[GSA Council] ASEQ Orientation and Reporting Lunch Meeting

[jasneet kaur]

Hello Alex,

This is just to let you know that I stand by you about everything that you
said in your email.

I encourage you to keep on doing the right thing and not get demotivated
with any negativity around. I and many councillors in the team do
acknowlegde your efforts and trust you!!

As a GSA member, I thank you for all the wonderful things the exec team
under you has pulled up so far in this year! :)

Regards,

Jasneet Kaur

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On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Alex Ocheoha <president at gsaconcordia.ca>
wrote:

> Hello Rahul,
>
>
> The issue with Keroles will be resolved. I did not initiate the problem.
> The GSA has been closed down several times in the past because of
> conflicts. It has never been my intention to create any conflict. I was
> told initially that the other 16 should be able to call the oversight
> committee to order and avoid a conflict. I have been praying for that to
> happen.
>
>
> I came to the university primarily to study and get a degree. Litigation
> is sometimes inevitable in some complex cases. I am not afraid of
> litigation, because I did not do anything wrong. If you have any strong
> reason to launch a legal case against me you can go ahead and do so. The
> good thing about court cases is that people who lie under oath are charged
> with perjury.
>
>
> Some lies have been said against me and some false accusations made. You
> are not speaking on behalf of council. If people on council have issues
> with me, it would have been because of what a few people like you have
> said, and the negative environment that was created. Sometimes there are
> two sides to a story, and it can be misleading when only one side is being
> heard. I have always been open to anyone approaching me for questions or
> clarifications.
>
>
> In this University I have had very good working relationships with several
> people, both students and people in the University administration for over
> 3 years. I have only had problems with a few people like you in the GSA who
> insult me at every opportunity and tell other people that I am difficult to
> work with. I do not think that anybody can function effectively in such an
> environment. In politics, people put their differences aside and work
> together for the good of people.
>
>
> Sometimes a simple solution to a problem might be treating me as human
> being, and listening to me. A good example is GSA’s cricket kit, which you
> should tell others the truth about. You borrowed the kit on behalf of an
> association that is not registered. You did not respect the contract you
> signed, which I expected you as a director to do so. I gave you a simple
> solution to bring back the kit, we inspect it and you enter another loan
> agreement, but you refused to do so. You now have a problem with me because
> I want to recover equipment that has been recovered twice in the past by
> other executives. I know the history from when the cricket kit was bought.
> No association rents their equipment indefinitely. You are the person
> trying to create a conflict out of this.
>
>
> I decided to run for the position of president because I wanted to help
> improve the association. If I do succeed we all get the credit, so I see no
> reason why you should be trying so hard to break me down. You bring up
> motions against me, which do not help students, but interferes in my work.
> I am sacrificing my time not because I want to but because I want the GSA
> to function effectively. I would have achieved a lot more by now if I did
> not have to deal with issues coming from people like you that insult me.
>
>
> You say that the greater issue GSA is facing right now is advocacy center,
> language classes, and academic events. On the academic events, I started
> planning for that despite it not being on my action plan for this semester.
> The language classes will start in January and will be a lot better. The
> French classes will help people who want to apply for immigration. We also
> hope to start the advocacy center in January. The office has been set up
> and is waiting for the hiring of the advocates. The delay was beyond our
> control. There have been no complaints about student advocacy, which an
> important service that the GSA provides. The students who are benefiting
> from this service appreciate my time.
>
>
> https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091213163416AAWVf8p
>
> http://ethics.ubc.ca/papers/invited/colero-html/
>
> I will ignore the material you copied and pasted on democracy and ethics
> from the link above, and only comment on human rights. I don’t understand
> why you will suggest zero bursary for an executive if you are enlightened
> on human rights. I don’t know how you will feel or react if you work for
> 40hr/week you are not paid. I don’t know if you will be full with joy if I
> am not paid. I don’t know if you will list that as an achievement on your
> CV or in a job interview. I don’t know why you started attacking me in the
> first instance.
>
>
> GSA is temporary position at a point in your life. I would not know what
> to say if you look back to this time 10 years from now and say you did the
> right thing. Associations put politics aside after elections. In actual
> politics some opponents hug each other after elections. People with
