From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 00:37:27 2009
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:37:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] meeting?!
Message-ID: <270826.60439.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey folks

Did anyone sent out any invites yet? Is the meeting actually happening? I just don't want to send it out on Facebook unless I know we're really going ahead with it...

Andreas



      
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From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Mon Jun  1 04:40:37 2009
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (pvh at webbedfeet.co.za)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:40:37 +0200 (SAST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] After Nope! : keeping politics In Your Face
Message-ID: <2aa7201cf99d63f0083666747bdd7d6d.squirrel@wfeet.za.net>

[this is what i sent out as an invite just now]

Hi there

Now that all the election hype is over, what?s next for
progressive Capetonians?

A few of us who were involved in the NOPE! project (www.nope.org.za) in
Cape Town during the run-up to the elections are inviting you to an open
meeting to discuss a way forward. We are a bunch of friendly anarchists,
autonomists, anti-authoritarians and anti-capitalists who would like to
explore new, fun and exciting ways of doing politics in Cape Town outside
of the oppressive reach of professional politicians, political parties and
hierarchical power relationships.

If you are frustrated with politics as usual and if you
are interested in experimenting with and opening up alternative and
innovative progressive political spaces and discussions and are keen to
make connections with like-minded people, why don?t you join us:

Saturday 6 June

2 pm

Community House, 41 Salt River Road, Salt River

For more info call Peter 083 256 0457





From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 06:03:05 2009
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:03:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] After Nope! : keeping politics In Your Face
Message-ID: <257443.49431.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yay, cool. Thanks Peter. I've just set up an event on the Nope! Facebook group.

Andreas

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, pvh at webbedfeet.co.za <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za> wrote:

From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>
Subject: [Iyf-ct] After Nope! : keeping politics In Your Face
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 2:40 PM

[this is what i sent out as an invite just now]

Hi there

Now that all the election hype is over, what?s next for
progressive Capetonians?

A few of us who were involved in the NOPE! project (www.nope.org.za) in
Cape Town during the run-up to the elections are inviting you to an open
meeting to discuss a way forward. We are a bunch of friendly anarchists,
autonomists, anti-authoritarians and anti-capitalists who would like to
explore new, fun and exciting ways of doing politics in Cape Town outside
of the oppressive reach of professional politicians, political parties and
hierarchical power relationships.

If you are frustrated with politics as usual and if you
are interested in experimenting with and opening up alternative and
innovative progressive political spaces and discussions and are keen to
make connections with like-minded people, why don?t you join us:

Saturday 6 June

2 pm

Community House, 41 Salt River Road, Salt River

For more info call Peter 083 256 0457



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From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Mon Jun  1 06:06:28 2009
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (pvh at webbedfeet.co.za)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:06:28 +0200 (SAST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] [Fwd: Re: After Nope! : keeping politics In Your Face]
Message-ID: <d7794f090f6226fcdf1c37769b9b4492.squirrel@wfeet.za.net>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: After Nope! : keeping politics In Your Face
From:    "Jared Sacks" <jaredsacks at gmail.com>
Date:    Mon, June 1, 2009 2:52 pm
To:      pvh at webbedfeet.co.za
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

whats the meeting about exactly? is there a specific focus?

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za> wrote:

> Hi there
>
> Now that all the election hype is over, what?s next for
> progressive Capetonians?
>
> A few of us who were involved in the NOPE! project (www.nope.org.za)
> in Cape Town during the run-up to the elections are inviting you to an open
> meeting to discuss a way forward. We are a bunch of friendly anarchists,
> autonomists, anti-authoritarians and anti-capitalists who would like to
> explore new, fun and exciting ways of doing politics in Cape Town outside
> of the oppressive reach of professional politicians, political parties and
> hierarchical power relationships.
>
> If you are frustrated with politics as usual and if you
> are interested in experimenting with and opening up alternative and
> innovative progressive political spaces and discussions and are keen to
> make connections with like-minded people, why don?t you join us:
>
> Saturday 6 June
>
> 2 pm
>
> Community House, 41 Salt River Road, Salt River
>
> For more info call Peter 083 256 0457
>
>


-- 
Jared Sacks
+27-79-512-5677 cell rsa ~~ +27-21-448-2101 landline rsa ~~ 0866596246
domestic fax

Chosa.org ~~ BeWelcome.org ~~ Change.org/chosa ~~ Ubuntu.com ~~
Antieviction.org.za ~~ Abahlali.org

"When two elephants fight, the grass suffers; and, when the same two
elephants make love, the grass also suffers" - Swahili proverb
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 06:17:58 2009
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:17:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] [Fwd: Re: After Nope! : keeping politics In Your Face]
Message-ID: <93380.87497.qm@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'd suggest we think of the meeting as a sort of brain-storming session. If we're on the same page politically (waah?!), how can we "do politics" in CT now? What sorts of events/actions could we plan and organise?

