From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org  Thu Oct  4 13:28:12 2007
From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (Ifny)
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:28:12 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Monthly Meeting & LInux Clinic reminder
Message-ID: <47054CDC.1080008@freegeekvancouver.org>

Hello Geek Sympathisers!


FREE GEEK MONTHLY MEETING
Tues Oct 9th
6:30-8:30pm
@ Free Geek, 117 East 2nd Ave. (between Main & Quebec), Vancouver

Join us as we continue developing a community non-profit dedicated to 
computer recycling, education, empowerment and free software. Open to the 
curious, the beginner and the programmer. Folks with no computer experience 
welcome! 2nd Tuesday of every month.



LINUX CLINIC & WINDOWSLESS WEDNESDAYS
Every Wednesday evening from 7pm-9:30
@ Free Geek, 117 East 2nd Ave. (between Main & Quebec), Vancouver

Want to try free & open source software? Find out how to install Linux on 
your computer? Or have a more complex question...?
Linux Clinics are where we assist folks who have Linux issues, or who are 
just plain curious. Join us for Windowsless Wednesdays & learn how to set 
your computer free!



**** MORE INFO on these events & more at http://freegeekvancouver.org ****









From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org  Thu Oct  4 14:14:29 2007
From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (Ifny)
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:14:29 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Call for agenda items & volunteers for October monthly
	meeting
Message-ID: <470557B5.4050503@freegeekvancouver.org>

FREE GEEK October General Meeting
Date: Tues Oct 9 2007 6:30pm-8:30pm
Where: Free Geek, 117 East 2nd Ave. (between Main & Quebec) Vancouver BC


This is a call for agenda items for the upcoming General Monthly Meeting.

- To present a topic, please email me & I'll add it to the agenda.
- All workgroups that have met since the last monthly meeting should 
consider presenting a brief summary of what they're working on.
- People who made commits will be asked for updates.



*** Please volunteer for a role. If you have never done so, or if you want 
to learn more about how to it better, you are especially encouraged to give 
it a shot! You won't be left on your own; others are there to support and 
assist you. Email me if you can be one of these:

1. CONSENSUS BRIEFER: Give a brief (5 min) overview of how consensus 
decisions are made, how to get on the speakers' list, and general meeting 
protocol. More info on consensus here: 
http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Consensus
http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Lesson_Plan_for_Teaching_the_Consensus_Process

2. FACILITATOR: Keep the conversation productive, moving along, & on topic. 
Look for ways to facilitate consensus process.

3. REGULATOR: Assist the Facilitator. Keep a speakers' list of people 
waiting to talk.

4. SCRIBE: Take attendance & meeting minutes. 
http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Scribe
Scribe cheat sheet: http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Meeting_Template

5. MINUTES CHECKER: After the meeting, review the minutes to make sure 
nothing was missed; post minutes to the general list.



- Link to Last Meeting
https://lists.resist.ca/pipermail/freegeek-van/2007-September/000436.html

- Meeting Tips
(please note: this is Free Geek Portland's page, & does not exactly match 
our practices. We're still developing a Vancouver version). 
http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Meeting_Tips

- Consensus
http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Consensus


AGENDA:
------
I. Welcome & introductions. Roles confirmed.

II. Consensus Briefing.

III. Last minute agenda items.

IV. Commitments from previous meeting.

V.  Reports (presentations, workgroup updates).

VI. Business (OLD + NEW).



From reallifesim at gmail.com  Sun Oct  7 08:54:32 2007
From: reallifesim at gmail.com (sim)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:54:32 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Call for agenda items & volunteers for October monthly
	meeting
In-Reply-To: <470557B5.4050503@freegeekvancouver.org>
References: <470557B5.4050503@freegeekvancouver.org>
Message-ID: <bbcb6aae0710070854l5d6b5d30q75e4b22cd669e2ec@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/4/07, Ifny <ifny at freegeekvancouver.org> wrote:
> FREE GEEK October General Meeting
> Date: Tues Oct 9 2007 6:30pm-8:30pm
> Where: Free Geek, 117 East 2nd Ave. (between Main & Quebec) Vancouver BC
>
>
> This is a call for agenda items for the upcoming General Monthly Meeting.

