[IPSM] holy racist bullshit by the national post (corrected link)

Ishaq ishaq1823 at shaw.ca
Wed Jan 5 08:29:56 PST 2005


peace shelly,

actually, eugenics and the blood line thing was used before the 
holocaust and it was used, and still is, on blacks in north amerikkka -- 
not to mention natives. i believe it is called the "percent law". 
kkkanada, especially in the west coast, like to keep track of peoples 
racial and ethnic "perecent" heritgae for purity sake -- i've heard far 
too often the percentage of nonpure whiteness quoted in relation to 
people and associates.  if you ever see the film or play "showboat" it 
has a large element concerning this issue. infact, it's the centre of 
the plot.

as for "people with Native Status who look white (whatever that is)" 
well it'd  be pretty obvious consider the colonial thinking you have 
criticized is centered on appearence and skin tone.

as for your playing the 'free ride"  as "straw man" tactic these are the 
words of the supremacist you defend not mine nor the native peoples in 
general. it is like when people think that affirmative action is a "free 
ride" and not a tragic quota system for black people and other peoples 
who are not white making them an "other" (as well as, squabbling for the 
scraps tossed down at them by the ruling class) just like all successes 
or accomplishements made by black and native peoples, even in kkkanada, 
are down played as 'they only got it cuz they are black or native..." -- 
b.u.t. we are "racist" if we state the fact they most kkkanadians get 
things cuz they are white.

kkkanada is far better than the united states of shaytan in 
spindoctoring racial and ethinc issues from advanecments to injustices 
into their own colonial white favour with lack of flava.

i do beleive that what kkkanada feels that the native peoples will move 
away of the shiesty cultural imperialistic miscegenation which has 
infultrated and alomost destroyed the native peoples by making them end 
feeling the  superiority of the  eurocentric beautiy myth over their own 
vision and Culture. it will remove them from the "noble savage" status 
which whites can go running to when they get tired of the rat trap of 
colonial cut throat ubannegitivity and go "native" within a sterotypical 
vision of, as Akwesasne Phoenix writes of;

"...all those grey-haired academics prowling around the "Indigenous" 
scene who have suddenly discovered an "Indian" ancestor - we just never 
know when another one is going to pop out of the wood pile. ...Philip J. 
Deloria thinks they are seeking a connection with the primal purity they 
imagine we know. "Indians are associated with the land, and nature, and 
reality and authenticity. Indians are the people who possess the 
ultimate meanings and the ultimate truths on what America is about." 
This is often the white perception.

http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/36085.php

it's part of the "white gaze". it's no different than "negrophilia" 
where if you wanted a primal, rhythm based fun house of unbridled 
sexuality and nudity, away from the bordom of suburbia or the white hood 
you go connect with the darkies = blacks not to mention nice spiritual 
wisdome or street savey dropped on you between jigs.

see also:

http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/35704.php

to say that to avoid the assimilation with white folk or to not indulge 
in cultural imperialistic miscegenation will diminish the native 
population is pretty supremacist. it's to say that without the white in 
the mix the natives will cease to exist -- well that is what you just 
said actually, however, this is not the case.
for it is the whites who will diminish without the native and blacks in 
the mix, as they almost did centuries earlier before they received they 
help of the native people, and then pimped them and then kidnapped the 
blacks to do the work they are colonist feared so much. what then 
occurred was the whites got it twisted full effect and played the 
natives into feelin that they needed them and that the blacks were the 
lazy ones who feared work -- and both bought the lie about themsleves 
because they rarely got the chance to selfactualize and born amongst 
themselves and develope.  it's like the old trick of having your dog 
kidnapped and beaten till it's almost dead then you come and save it at 
the last moment -- the dog will feel loyal to you and defend you to the 
death not knowing that you set it up to be degraded and have it's 
behavior modified in the first place.

basically, it is an abusive relationship where the abuser maintains 
CONtrol by making the abuse believe they need them, that they are 
nothing without them and how the abused feels that they would rather 
deal with the abuse than be alone. however, they will not be alone once 
they get the abuseer away from them = this is the settlassholes fear -- 
self determination and the slaves of amerikkka chatting without them in 
the room.

so this thinking is the colonial thinking of supremcay which is set to 
subvert, discredit, disrupt and neutralize those not of european stock 
and who challenge the centre of power who seek voice, identity and 
culture outside the culture empirialism of a floundering currupt north 
amerikkkan system.

i think that the natives could do some good by following the in the way 
of iran or as muqtada al sadr says;

"if you were in my place you would do the same, fight the occupation, 
kick them out, fight for independence."

