[GSA Council] Payment to directors and execs

Wed Dec 9 14:11:37 PST 2015

All said and done I am not at liberty or it is not in my task to make a
decision. Decision makers are the GA, Council and Executives in that order.
Someone has to decide and then tell me to pay. That's my job :-)

Thanks,

FM
On 09-Dec-2015 3:42 am, "Alex Ocheoha" <alex_ocheoha at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> I believe that the bursary policy has anticipated situations such as these
> and is quite clear in dealing with this. I do not see why we should spend
> so much time on this.
>
> 1. *The Bursary policy states:* “However, GSA also recognizes that
> students may live in precarious financial situations and that political
> involvement should not be a privilege, this is why the GSA offers
> compensation in the form of bursaries to executives members.”
>
> People have already made travel plans and other plans for the holidays.
> Some people will also have their rent and other bills to pay at the end of
> December. Most organizations usually pay their employees earlier in
> December to make money available for those that go on holiday or celebrate
> Christmas. I do not know if this has come up because of someone I already
> know, who may want to vote against my December bursary in secret. The
> secret ballot makes the person’s motive look more suspicious, because
> people usually become more transparent when they anticipate legal
> challenges.
>
> 2. I just want to discuss the disbursement of the current bursary. After
> having looked at the bursary policy, I personally do not see anything in
> particular that states that executives should get paid for two months.
> There are two items in the policy that I have highlighted concerning the
> disbursement
>
> = I made it clear to the other executives and the Finance Manager that the
> November 28 council meeting only approved the payment of the November
> bursary. The executives will not get paid for 2 months and will only get
> paid after the December 26 or at the end of the month.
>
> 3. "Allow for executive who choose to request monthly bursaries be awarded
> if councils accept their monthly reports.
> = All executives opted for the monthly option and have been paid by the
> monthly option.
>
> 4. Since there was no approval of any December reports, it does not seem
> like it would be the proper procedure to disburse the bursaries for
> December before the meeting in January.
>
> *The bursary policy states:* In case, of not being able to have a council
> meeting because of not achieving quorum, the applicant would get paid
> without any assessment, because of the above mentioned reasons.
>
> = The December council meeting will not hold because it falls on a
> holiday. If there is no meeting executives get paid without assessment.
>
> 5. Since the council meeting date was changed, and therefore there was no
> loss of quorum, there should not be any bursary awarded to the executives
> for December, until the December meeting which will be held in January.
>
> The motion that was passed in the August 29, 2015 meeting states: “BIFRT
> In the event of items being tabled in the agenda of the monthly council
> meeting, a second council meeting is to be held on a date determined by
> doodle (same Sept 6 deadline) within one week after the monthly meeting. .
> . . . “
>
>
>
> Whereas there will be no meeting in December all items meant for the
> December council will be tabled to the early January Council meeting.
>
> Whereas the August 29 motion states that the meeting should be held within
> one week of the monthly council meeting a motion was passed in the October
> 4, 2015 meeting to convene the meeting on Saturday, January 9, 2016.
>
> =However, January is a new month, a new year and a new semester. This
> meeting to be held on January 9, 2016 cannot be called the December Regular
> Council meeting. It has never happened before in the GSA or anywhere is the
> world to call a meeting held in January a December meeting.
>
> 6. Since there was no approval of any December reports, it does not seem
> like it would be the proper procedure to disburse the bursaries for
> December before the meeting in January.
>
> = The reports cannot be assessed or approved because the GSA will not be
> having a regular council meeting in December. The proper procedure will be
> to abide by the policy and disburse the bursaries.
>
> 7. And: "The attribution of a bursary is contingent to the evaluation of
> the Semester Report of an executive member and any executive evaluations,
> if they were provided."
>
> = Executives already opted for the monthly bursaries and have been
> submitting monthly reports, which were approved.
>
> 8. There is one more section that indicates the amount of money to be
> disbursed in each semester which is as follows, but it does not seem as
> binding as anything else:
>
> The bursaries are to be allocated by semester. The amounts for each
> semester represent an amount of 1100$ per month which goes as follows:
>
> *The Bursary policy states:* “A member of the Executive Committee who
> wishes to obtain a bursary must first provide to the Council, no later than
> the beginning of July (for summer semester) no later than the beginning
> October (for fall semester), and no later than the beginning of February
> (for the winter semester), an Action Plan for the semester at hand.”
>
> = If an action plan has been submitted it covers the entire semester. The
> amount payable for the fall semester (September to December) is $4400. An
> executive who requests monthly bursaries still has to be paid $1,100 for
> December.
>
> 9. Ideally, the scenario that would be more prudent would be to make sure
> a meeting is called before the vacations or wait in January (the following
> month) as they would normally do for any other month, but then again it is
> up to the discretion of council.
>
