iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 8:42 PM




Hi Guys,

Here is my first bash. We thought if we could do A5, save paper and printing costs that would probably work best. Now that I have bashed something out, if everyone thinks its okay, I thought we could do the text on one side and the quotes the other. So back to back 4 A5 pamphlets per page....?

Okay, so below is the text - it's draft and you will see interms of the quotes based on my personal favourite...  Please change add etc...

I will not be able to comment until I get back, so I think you guys should bash it out and go ahead with final version. Here it is:





What is the Really Really Free Market?

 ? 

The Really Really Free Market (RRFM) is a space where we
honour the value of eachother. 

It is an anti-capitalist space where value is not about what
you own, earn or contribute to the great machine of capitalism. 

It is where value is in sharing the riches of each
individual who chooses to join our free market. 

A market without money, without exchange, without a boss. 

Where the collective of everyone who takes part freely and
without constraint, other than the respect of each other, is what drives it.

The RRFM is the living embodiment of what we as free people
of the world can do without a state, without money, without exploitation and
without capitalism.


?In our civilised societies we are rich. Why then are the
many poor? Why this painful drudgery for the masses?... This rich endowment,
painfully won, builded, fashioned, or invented by our ancestors, must become
common property, so that the collective interests of men [and women] may gain
from it the greatest good of all... The well being of all... All is for all!?

?In working to put an end to the division between master and
slave we work for the happiness of both, for the happiness of humanity.?

Excerpts from ?The
Conquest of Bread? by Peter Kropotkin






 		 	   		  
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From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Tue Jan 26 00:08:05 2010
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (Peter van Heusden)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:08:05 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Text for flyer
In-Reply-To: <COL105-W42F3A200EC12DAFA7670A1B55F0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL105-W42F3A200EC12DAFA7670A1B55F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B5EA2E5.4090306@webbedfeet.co.za>

GREAT text. Just... we do have exchange in the RRFM, but its exchange
without equivalent. Without measure. I'm trying to think up a non-geeky
way of describing this!

Peter

> Hi Guys,
>
> Here is my first bash. We thought if we could do A5, save paper and
> printing costs that would probably work best. Now that I have bashed
> something out, if everyone thinks its okay, I thought we could do the
> text on one side and the quotes the other. So back to back 4 A5
> pamphlets per page....?
>
> Okay, so below is the text - it's draft and you will see interms of
> the quotes based on my personal favourite... Please change add etc...
>
> I will not be able to comment until I get back, so I think you guys
> should bash it out and go ahead with final version. Here it is:
>
>
>     What is the Really Really Free Market?
>
>  
>
> The Really Really Free Market (RRFM) is a space where we honour the
> value of eachother.
>
> It is an anti-capitalist space where value is not about what you own,
> earn or contribute to the great machine of capitalism.
>
> It is where value is in sharing the riches of each individual who
> chooses to join our free market.
>
> A market without money, without exchange, without a boss.
>
> Where the collective of everyone who takes part freely and without
> constraint, other than the respect of each other, is what drives it.
>
> The RRFM is the living embodiment of what we as free people of the
> world can do without a state, without money, without exploitation and
> without capitalism.
>
>
> ?In our civilised societies we are rich. Why then are the many poor?
> Why this painful drudgery for the masses?... This rich endowment,
> painfully won, builded, fashioned, or invented by our ancestors, must
> become common property, so that the collective interests of men [and
> women] may gain from it the greatest good of all... The well being of
> all... All is for all!?
>
> ?In working to put an end to the division between master and slave we
> work for the happiness of both, for the happiness of humanity.?
>
> Excerpts from ?The Conquest of Bread? by Peter Kropotkin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From megatrops at gmail.com  Thu Jan 28 01:29:13 2010
From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:29:13 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] madagascaring
Message-ID: <bc624db31001280129k36e102ack9282f9831ea4d1ad@mail.gmail.com>

hi all

so it looks to be a yacht ing to madagascar. :) i put my name up at the
docks yacht club and a french sailor let me, and another friend, know that
he is needing crew to madagascar. he leaves on monday. this is quite a
sudden thing, so there is a lot that needs doing before then, projects to be
finished etc. i may not be able to make it this weekend ;(

i will email the pfd with the text mandy gave me, unless there is an updated
version? so we have flyers to hand out on dat.

it takes 15 days to get there and i'll be there for about three weeks after
arriving. so the plan is to be back mid march, which means i miss the next
RRFM as well ;(
I hope it all goes smoothly. i bumped into a woman who rocked up at the vlei
last weekend thinking it was on with a car full of goodies! i told her to
check the facebook group for dates next time!! anyway, it seems people are
keen ans waiting eagerly for it.

chat soon, and good luck

if anyone has connections with people/ ngo's etc in madagascar pls let me
know, i'd love to meet people and do things whilst there.

m

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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 29 06:32:57 2010
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:32:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Evolver
Message-ID: <578208.76233.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey folks



See you all on Sunday. I'll be there early to see if the Evolver folks
need help - haven't heard from the again, but assume they'll come...



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From megatrops at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 09:34:08 2010
From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:34:08 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Evolver
In-Reply-To: <578208.76233.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <578208.76233.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bc624db31001290934l5115831dm50a5d004cd6d039c@mail.gmail.com>

Brilliant - I'm leaving on Tuesday now, so I hope I can make sunday, if all
goes to plan....flyer to follow. It's saved as a PNG which means you can
print it on any colour etc. 2 per A4 and only one side.
So you need to cut the A4 in half and you get 2 A5's ... as I'm sure you
already know

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Andreas Spath <andreas_spath at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hey folks
>
> See you all on Sunday. I'll be there early to see if the Evolver folks need
> help - haven't heard from the again, but assume they'll come...
>
> Andreas
>
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From megatrops at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 09:41:00 2010
From: megatrops at gmail.com (meghan judge)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:41:00 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] RRFM Flyer to be printed and photocopied
Message-ID: <bc624db31001290941p4f034d93m94efe08fb986980@mail.gmail.com>

by whoever can

I'll try drop by Sunday and hand a few out, unfortunately I wont be able to
stay long. Hope the flyer is fine??

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From mandymoussouris at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 29 23:06:58 2010
From: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com (Mandy Moussouris)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:06:58 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] RRFM Flyer to be printed and photocopied
In-Reply-To: <bc624db31001290941p4f034d93m94efe08fb986980@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc624db31001290941p4f034d93m94efe08fb986980@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL105-W49D16210405827FE08C0D5B55A0@phx.gbl>


Hey all

I am back from the back of beyond and have peaches and grapes for the RRFM from the farm workers. Thanks Meg for the flyer will print as much as I can for tomorrow (Madagascar sounds great will see if I can find anything out about comrades there) - still no news from IWW yet... See you tomorrow, will be there bit early too A.

Later
Mands




Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:41:00 +0200
From: megatrops at gmail.com
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Subject: [Iyf-ct] RRFM Flyer to be printed and photocopied

by whoever can

I'll try drop by Sunday and hand a few out, unfortunately I wont be able to stay long. Hope the flyer is fine??
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