"Revolution is bloody, revolution is hostile, revolution knows no 
compromise, revolution overturns and destroys everything that gets in 
its way. And you, sitting around here like a knot on the wall, saying: 
'I'm going to love these folks no matter how much they hate me.' No,you 
need a revolution."
Malik Shabaaz (Malcom X), Message to the Grass Roots


http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/

http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/25243.php

we've seen it can be done...

peace

shelly wrote:

> hello ishaq:
>  
> This article is racist in the age-old colonial-style racism. It is the 
> kind of racism which founded Canada, and said since European culture 
> was the highest culture on the evolutionary scale (otherwise known as 
> Eurocentrism or white-supremacy) Indigenous Peoples would naturally 
> want to evolve (or assimilate) into it once they grew out of the 
> primitivism (inferiority) of their own culture.
>  
> I am not saying what Phil Fontaine said was racist, but rather the 
> journalist who said Phil Fontaine was being a reactionary to call Bill 
> C-31 "legislated extinction" and basically encouraged non-native 
> Canadians to debate what is the appropriate "cut off point", or blood 
> quantum, a person must have to still call themselves native. The same 
> kind of bullshit "science", called eugentics, used by Nazis during the 
> halocaust.
>  
> And I have to really disagree with your comments about Native Status 
> being a card folks hustle, Status being something that many 
> non-deserving people who don't even respect Natives are applying for 
> and getting, and that it gives them some kind of "free ride". Most 
> people I've met who regained Status, who didn't have status because 
> their mother married a non-native man, moved back to their mother's 
> communities precisely because they did not respect "Canadian" culture, 
> they know the ways in which a white supremacist culture works, and 
> have found home in their traditions and community, and struggle hard 
> to fight the constant attacks it comes under by Canada.
>  
> This is no "free ride". And distant relations, as you say, cannot 
> apply for status. It is only the children, not the grandchildren 
> (which in itself is not so distant) who can apply. My point, 
> especially, in calling this article racist is that it supports the 
> idea that the Canadian government and Canadian people at large should 
> be deciding for Native Peoples who can and cannot be Native. This is 
> none of our damn business. It is up to Indigenous Nations themselves 
> to decide. Only the racist colonial mentality itself allows Canadians 
> to feel they have the right to determine Indigenous Peoples' status.
>  
> And yes, there are people with Native Status who look white (whatever 
> that is), think white, and have nothing to do with native culture. 
> First, I think its pretty shifty to say Canadians should be able to 
> deny a person their nationality just because they don't "look" the 
> part. But as for the people who are Native, have Status, but have 
> nothing to do with traditional Native culture, I think you go too far 
> to denounce them as all out to "destroy the native peoples and 
> cultures, from the inside out, along with their rights, freedom and 
> cultures." Some, like the example of ex-Grand Chief James Gabriel in 
> Kanehsatake, I would agree are out for destruction. Others just 
> withdraw themselves, participate in other "cultures", and don't 
> interfer with those who do choose traditional Native culture. Some who 
> don't choose tradition too will come to the defense of traditionalists 
> when they are under attack.
>  
> It is not the place of non-natives to demand every person with Native 
> status be a traditionalist. This is like demanding all Canadians be 
> catholic. If people, like James Gabriel, do actively try to undermine 
> the rights, freedoms and culture of Indigenous Nations, then yes, they 
> have joined the colonial cause and are an enemy along with the rest of 
> the police, politicians, judges, journalist, etc. that make up the 
> colonial apparatus. But this is not ALL Native peoples who choose not 
> to be traditionalist.
>  
> And just to go back to the "free ride" point - there is no free ride 
> for any Indigenous person pretty much anywhere in the world. What 
> native peoples in Canada "get" is a drop in the bucket to what 
> Canadians and corporations get from the ongoing exploitation and theft 
> of native land and resources. And this is precisely why the Canadian 
> government wants to to limit, and eventually eliminate Indian Status 
> alltogether. If there are no "Status Indians" - Indigenous Nations 
> with inherant rights to the Land, then there are no "barriers" to 
> trade, to the exploitation of all "resources" on the Land.
>  
> Fontaine is rightly identifying another attempt, in Canada's long 
> history of attempts, to diminish the numbers of Indigenous Peoples 
> in the hopes that they'll eventually just disappear. This is why they 
> are measuring the amount of blood in each person that is Native vs. 
> Non-Native blood. It isn't about whether they are culturally Native at 
> all. There are many people with so-called "diminished" Native blood 
> who are active practitioners and teachers of tradition, and are at the 
> forefront of the anti-colonial/anti-imperial struggle. Measuring 
> blood-quantums is a typical colonial and imperialist strategy to 
> divide and conquer those who if they stand together could have a 
> fighting chance to defeat these global enemies.
>  
> in peace,
> shelly


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