> differences of opinion usually agree through compromise not Coercion.
> Forcing somebody to do what you want without listening to their opinion is
> either wickedness or slavery, if you are not paying for every extra hour.
> If every director does the same thing as you, I will have people pulling me
> in many different directions.
>
>
> I considered resigning because of the abuses I have been going through. I
> did not resign because of the students that voted for me, plus the other 16
> directors and what I am hoping that we achieve.  I was gaining a lot more
> before I started this position. I am not in this position for my personal
> interest but for the interest of the association.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Alex Ocheoha*
> President
>
> Graduate Students Association
> Concordia University
> 2030 Mackay · Montreal · QC · H3N 1J1
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> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Rahul Kumar <rk8443 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Alex,
>>
>> One more thing, what ever you have for Keroles is between you and him.
>>
>> It will be good if you do not involve other council members in that. It's
>> meaningless to take a student association internal conflict outside the the
>> association.
>>
>> We all are students like you and we are not here to fight and launch
>> legal complain against each other.
>>
>> There where few places where even I could have launched cases against
>> you, and you are not the only one who has lawyers with you. But that's not
>> what I intend to do here.
>>
>> If you have noticed, the entire council has issues with you and only you.
>> So either the entire 19 members of the council are wrong and you are the
>> only one right or its just that you are so ignorant to see it by yourself
>> that even you are wrong at your own terms.
>>
>> If an initiative of resolving the issue is the main agenda for the topic,
>> only then the issue is resolved. If not then you keep dragging it till it
>> breaks and that leads to a never ending process of conflict between both.
>>
>> You may have lost your mind to the oblivion but please do become
>> infectious to the association with your current state of mind.
>>
>> There are even more greater issue GSA is facing right now, like we lack
>> in advocacy center, we lack in the language classes, we lack in academic
>> events and many more. And nothing has happened for these issues apart from
>> statements being written on paper referring to the work in progress tag.
>> And your lack of diligence for the respective issues is aren't compatible
>> to get the outcome.
>>
>> You won the election because of democracy and not because of presidential
>> rules. And so did all of use who are on the council and on the executives
>> committee.
>>
>> Let me enlighten you with the principles of Democracy: Rule of law,
>> freedom of press, respect of human rights, active political processes &
>> enlightened citizens.
>>
>> Each of these 'basic' to democracy, meaning that democracy can't exist
>> without all of them.
>>
>> 1. The Rule of Law - we are a association governed by laws, not by men.
>> Directors, Presidents and legislatures can't just do whatever they can get
>> away with, they are limited by law. Laws represent the will of the people.
>>
>> 2. Freedom of the Press - in a democracy it's people, the voters, who are
>> ultimately in control. The people need information in order to vote wisely,
>> and that's why we need a free press and freedom of political speech.
>>
>> 3. Respect of human rights - we must realize that people are the most
>> important thing, the purpose of government is to serve the needs of the
>> people, not vice versa. This is the main reason for the Bill of Rights.
>>
>> 4. Active Political Processes - democracy is not a spectator sport, it's
>> a participation sport. It won't work if most people don't take part. A lot
>> of the trouble we've been having in the US can be blamed on the lack of
>> participation of so many people, small voter turnouts, etc. The more people
>> who care enough to vote, and who then stick around to see how their votes
>> turned out, the better off we'll be.
>>
>> 5. Enlightened Citizens - This is another problem we have here. Citizens
>> must be educated and must understand the purpose of democracy, how and why
>> we have it. This takes a high literacy rate (along with a free press).
>>
>> So we have our own set of bylaws and we are not ignorant enough to read
>> it and not understand. So please stop imposing the act in which come up
>> with you laptop telling us that it's against the law.
>>
>> You talk about ethics, well by the you represent ethics it appears that
>> you have no understanding of the difference between person, professional
>> and global ethics.
>>
>> As you say right now "let me explain"
>>
>> *Principles of Personal Ethics*
>>
>> Personal ethics might also be called morality, since they reflect general
>> expectations of any person in any society, acting in any capacity. These
>> are the principles we try to instill in our children, and expect of one
>> another without needing to articulate the expectation or formalize it in
>> any way.
>>
>> Principles of Personal Ethics include:
>>
>> Concern for the well-being of others Respect for the autonomy of others
>> Trustworthiness & honesty Willing compliance with the law (with the