A 

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, pvh at webbedfeet.co.za <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za> wrote:

From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za>
Subject: [Iyf-ct] [Fwd: Re: After Nope! : keeping politics In Your Face]
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:06 PM

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: After Nope! : keeping politics In Your Face
From:? ? "Jared Sacks" <jaredsacks at gmail.com>
Date:? ? Mon, June 1, 2009 2:52 pm
To:? ? ? pvh at webbedfeet.co.za
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

whats the meeting about exactly? is there a specific focus?

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, <pvh at webbedfeet.co.za> wrote:

> Hi there
>
> Now that all the election hype is over, what?s next for
> progressive Capetonians?
>
> A few of us who were involved in the NOPE! project (www.nope.org.za)
> in Cape Town during the run-up to the elections are inviting you to an open
> meeting to discuss a way forward. We are a bunch of friendly anarchists,
> autonomists, anti-authoritarians and anti-capitalists who would like to
> explore new, fun and exciting ways of doing politics in Cape Town outside
> of the oppressive reach of professional politicians, political parties and
> hierarchical power relationships.
>
> If you are frustrated with politics as usual and if you
> are interested in experimenting with and opening up alternative and
> innovative progressive political spaces and discussions and are keen to
> make connections with like-minded people, why don?t you join us:
>
> Saturday 6 June
>
> 2 pm
>
> Community House, 41 Salt River Road, Salt River
>
> For more info call Peter 083 256 0457
>
>


-- 
Jared Sacks
+27-79-512-5677 cell rsa ~~ +27-21-448-2101 landline rsa ~~ 0866596246
domestic fax

Chosa.org ~~ BeWelcome.org ~~ Change.org/chosa ~~ Ubuntu.com ~~
Antieviction.org.za ~~ Abahlali.org

"When two elephants fight, the grass suffers; and, when the same two
elephants make love, the grass also suffers" - Swahili proverb

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From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Wed Jun  3 02:46:24 2009
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (pvh at webbedfeet.co.za)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:46:24 +0200 (SAST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Amandla News Diary?
Message-ID: <8feb9fefdfae2657e0b75fb446633e6e.squirrel@wfeet.za.net>

This sounds like something worth contributing to:


Want to promote an event, perspective or issue engaging community media?

The Alternative Information Development Centre (AIDC) is working in
partnership with the National Community Radio forum (NCRF) to produce a
quarterly Amandla! News Diary. The Diary aims to support community media
projects in South Africa to set a progressive news agenda and plan for
their current affairs programing/ editorial - supporting them to develop a
practice of 'peoples media' rather than aping the commercial and public
media (following their stories, angles, and sources).

The Diary will contain a calendar of events and commemorations as well as
contact detail of relevant sources and will be printed as a poster and
sent to all community radio stations (an other media) to display in their
newsrooms every 3 months.

Please support this initiative by sending through a list of
events/commemorations you think should be covered by community media
during July, August, and September 2009. Also send the names,
designations, and contact details of relevant
comrades/spokespeople/sources that can speak to issues the events
highlight. Your events/spokespeople should reach mark at aidc.org.za no later
than 12 June.

Please share with relevant friends.

I look forward to your contributions.

Amandla!
Mark



From pvh at webbedfeet.co.za  Tue Jun  9 05:51:20 2009
From: pvh at webbedfeet.co.za (pvh at webbedfeet.co.za)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:51:20 +0200 (SAST)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] After the meeting
Message-ID: <1311757fc9d3d1e954e7b12b97c6e8c3.squirrel@wfeet.za.net>

Thanks everyone for a great meeting on Saturday - it really raised my
energy levels - and its *lovely* to be able to mix kids & meetings!!

I'm just sending an email to say I added Glen to the list and as I see it
I'm working on WWW site (Mandy you're going to find out about using that
nonprofit's number for our application?) - I've identified some WWW space
and am fiddling around with software for the WWW site - will let you all
know progress.