I have an agenda item to add:
I propose that we spend the extra $20-30 per month on internet service
that allows us to run servers and connect to mesh networking devices
legally.

-- 
sim


From bowserj at uselessdegree.net  Sun Oct  7 09:10:16 2007
From: bowserj at uselessdegree.net (Joe Bowser)
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:10:16 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Call for agenda items & volunteers for October	monthly
	meeting
In-Reply-To: <470557B5.4050503@freegeekvancouver.org>
References: <470557B5.4050503@freegeekvancouver.org>
Message-ID: <1191773417.19186.108.camel@bowserj-desktop>

Hello

I'd like to add the Montly Sustainer Program.  This is where we get
people's Account Numbers and give them to VanCity or CCEC.  Then that
bank deducts the amount that they specified from their account each
month.  Spartaus is currently looking into this, and this is currently
how Co-Op Radio is able to function.

Joe


On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 14:14 -0700, Ifny wrote:
> FREE GEEK October General Meeting
> Date: Tues Oct 9 2007 6:30pm-8:30pm
> Where: Free Geek, 117 East 2nd Ave. (between Main & Quebec) Vancouver BC
> 
> 
> This is a call for agenda items for the upcoming General Monthly Meeting.
> 
> - To present a topic, please email me & I'll add it to the agenda.
> - All workgroups that have met since the last monthly meeting should 
> consider presenting a brief summary of what they're working on.
> - People who made commits will be asked for updates.
> 
> 
> 
> *** Please volunteer for a role. If you have never done so, or if you want 
> to learn more about how to it better, you are especially encouraged to give 
> it a shot! You won't be left on your own; others are there to support and 
> assist you. Email me if you can be one of these:
> 
> 1. CONSENSUS BRIEFER: Give a brief (5 min) overview of how consensus 
> decisions are made, how to get on the speakers' list, and general meeting 
> protocol. More info on consensus here: 
> http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Consensus
> http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Lesson_Plan_for_Teaching_the_Consensus_Process
> 
> 2. FACILITATOR: Keep the conversation productive, moving along, & on topic. 
> Look for ways to facilitate consensus process.
> 
> 3. REGULATOR: Assist the Facilitator. Keep a speakers' list of people 
> waiting to talk.
> 
> 4. SCRIBE: Take attendance & meeting minutes. 
> http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Scribe
> Scribe cheat sheet: http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Meeting_Template
> 
> 5. MINUTES CHECKER: After the meeting, review the minutes to make sure 
> nothing was missed; post minutes to the general list.
> 
> 
> 
> - Link to Last Meeting
> https://lists.resist.ca/pipermail/freegeek-van/2007-September/000436.html
> 
> - Meeting Tips
> (please note: this is Free Geek Portland's page, & does not exactly match 
> our practices. We're still developing a Vancouver version). 
> http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Meeting_Tips
> 
> - Consensus
> http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Consensus
> 
> 
> AGENDA:
> ------
> I. Welcome & introductions. Roles confirmed.
> 
> II. Consensus Briefing.
> 
> III. Last minute agenda items.
> 
> IV. Commitments from previous meeting.
> 
> V.  Reports (presentations, workgroup updates).
> 
> VI. Business (OLD + NEW).
> 
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van



From bill3 at uniserve.com  Sun Oct  7 10:13:05 2007
From: bill3 at uniserve.com (Bill)
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:13:05 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Call for agenda items & volunteers for October
	monthly meeting
In-Reply-To: <bbcb6aae0710070854l5d6b5d30q75e4b22cd669e2ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <470557B5.4050503@freegeekvancouver.org>
	<bbcb6aae0710070854l5d6b5d30q75e4b22cd669e2ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1191777185.4190.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2007-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, sim wrote:
> I have an agenda item to add:
> I propose that we spend the extra $20-30 per month on 
> internet service that allows us to run servers and 
> connect to mesh networking devices legally.