>> exception of civil disobedience) Basic justice; being fair Refusing to take
>> unfair advantage Benevolence: doing goodPreventing harm
>>
>>
>>
>> *Principles of Professional Ethics*
>>
>> Individuals acting in a professional capacity take on an additional
>> burden of ethical responsibility. For example, professional associations
>> have codes of ethics that prescribe required behavior within the context of
>> a professional practice such as medicine, law, accounting, or engineering.
>> These written codes provide rules of conduct and standards of behavior
>> based on the principles of Professional Ethics, which include:
>>
>> Impartiality; objectivity Openness; full disclosure. Confidentiality Due
>> diligence / duty of care.Fidelity to professional responsibilities.
>> Avoiding potential or apparent conflict of interest
>>
>> Even when not written into a code, principles of professional ethics are
>> usually expected of people in business, employees, volunteers, elected
>> representatives and so on.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Principles of Global Ethics*
>>
>> Global ethics are the most controversial of the three categories, and the
>> least understood. Open to wide interpretation as to how or whether they
>> should be applied, these principles can sometimes generate emotional
>> response and heated debate.
>>
>> Principles of Global Ethics include:
>>
>> Global justice (as reflected in international laws) Society before self /
>> social responsibility Environmental stewardship Interdependence &
>> responsibility for the ‘whole’Reverence for place
>>
>> Each of us influences the world by simply existing; and it is always wise
>> to ‘think globally’. An added measure of accountability is placed on
>> globally influential enterprises such as governments and transnational
>> corporations. (Responsibility comes with power whether we accept it or
>> not.) One of the burdens of leadership is to influence society and world
>> affairs in a positive way. Can a person, nation or company truly be
>> ‘successful’ while causing human suffering or irreparable environmental
>> damage? A more modern and complete model of success also considers impact
>> on humanity and the earth’s ecology.
>>
>> I hope you can stop sending us all that long essay at 3 AM in the night
>> and start focusing on the issue GSA has rather than your personal interest.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rahul Kumar.
>>
>> Hello Alex,
>>
>> Thank for the ASEQ thing.
>>
>> But can you please avoid for the lawyer presentation? I know you're
>> concerned about the way the council of directors are working right now but
>> this is not the right time.
>>
>> We have quite a lot of agenda on the table today and the presentation and
>> stuffs like that takes time so please ask him to present it in the January
>> council meeting. The guess that will be appropriate time for this.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rahul Kumar
>> On Nov 28, 2015 11:22 AM, "Alex Ocheoha" <president at gsaconcordia.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>
>>> The meeting with ASEQ today went really well yesterday. They presented
>>> us with the data which we requested. The claims report was for 2 years but
>>> we suggested that they make a claims report for 5 years.
>>>
>>> The claims report will be presented to council in January. Another date
>>> will be arranged to make the presentation the Annual Claims Report,
>>> Change of Coverage Update, and Plan Overview to directors. This can
>>> also be done during the council retreat.
>>>
>>> I apologize for the short notice in sending the invitation earlier. The
>>> meeting was supposed to be with execs but the invitation was extended to
>>> directors and staff last minute.
>>>
>>> I invited a lawyer to make a presentation to directors on the rights and
>>> responsibilities of directors. This is not my lawyer but a lawyer who has
>>> a specialty in not-for-profit organizations and community groups. An
>>> arbitrator will try to resolve the dispute between me and  Keroles.
>>>
>>> Have a good weekend.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> *Alex Ocheoha*
>>> President
>>>
>>> Graduate Students Association
>>> Concordia University
>>> 2030 Mackay · Montreal · QC · H3N 1J1
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>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Alex Ocheoha <
>>> president at gsaconcordia.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> ASEQ wishes to have a meeting with some members of the GSA Executive,
>>>> Council and Staff at their offices from 11.30am-1pm this Friday,
>>>> November 27th.
>>>>
>>>> At this meeting, they will present us with the Annual Claims Report,
>>>> Change of Coverage Update, and Plan Overview.
>>>>
>>>> A presentation of the Annual Claims Report, Change of Coverage Update,
>>>> and Plan Overview will also be made in January for those who cannot make
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Please confirm your attendance so that I will let them know how many
>>>> people are attending.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Alex Ocheoha*
>>>> President
>>>>
>>>> Graduate Students Association
>>>> Concordia University
>>>> 2030 Mackay · Montreal · QC · H3N 1J1
>>>> tel  514.848.2424.x7900  ·   fax  514.848.7904
>>>>
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