[GSA Council] From Firas - Document for your consideration

[David Clos-Sasseville]

But a good thing we could would be to videotape the meeting.

2014-10-20 14:47 GMT-04:00 David Clos-Sasseville <clos.s.david at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> About Recording arguments, has I said in the first meeting and repeated
> once or twice, if you want me to note down something important tell me at
> the time it is happening. The most important thing in minutes are the
> motions that are voted upon and it is already difficult to make sure they
> are written down properly. We tried once last year to take all the comment
> and it was a failure. Comments were summerized for the purpose of space and
> note taking but resluted in misinterpretation or incompleteness. Sometime
> argument were forgotten, etc.
>
> True, university committee do record debate but in most case they have a
> professional secretary to do that and those people are proficient with
> stenography. We actually don't have this ressource except if you want to
> create a new staff position.
>
> Best,
>
> David
>
> 2014-10-20 14:10 GMT-04:00 Keroles Riad <k_riad at encs.concordia.ca>:
>
> Hi,
>> I have two points on this
>> 1) I think his point of view should be included in the minutes. In
>> principle I think it is common and good practice that minutes include
>> arguments of who said what in all issues (this is what is happening in all
>> university committees I am on so not reinventing the wheel). but given that
>> a simple accountability measure of properly recording votes was shot down,
>> I suspect that a more transparent accountability motion of including motifs
>> and arguments in the minutes has any chance of passing this council.
>>
>> 2) I think his pdf misuses the term point of information quite often and
>> I would like to be amended to properly categorize his points into "facts-
>> points of information, proceedings of council, and arguments.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Keroles Riad
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>>  *From:* gretchen k <gbayou at gmail.com>
>> *To:* gsaconcordia at lists.resist.ca
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2014 1:53 PM
>> *Subject:* [GSA Council] From Firas - Document for your consideration
>>
>> Hello Councillors--
>>
>> The following attachment was prepared by Firas and he is requesting that
>> Council append this document to the minutes for October 9th. If anyone has
>> any further documents about this issue for council to consider as
>> appendices please forward them to me before council so I can circulate them.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --gretchen
>>
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