I'm not sure if this will help, but the basic Uniserve.com
adsl contract allows you to run servers legally at 
no extra charge. You might look into that to increase your 
capabilities without incurring the additional cost.

	hth,

	b.



From ben at computerdolt.com  Tue Oct  9 11:04:24 2007
From: ben at computerdolt.com (Ben Holt)
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:04:24 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Call for agenda items & volunteers for October	monthly
	meeting
In-Reply-To: <1191777185.4190.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <470557B5.4050503@freegeekvancouver.org>	<bbcb6aae0710070854l5d6b5d30q75e4b22cd669e2ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<1191777185.4190.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <470BC2A8.9010000@computerdolt.com>

Bill said the following on 10/07/2007 10:13 AM:
> I'm not sure if this will help, but the basic Uniserve.com
> adsl contract allows you to run servers legally at 
> no extra charge. You might look into that to increase your 
> capabilities without incurring the additional cost.

Similarly Smarttnet's (and probably other ADSL re-sellers) basic ADSL 
account provides a static IP and the ability to run servers.

- Ben


From bill3 at uniserve.com  Tue Oct  9 12:54:14 2007
From: bill3 at uniserve.com (Bill)
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:54:14 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Call for agenda items & volunteers for
	October	monthly meeting
In-Reply-To: <470BC2A8.9010000@computerdolt.com>
References: <470557B5.4050503@freegeekvancouver.org>
	<bbcb6aae0710070854l5d6b5d30q75e4b22cd669e2ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<1191777185.4190.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<470BC2A8.9010000@computerdolt.com>
Message-ID: <1191959654.4190.204.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2007-09-10 at 11:04 -0700, Ben Holt wrote:
> Similarly Smarttnet's (and probably other ADSL re-sellers) basic ADSL 
> account provides a static IP and the ability to run servers.
> 
Sure Ben is right. But I remember when I left Telus I made
a pretty good survey of the local ISPs and found that there
was quite a bit of variation among vendors. Three parameters
of interest to me were a static ip, the cost per extra gig
of traffic and the total monthly bandwidth. For example
while Uniserve charges 4 bucks a month extra for a static,
they give you 30 gig a month and charge $1 per gig extra.
Smarttnet give you a free static but only 6 gigs a month 
and charge $20 per gig extra. So which one is better 
depends on your situation. Shop carefully.

	b.



From humble at resist.ca  Wed Oct 10 14:30:21 2007
From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:30:21 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] FWD: Hillbilly How-to: Practical uses for your old
	computer pieces
Message-ID: <200710101430.21240.humble@resist.ca>

Computers are good for many things -- I use mine mostly for listening to 
compact discs, playing that awesome pinball game, and checking the finishing 
times at NASCAR.com -- but did you know they can be just as useful when 
they're broken? In all, I think I've burned through eight computers over the 
last three years -- one got crushed when my prized moose head fell off the 
wall, and I spilled various liquids on the other seven. Typically when I bust 
up one of my PCs, I just toss it on the burn pile with everything else, but 
then I got to thinking, "I bet I could tear this sucker apart and use the 
various pieces in all sorts of different ways."

For instance, discarded keyboards make great dog toys, and you can use those 
little gray mouse balls to build a sweet miniature billiard set. Now, I bet 
you're thinking to yourself, "surely you can't do much else with a broken 
computer!" Au contraire, mon amie. Check out these other ingenious uses for 
discarded computer pieces... (c/w pics):

http://www.diylife.com/2007/10/09/hillbilly-how-to-practical-uses-for-your-old-computer-pieces/


From humble at resist.ca  Thu Oct 11 10:11:51 2007
From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:11:51 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Ubuntu Open Week - Oct. 22-27th
Message-ID: <200710111011.51247.humble@resist.ca>

Taking place from Mon 22nd Oct - Sat 27th Oct on IRC in #ubuntu-classroom.

