[GSA Council] Proposed change in number of council members for 2015

[Keroles Riad]

Hi,
That still allow the top 2 to dominate council! 4+3 is 7... in a council of 11 you need 6 to pass things. actually even ENCS and JMSB combination can dictate council.


 
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Keroles Riad
Research assistant and INDI masters student
B.Eng Mechanical Engineering
Laboratory for the Physics of Advanced Materials
Department of Mechanical & Industrial Engineering
Concordia University 
1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. West
Montreal, Quebec
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 From: Jon Summers <jsummers6 at gmail.com>
To: Keroles Riad <k_riad at encs.concordia.ca> 
Cc: Sean Boivin <sboivin001 at gmail.com>; Gsaconcordia at lists.resist.ca 
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [GSA Council] Proposed change in number of council members for 2015
 


How about a very simple compromise solution? Intervals of 700 students. I believe this meets the 3 key criteria I outlined previously, and is easy to explain to our members.

1-700 students: 1 councillor
701-1400 students: 2 councillors
1401-2100 students: 3 councillors
2101-2800 students: 4 councillors
2801-3500 students: 5 councillors

This would give 4 ENCS; 3 A&S; 2 JMSB; 1 FA; and 1 indi.

The total is 11 councillors.

What do you think?




On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Keroles Riad <k_riad at encs.concordia.ca> wrote:

Jon, it is not arbitrary, it is the smallest council can possibly get. You have 4 faculties and SIP. You give 2 each that is 10. You want to do semi proportional then encs is biggest, SIP is smaller so you add 1 to ENCS and take one from SIP and you still have 10.
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>This way you need 3 groups to agree to pass things in council. In your case the top 2 can dictate council.
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>Last how many do you think are we now in council? We are supposed to be 20 but we have a few seats open. We ARE at 15, do you think council runs smoothly now?
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>This change needs to be fairly more drastic and even have my doubts about 10 being too many.
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>Kero
>Thanks
>Keroles Riad
>Research assistant and INDI masters student
>B.Eng Mechanical Engineering
>Laboratory for the Physics of Advanced Materials
>Department of Mechanical & Industrial Engineering
>Concordia University 
>1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. West
>Montreal, Quebec
>Canada H3G 1M8
>Ph: 1-514-476-3686
>
>Follow me
>@Kerologist
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>From:  Jon Summers <jsummers6 at gmail.com> 
>Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:12:04 -0400
>To: Keroles Riad<k_riad at encs.concordia.ca>; Sean Boivin<sboivin001 at gmail.com>; <Gsaconcordia at lists.resist.ca>
>Subject: Re: [GSA Council] Proposed change in number of council members for 2015
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>Thanks Sean and Keroles for taking the time to address my proposal for 2015 (and its possible variations)!
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>As I mentioned, I believe that my moderate proposal has the advantage of (1) reducing the size of Council by about 1/4; (2) keeping representation proportional by faculty; (3) preventing smaller faculties from being dominated by larger ones.
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>I'm afraid that Keroles' proposal seems too arbitrary for us to be able to justify it to our membership in a General Assembly.
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>Sean uses the number of students this semester for his calculation. However, the current bylaws state that "This ratio will be determined by the total enrolment number in the Winter term of the previous academic year." This could of course be changed as well.
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>According to David, the number of students in the winter of 2014 was 2734 for ENCS, 1920 for A&S, 1179 for JMSB, 506 for FA, and 157 for indi. The seats on Council, by my math, would thus be 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 (for a total of 15). Works out nicely, don't you think?
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>On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Keroles Riad <k_riad at encs.concordia.ca> wrote:
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>I personally won't make council bigger than 10. 3, 2, 2, 2, 1
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>>Thanks
>>Keroles Riad
>>Research assistant and INDI masters student
>>B.Eng Mechanical Engineering
>>Laboratory for the Physics of Advanced Materials
>>Department of Mechanical & Industrial Engineering
>>Concordia University
>>1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. West
>>Montreal, Quebec
>>Canada H3G 1M8
>>Ph: 1-514-476-3686
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>>Follow me
>>@Kerologist
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