Peter




From emmanence at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 01:28:37 2009
From: emmanence at gmail.com (Emma Harvey)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:28:37 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Iyf-ct Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1244574005.14045.iyf-ct@lists.resist.ca>
References: <mailman.9.1244574005.14045.iyf-ct@lists.resist.ca>
Message-ID: <4d27972e0906100128n19b35441x9d24107c8d8da14e@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

Try www.withtank.co.za, they have a great way for you to build sites using a
combination of blog style stuff, uploading pictures, and making albums. Very
useful, and has a free option.

Emma

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> Thanks everyone for a great meeting on Saturday - it really raised my
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> I'm just sending an email to say I added Glen to the list and as I see it
> I'm working on WWW site (Mandy you're going to find out about using that
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there is a problem, or point the finger at who caused the problem, or throw
stones at the people that benefit from the problem...The single most radical
action we can take, the most critical and revolutionary, is to invent a new
and better way to do things. A way that changes the world and proves the
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 19 07:21:01 2009
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:21:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] What's happening?
Message-ID: <110363.78131.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey everyone



Those of you who came to the meeting at Community House will recall
that we decided to perhaps host a film screening as our next activity.
The movie we talked about is called Beyond Elections and you can find
out more about it here:

https://secure.pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=59



While You Were Sleeping will be screening this movie at the Labia
towards the end of next month. That doesn't mean we can't do it
ourselves either before or after.



I've got a bunch of other doccies which we might consider screening, including:



The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (about Venezuela):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Will_Not_Be_Televised_(documentary)



A couple of CrimethInc movies:

http://www.crimethinc.com/tools/dvd.html



The Take (about Argentina):

http://www.thetake.org/



Anarchism in America:

http://www.akpress.org/2006/items/anarchisminamericaakpress



The Iron Wall (about Palestine):

http://www.theironwall.ps/



Emma Goldman - An Exceedingly Dangerous Woman



Venezuela: Revolution From The Inside Out:

http://www.freedomvoices.org/new/venezuela



I don't necessarily want to be pushy about this, I would just like us to make a start on planning an event.



What does everyone else think?



Andreas

PS: I'll also start working on ideas for The Really Really Free Market soon...


      
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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 21 01:37:14 2009
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:37:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Reimagining Society Project
Message-ID: <776187.52440.qm@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Has anyone seen seen this:



http://www.zcommunications.org/zparecon/reimaginingsociety.htm



It's something called the Reimagining Society Program which we might
want to keep an eye on. There are participants from around the world
(including SA - Patrick Bond, Jonathan Grossman, Mandisi Majavu, etc.)
who will contribute essays and debate "the way forward" from an
essentially anti-authoriarian left perspective. Right down our alley, I
think...



There are already some opening essays on the website:



http://www.zcommunications.org/zparecon/rsessays.htm



Cheers,

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From glen at glt.co.za  Sun Jun 21 09:05:01 2009
From: glen at glt.co.za (Glen Thompson)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:05:01 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Reimagining Society Project
In-Reply-To: <776187.52440.qm@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <776187.52440.qm@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EC41AB76BAB8427D981D3FBEB09CAAC5@Travelmate>

Thanks for the link Andreas, 

Had a quick look over topics, may be useful to see how essays allow Iyf to
find practical frameworks to promote participative democracy.

Robin Hahnel's essay, Overcoming Blind Spots In Left Vision: Participatory
Planning, could be a good place to start?
http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/21474 

As Hahnel notes: "So while we must do all we can to tame markets for now,
because markets are antithetical to building the economics of equitable
cooperation we must also work to replace markets with an altogether
different coordinating mechanism."

I've just come out of a weekend at the .ZA Geek Retreat in Johannesburg,
while most of the discussions focused on market-led means to envision the
future of the Internet in SA, there were two points that provide tactical
opportunities to seek a role for the Internet in an equitable future: 

(1) The use of community wireless networks that provides free Internet
access within a neighbourhood (think of content delivery, education, VoIP
telephone calls), and 
(2) Consumer activism for increased access to broadband Internet
connectivity as well as to reduce the cost of the Internet, mobile Internet
(data), and SMS. 

What Iyf could do in this space is to publicise the real cost of
Internet/mobile connectivity and what free access may mean for participatory
democracy (e.g.: hosted applications to support community-run budgets). 