Ubuntu is a freely available, simple to use Linux desktop and server. The 
Ubuntu project has developed a strong reputation for technical excellence and 
a commitment to the free software community, and we are always keen to grow 
and extend our community where possible. Ubuntu does not distinguish between 
different Enterprise and Open versions - we have one single version of 
Ubuntu, and this version is and will always be entirely free. Ubuntu is used 
by over 8 million people and has a worldwide community of volunteers who 
contribute in many different areas such as packaging, documentation, art, 
translations, testing, marketing and more.

In just two years, Ubuntu has become the most popular Linux distribution in 
the world with millions of users and a spot regularly at the top of 
Distrowatch. Ever wondered what all the fuss is about? How we've achieved 
such a great feat in such a short space of time? Here's where you can find 
out.

Ubuntu Open Week is a series of online workshops where you can:

    * learn about the Ubuntu landscape
    * talk to some of the key developers from the Ubuntu project
    * find out about the Community and its relationship with Canonical
    * participate in an open Q&A with Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of Ubuntu
    * much more...

Full information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek


From ben at computerdolt.com  Fri Oct 12 13:56:39 2007
From: ben at computerdolt.com (Ben Holt)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:56:39 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] VanLUG Newbie Night - Oct. 15th
Message-ID: <470FDF87.4010504@computerdolt.com>

Hi FreeGeekers,

VanLUG is having a "Newbie" oriented meeting on October 15th and we 
would like to invite out the FreeGeek community and anyone else who is 
interested in getting started with Linux.

Cheers,

- Ben


VanLUG October 15th Meeting,
7:30-9:00pm
Telus Theatre, Building SE6, BCIT Burnaby Campus

VanLUG will be hosting "Newbie Night" at our October 15th meeting.  The 
meeting will feature a series of presentations designed to help Linux 
newcomers get started with Linux and understand the basics of the 
operating system.  Each presentation will be followed by a Q&A session 
and the wrap-up will include a general Q&A for topics not included in 
the presentations.

If you or someone you know is interested in learning about Linux this is 
a great opportunity to get started.

Topics covered will include:

- Command Line Basics
- File System Permissions and Basic File System Management
- Installing Applications
- Using Linux for Coursework
- How / Where to Find Help

Additional topics are being worked on and may also be included.

VanLUG meetings are free and open to all.  Please pass along this 
invitation to anyone you know who may be interested in learning more 
about Linux.


From david.repa at freegeekvancouver.org  Fri Oct 12 15:19:35 2007
From: david.repa at freegeekvancouver.org (David Repa)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:19:35 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Mail List Migration #2
Message-ID: <1192227576.19503.28.camel@freegeek1>

Hello all,

We are going to try this again.  And it will work this time.

This general mailing list will be migrating to another general list on
a different server as of Monday Oct 15 2007.

We will be automatically subscribing people to the new list from our
current list.

If you DO NOT want to be automatically subscribed to the new general
mailing list, please email me.

Thanks!
-- 
David Repa
Coordinator
http://freegeekvancouver.org
W - 604-879-4335
C - 604-690-7372



From reallifesim at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 17:44:51 2007
From: reallifesim at gmail.com (sim)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:44:51 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Mail List Migration #2
In-Reply-To: <1192227576.19503.28.camel@freegeek1>
References: <1192227576.19503.28.camel@freegeek1>
Message-ID: <bbcb6aae0710121744l52c3296fo300b70363e5bd06@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/12/07, David Repa <david.repa at freegeekvancouver.org> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We are going to try this again.  And it will work this time.
>
> This general mailing list will be migrating to another general list on
> a different server as of Monday Oct 15 2007.
>
> We will be automatically subscribing people to the new list from our
> current list.
>
> If you DO NOT want to be automatically subscribed to the new general
> mailing list, please email me.

If you would rather handle your own migration (filters, etc) you can
subscribe to the new General list here:
http://puddle.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fg-general

Posting to the old list will be disabled Monday, but the online
archives will remain available.

Thanks, we apologize for any inconvenience this change may cause.

-- 
sim