[FreeGeek] Free Geek General Meeting - September 11, 2007
Ashley
freegeek at mrashley.com
Tue Sep 11 22:43:37 PDT 2007
Agenda
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1. Introductions
2. Old business
In attendance
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Jeff
Ashley
Sim
Sean H
Bernie
Joe
Ed
Mike G
Jitin
Ifny
Rusty
Joe
Cameron
Simon
David
James
Old Business
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- UBC FG-like org
- SFU FG affiliate
- Under the Volcano festival
- Encorp bottle depot accepting computer hardware
- Bridge building with other orgs
- Min of Env
- RCBC
- Teck Cominco
- Financial report
- Fundraising/marketing
- Barcamp
- Help needed with communications
New Business
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- The "box"
- Encorp
- Sustainability/Recycling
- Workgroup
- $$$
The "Box"
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- A package was delivered from Dustin Harriman for Free Geek
- An Intellivision II with many games!
Encorp
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- Meeting today at ESABC (Electronic Stewardship Association of BC)
- Industry organisation
- Stewardship program has no reuse component - everything destroyed
(smelter)
- "Landmark meeting" - invite only to talk about reuse issues
- RCBC
- Industry leaders
- Free Geek
- reBoot
- Computers for Schools (CFS)
- BAN
- Mostly presentations, little time for discussion or solutions
- Free Geek has been foremost in dialogue regarding reuse
- Reuse, reselling, and refurbishment are the bigger picture - big industry
already present in refurb/resell
- May not come to much with ESABC
- Free Geek's path may present more of an economic opportunity to work with
other orgs because we're dismantling donations to valuable scrap
- ESABC program hasn't been advertising much
- Free Geek is getting more donations since the ESABC program started
- ICI
- Industrial/Commercial recycling
- What is FG doing to get these donations?
- Will this conflict with our partnership with CFS?
- Concerns over whether FG can survive as a recycling operation
- Meeting objectives
- FG previously asked to give input into reuse specs
- Brought this input to the meet
- September 5th meet
- Invited reBoot, CFS, Salvation Army, others
- Discussion over whether reuse orgs can cherry pick from recycling
inputs
- Info to be found on the wiki at
http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Free_Geek_Vancouver
Sustainability/Recycling
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- "No viable recycler"
- 36Zero Waste is not open and we do not know when they will be
- 36Zero suggested we send our materials to the ESABC program
- 36Zero has begun to hold back some of their downstream vendors
- What options do we have without 36Zero waste?
- options
- provincial program
- Tech Cominco - currently auditing
- FG's auditing means
- visiting facilities
- talking with trusted people/orgs
- looking at environmental record
- BAN mediating discussion with Tech Cominco
- We may need to choose the lesser of evils and send to the smelter
- If we work with the prov program, we may be able to sway the
process
- Concern we may become "victims of our own success"
- Let's stick to what we do best
- Some desire to shift our focus a bit from e-waste to Open Source
software/systems, education
- Skim the cream off of the waste destined for Encorp and
produce open systems
- Business plan built around recycling revenue
- We may be forced to give our waste to the provincial
program where we get no revenue
- How will we make money?
- Repair shop (like Our Community Bikes)
- Linux OEM (original equipment manufacturer)
- Training (software classes)
- Do we need to scale back?
- Thrift store could be leveraged
- What to do with monitor recycling fees collected?
- Human resource requirements
- Too many responsibilities laid on too few people
- What is our mandate given what we know now?
- Encorp wasn't started when FGV was born
- Encorp has taken some of the the e-waste export motivation out
- Smuggling e-waste still a lucrative industry
- Too big a battle to fight the Encorp smelting program
- Has our recycling ethic been undercut by the provincial program?
- All media opportunities have been used to push Linux, Open Source
software, etc., education
- According to BAN
- reuse is the highest form of recycling
- just getting some reuse going is a good thing
- What to do with the current skids clogging up the shop?
- big ethical problem with the monitors
- proposed - store monitors until 36Zero Waste opens
- what if they don't open?
- ship somewhere acceptable as a one-off
- public trust built around ethical recycling of monitors
- fees collected under this premise
- Use Total Reclaim? - can't due to export restrictions
- We need to keep working on a Plan B to avoid problems moving our output
Workgroups
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- 14 groups all with mailing lists
- Need more activity on workgroups
- Some very solid support so far, but more required
- Regular meetings for certain workgroups
- Imminent
- Operations
- Education
- Communications
- Hardware grants
- Cull non-active mailing list subscribers?
- General should be the only place for general support or listeners
- It's a problem when a meeting is suggested and there is no
response
- Lists allow people to keep in touch with what is happening in a
group
- List is a method for group communication, not a synonym
- We have a lot of lists which dilutes the pool
- Portland has a workgroup structure where workgroups become
available as involvement of an volunteer grows
- Talk about new technology for workgroup communications at next meeting
- Workgroups to be found through the mailing lists at freegeekvancouver.org
$$$
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- $4000 grant received from MEC
- July
- $1500 monitor fees
- $1200 thrift store
- August
- $785 monitor fees
- $1500 thrift store
- September (current to date of meeting)
- $150 monitor fees
- $600 thrift store
Action
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- Cut monitor fees
- Consensus
- Monitor expenditure - 10 skids to be shipped to 36Zero Waste in Calgary
- $7 per monitor = $2100
- Consensus
- Move business plan to a contingency meeting
- Sunday Sept 16 - 14:00 - Location TBA
- Consensus
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