[Iyf-ct] really really free market - communitree

Jack Hiphopdontstopalopoulous sleepingmantis at gmail.com
Wed Dec 9 03:31:08 PST 2009


I think some kind of pamphlet/zine thing could be good for getting certain
points across, but I also think that if there was more going on at the
market, as in 'activities' as well as free stuff, things might not have
turned the way they did. I'm thinking people would get more involved with
the market and engage themselves with the ideas involved if there were
things they could get involved in, with other people, on top of browsing the
aisles. The sewing section at the market was cool in that respect, and the
soccer game and kids treasure hunt are good ideas as well... i dunno -
obviously one would hope that it develops on its own as more people get
involved and get creative within the space. So are we having a meeting on
Sunday? I might have missed that along the thread somewhere...



On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Mandy Moussouris <
mandymoussouris at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Oh... and can anyone think of a cool slogan for a banner, I am in the
> midle of writing crappy funders reports and am brain dead at the moment,
> only thing I can think of is
> R.I.P Capitalism
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> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:16:59 -0800
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> From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com
> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] really really free market - communitree
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>   Hey
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> Perhaps then we should all sit down together for a while on Sunday and chat
> about what we could do. I like the idea of a zine Meghan.
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> A
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> --- On *Tue, 12/8/09, meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>* wrote:
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> From: meghan judge <megatrops at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] really really free market - communitree
> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 10:04 PM
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> Yo
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> I agree fullheartedly. I think we could not and should not merge too much
> with things esp if they are making money for a small group of artists in the
> name of creativity. it's a bit irritating to say the least...but never the
> less i wont be so hostile as to tell them to abolish themselves - peter you
> can do that, i'll just hide behind a tree with a video camera and cackle
> over the footage later ;)
>
> mznbrg is a tricky area because almost everyone there seems to be that way
> inclined, more info is a grea idea. we suggested bringing out some sort of
> standard pamphlet with all the info on it. maybe this should be a bit of a
> zene?
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> i also feel a little edgy with the swap n grab thing going on, but i think
> people will get the hang of it. esp with some guidance as to what it is we
> are trying to achieve here. we will see how this one turnes out, but a step
> away from everyone just bringing stuff to give away would be good. i think
> everyone enjoyed the market, but did become a little vulturesk towards the
> end, and feeling like they scored big time as opposed to shared a day with
> their community etc.
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> again it is something that should be created by the people as well, and
> these things take time to form, not all of them have the same books in their
> houses as some of us do., so the idea would be to get information to them to
> take home and figure out for themselves...?
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> fuck. i owe someone money for my nope shirt. so sorry...thats horrible!
> i'll bring it on sunday...shit...
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> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Mandy Moussouris <
> mandymoussouris at hotmail.com<http:///mc/compose?to=mandymoussouris@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> Hi everyone, left the T's with Peter I think. But I also think its going
> to take more than T-shirts. I will see if I can think of a banner or
> something. I will also do areading from Kropotkin or someting similar...
> still thinking ...but really need to do something a bit bigger. This may not
> necessarily be a very bad thing as it was bound to happen and shows that we
> have managed to create a space, we just need to make sure that we do not
> loose control of the ideological contestation of that space - learining in
> struggle I guess.
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> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:04:38 -0800
> From: andreas_spath at yahoo.com<http:///mc/compose?to=andreas_spath@yahoo.com>
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> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca <http:///mc/compose?to=iyf-ct@lists.resist.ca>
>  Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] really really free market - communitree
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>   I agree with Mandy - we should think of ways to inject political content
> into the thing. I think it's fine for it to be as popular as we can make it,
> the more the merrier, but we should come up with ways to conscientise people
> who come to the RRFM. Like the T-shirt idea. Mandy, do you still have NOPE
> shirts? Can't find mine!
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> Dreas
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> --- On *Tue, 12/8/09, Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com<http:///mc/compose?to=mandymoussouris@hotmail.com>
> >* wrote:
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> From: Mandy Moussouris <mandymoussouris at hotmail.com<http:///mc/compose?to=mandymoussouris@hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Iyf-ct] really really free market - communitree
> To: "In your face" <iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca<http:///mc/compose?to=iyf-ct@lists.resist.ca>
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> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 8:25 AM
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> On one level it's brilliant and I like it a lot, but my biggest concern is
> that the whole thing is being absorbed in to the whole Muizenberg Hippie
> thing - which is really cool but has no politics and without sounding too
> judgemental is very middle class with limited to no real connection with the
> broader working class. Whilst our flyer is a good flyer, I think we need to
> start bringing the politics in otherwise we face the danger of it become or
> beeing seen as a charity like thing... I was thinking last night that I
> should find some stuff to read but what else can we do - role play, some
> kind of education exercise... What does everyone else think? I also think we
> should all wear our NOPE t-shirts or other t's with political statements...
> Oh hell, clutching at straws here... My yoga teacher also said she woudl
> spread teh message through Commmunitree etc. networks
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> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:09:42 +0200
> From: megatrops at gmail.com <http:///mc/compose?to=megatrops@gmail.com>
> To: iyf-ct at lists.resist.ca <http:///mc/compose?to=iyf-ct@lists.resist.ca>
> Subject: [Iyf-ct] really really free market - communitree
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> hi guys
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> claire homeward of the communitree events that take place in muiznbrg
> village asked this:
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> Loved the free market - will def be at the next one....
> I wonder if you would like to make the free market part of the Communitree
> Heart space week happening from 14th - 19th Dec? Maybe there could be a
> section of the space that runs as a free market the whole week? And then we
> can donate everything that is left over. You could have some info about it
> up on the wall.
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> any thoughts on that?
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> meg
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