> = Council has already passed a motion not to have a meeting on December
> 26, 2015. I do not see any urgency in calling a meeting during the holidays
> or during the exam period.
>
> I do not see any reason not to have a break. Executives also deserve a
> break. This is beginning to look like someone just realized that we will be
> paid without assessment.
>
> The bursary policy came up because of somebody that disappeared and did
> not show up not for people that show up and actually work. Worker deserves
> their wages.
>
> I hope that this resolves this bursary disbursement. We have a lot of work
> to do in January so it would not be ideal to start the year by spending a
> lot of time on discussions about bursaries.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex Ocheoha
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Gsaconcordia <gsaconcordia-bounces at lists.resist.ca> on behalf of
> Ribal Abi Raad <abiraad.ribal at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:22 AM
> *To:* finance at gsaconcordia.ca; Gsaconcordia at lists.resist.ca
> *Subject:* Re: [GSA Council] Payment to directors and execs
>
> Hello Vinay, hello everyone,
>
> I just want to discuss the disbursement of the current bursary. After
> having looked at the bursary policy, I *personally* do not see anything
> in particular that states that executives should get paid for two
> months.There are two items in the policy that I have highlighted concerning
> the disbursement
>
> *"Allow for executive who choose to request monthly bursaries be awarded
> if councils accept their monthly reports. *
>
> *In case, of not being able to have a council meeting because of not
> achieving quorum, the applicant would get paid without any assessment,
> because of the above mentioned reasons."*
> Since the council meeting date was changed, and therefore there was no
> loss of quorum, there should not be any bursary awarded to the executives
> for December, until the December meeting which will be held in January.
>
> And:* "The attribution of a bursary is contingent to the evaluation of
> the Semester Report of an executive member and any executive evaluations,
> if they were provided."*
>
> Since there was no approval of any December reports, it does not seem like
> it would be the proper procedure to disburse the bursaries for December
> before the meeting in January.
>
> There is one more section that indicates the amount of money to be
> disbursed in each semester which is as follows, but it does not seem as
> binding as anything else:
> *The bursaries are to be allocated by semester. The amounts for each
> semester represent an amount of 1100$ per month which goes as follows:*
> *Summer Semester (June to August): 3300$ *
> *Fall Semester (September to December): 4400$ *
> *Winter Semester (January to May): 5500$ *
>
> Ideally, the scenario that would be more prudent would be  to make sure a
> meeting is called before the vacations or wait in January (the following
> month) as they would normally do for any other month, but then again it is
> up to the discretion of council.
>
> The reason why I am sending this is because I do not want to take the
> responsibility of any action against the current rule and regulations.
> There seems to be a great devotion towards detail at the GSA, and I do not
> want to break this rule. This is why I would leave it up to the councilors
> and the finance manager to decide on what is to happen.
>
> Finally, if I seem to have made a big deal out of an insignificant matter,
> excuse the inconvenience.
>
> Regards,
> ᐧ
>
> *Ribal Abi Raad*
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 2:07 PM, finance at gsaconcordia.ca <
> finance at gsaconcordia.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ribal,
>>
>> Bursary policy please. Also Korosh did not sign the attendance sheet so
>> do i pay him or not for Nov 28 Council meeting.
>>
>> Vinay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ribal Abi Raad <abiraad.ribal at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is in the bursary policy. I'll send it over wine I'm home.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 7 December 2015, GSA Manager Finance <finance at gsaconcordia.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did not see the signature of Korosh on the last month's attendance
>>>> sheet. So I guess he will get paid for Dec only.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Further, the council minutes does not say anything on the Dec pay, so
>>>> could you guide me to the exact point in the by-law or any other authentic
>>>> and authorized documents that says execs gat paid for Dec? I need something
>>>> to prove this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Ribal Abi Raad
>>>> *Received:* 12/7/2015 5:44:56 PM -05:00
>>>> *To:* GSA Finance Manager
>>>> Hey vinay, you will have to pay lorosh for the meeting he just
>>>> attended, unless he actually has signed in for the one before that.
>>>> The executives should be paid for November and December. Since rupinder
>>>> officially resigned, she should not be paid for December.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that answers your questions.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 7 December 2015, GSA Finance Manager <
>>>> finance at gsaconcordia.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have written the cheques. Please sign them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not know about Korosh, so Ribal how much do we pay him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the bursary for November to execs, it has been done with
>>>>> Rupinder being paid for last month as well. For december I do not know,
>>>>> Ribal you have yet to answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Finance Manager,
>>>>> GSA, Concordia
>>>>> T: +1-438-993-1767
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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