Cheers

Glen 

________________________________________
From: iyf-ct-bounces at lists.resist.ca [mailto:iyf-ct-bounces at lists.resist.ca]
On Behalf Of Andreas Spath
Sent: 21 June 2009 10:37 AM
To: In Your Face
Subject: [Iyf-ct] Reimagining Society Project

Has anyone seen seen this:

http://www.zcommunications.org/zparecon/reimaginingsociety.htm

It's something called the Reimagining Society Program which we might want to
keep an eye on. There are participants from around the world (including SA -
Patrick Bond, Jonathan Grossman, Mandisi Majavu, etc.) who will contribute
essays and debate "the way forward" from an essentially anti-authoriarian
left perspective. Right down our alley, I think...

There are already some opening essays on the website:

http://www.zcommunications.org/zparecon/rsessays.htm

Cheers,
Andreas





From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 23 22:02:22 2009
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:02:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] A potentially interesting organising tool?
Message-ID: <359003.99665.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A potentially interesting organising tool?

http://www.raisethefist.com/ern/

Glen, I think you've been thinking about something along these lines?

Cheers,
Andreas




      
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From mandymoussouris at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 25 03:24:40 2009
From: mandymoussouris at hotmail.com (Mandy Moussouris)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:24:40 +0200
Subject: [Iyf-ct] What's Happening
In-Reply-To: <359003.99665.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <359003.99665.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <COL105-W6043A9CD6687F929E7B772B5340@phx.gbl>


Hi Everyone, below are the very draft minutes from our first meeting - they are very sporadic, think because of all the up and down with the kids - please if I have left anything out etc. let me know and I will make changes, we can discuss in the next meeting.

 

On this, I have spoken to Andreas and we think we need to meet so we can start working on something... We can carry on with our usual Sunday's at 11h00, if so we coudl meet the 5th July or the 12th July - please let me know if this is cool and which date is best so we can try to get everyone there. Another option woudl be to do a week day evening but not sure if those with kids can do this (might be nice to be able to leave the little buggers at home ) Please get back with dates and ideas.

 

Comradely

Mandy


Meeting: 6 June 2009
Community House, Salt River, Cape Town
 
Present: Lettie, Peter, Andreas, James, Glen, Asanda, Megan, Mandy and lots of kids!
 
Discussion was held around the purpose of the meeting and it was agreed that, given NOPE was more like project and we wanted to do more beyond the state and elections, basically ? where to from here?
 
A long brainstorming session followed on numerous possibilities which focussed around the group wanting to share skills and news about different struggles, events and what?s happening in Cape Town and link up with these. Run events similar to NOPE which are political but FUN.
 
Many ideas were discussed and it was agreed we could do a number of things, the final focus areas follow but to do justice to all the ideas and make sure they are not lost, here are some of the groups thoughts as they emerged (Group please add to minutes if there is something cool that you think I left out ? ta!) including:
Film Screenings, Economics education, connect people through a database, training on newsletter development, the Really, Really Free Market (end November when the weather is better), Building art, Using technology like SMS?s, Get someone arrested for climbing a tree to protest CT by-laws, Study Group for skills and knowledge exchange, Music linked to art and animation, use of watercolour protest art.
 
Concrete things we can use and could do for now:

Set up a Website and mailing list ? Peter would do this, Mandy needs to find out if she can get an NPO number, ideas to include on the website would be book reviews stuff on Anarchist Kids and what we are doing.
Accessible Film screenings ? first one Beyond Elections
Book Fair
Political education workshop starting with the comrades Zabalaza have been contacted by. Megan can assist with illustrations and Mandy and Andreas con work on the material
Lettie would work on fundraising, we need equipment and should put a proposal together ? everyone should think about a fund raiser
 
 
Whilst the meeting agreed that we have different political positions we all agreed on four fundamental principles that would form the basis of the group:

Anti-Authoritarian 
Anti-Capitalist
Anti-Discrimination (We believe in equality for all in terms of race, sex, age, ability, sexual orientation etc.)
Communalist





 


Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:02:22 -0700
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com
To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
Subject: [Iyf-ct] A potentially interesting organising tool?





A potentially interesting organising tool?

http://www.raisethefist.com/ern/

Glen, I think you've been thinking about something along these lines?

Cheers,
Andreas



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From andreas_spath at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 11:25:13 2009
From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com (Andreas Spath)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Iyf-ct] mud stenciling
Message-ID: <765663.3794.qm@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A cool, eco-friendly way to do graffiti that is probably not covered by the new graffiti bylaws...

http://www.justseeds.org/blog/2009/06/illinois_torture_publicized_wi.html



      
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