From iamturnip at gmail.com  Thu Mar  1 21:32:57 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:32:57 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] CACS Grant
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703012132m6708b49mc7390031dbf5d754@mail.gmail.com>

Hey folks,

Some exciting news.  Here is the email I received today.

+++
Dear David Repa,

I'm very pleased to be able to inform you that the CACS activism fund
will be able to provide you with $300 funding towards your project,
"Free Geek Community Technology Centre."
+++

Yeah! Our first grant proposal was accepted!

-- 
David
604-690-7372


From iamlachance at gmail.com  Thu Mar  1 22:29:47 2007
From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:29:47 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] CACS Grant
In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0703012132m6708b49mc7390031dbf5d754@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c0eafaa0703012132m6708b49mc7390031dbf5d754@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3d895eaf0703012229h4ee3334amba76434972c984cb@mail.gmail.com>

WAHoOO!!!

On 3/1/07, David Repa <iamturnip at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> Some exciting news.  Here is the email I received today.
>
> +++
> Dear David Repa,
>
> I'm very pleased to be able to inform you that the CACS activism fund
> will be able to provide you with $300 funding towards your project,
> "Free Geek Community Technology Centre."
> +++
>
> Yeah! Our first grant proposal was accepted!
>
> --
> David
> 604-690-7372
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>


From shawn at freegeek.org  Thu Mar  1 22:31:23 2007
From: shawn at freegeek.org (shawn)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:31:23 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] CACS Grant
In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0703012132m6708b49mc7390031dbf5d754@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c0eafaa0703012132m6708b49mc7390031dbf5d754@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45E7C4BB.3000606@freegeek.org>

David Repa wrote:
> I'm very pleased to be able to inform you that the CACS activism fund
> will be able to provide you with $300 funding towards your project,
> "Free Geek Community Technology Centre."
> +++
> 
> Yeah! Our first grant proposal was accepted!
> 

W00t w00t!  Congrats, folks!

Obviously, those CACS people understand the awesome, inevitable, and powerful 
force of geekitude they're dealing with.

shawn
pdx


From iamturnip at gmail.com  Fri Mar  2 12:48:03 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:48:03 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] Video In
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703021248j69dc619brd23d5b351f958174@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Free Geekers!

I request came to me today for some possible help needed at Video In.
Apparently they need some sorting out in the computer department.
Things are a bit all over the place and it is a prime opportunity for
them to move into Open Source solutions.

They need a database among other things to make their operation more
smooth, and I am thinking that someone here on the list might be
interested in taking on such a project.  I think this might be a good
way for someone to get really friendly with Video In.  If any one is
interested please send me an email and I'll get you hooked up with the
person who asked me originally.

-- 
David Repa
604-690-7372


From leeshoal at yahoo.ca  Mon Mar  5 12:41:08 2007
From: leeshoal at yahoo.ca (Heather Jean McDermid)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:41:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [FreeGeek] Video In
In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0703021248j69dc619brd23d5b351f958174@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <515274.97424.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Free Geeks,

I have a montrrously big old laser printer with a broken 'thermal fuser' something or other.  Just wondering:

1.  is there anywhere in Vancouver that this can be safely recycled (that's closer than Aldergrove)?

or 2. would the group have any use for it?

thanks!
Heather


 		
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From unixd0od at hotmail.com  Wed Mar  7 11:19:51 2007
From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (unixd0od at hotmail.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:19:51 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] Hi!
Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV8E03289C5767DA1D9AC559A7A0@phx.gbl>

To introduce myself, my name is Joe. I met David through a mutual friend and learned about FreeGeek-Vancouver from him. 

I'm a computer programmer; mostly in the C, C++, and C# languages. I'm also a long time user of Slackware Linux and of course MS Windows. I've got tons of free time at the moment (looking for work actually).

I look forward to helping out with FreeGeek.

Joe,
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From freegeek at seanhill.ca  Wed Mar  7 19:01:00 2007
From: freegeek at seanhill.ca (sean hill)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:01:00 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] March 3, 2007 - Meeting minutes
Message-ID: <45EF7C6C.4090706@seanhill.ca>

Hey folks, here are the last meeting's minutes:

=====================================

Free Geek General Meeting - 3 March 2007

Agenda
======

Old Business
- PayPal
- Summit on IT
- Location - Victoria/Powell

New Business
- Donation/Grant $
- Locations
- Membership definition
- Charitable status

Events
- March 19 - VANlug
- 21 - Linux Clinic - Windowless Wednesday
- 24 - Sista' Hood
- 28 - Movie Night - Software "Pirates" and Files Shares
- April 7 - General Meeting - Video In 1965 Main St


Paypal
------
- Up and running - online
- registered as non-profit - lower fees
- Separate Vancity account for PayPal
- Still looking at other options

Summit on IT
------------
- 24th - Supposed to be there but fee was $1200
- too expensive, opted out
- brochures were to be put into bags of entrants
- about 150 distributed

Locations - Victoria/Powell
--------------------------
- looked at by David and Directors
- good location - $ 1500 month
- option to expand to basement
- elevator ~4x5 foot - wouldn't fit a std skid
- door to upstairs facility too small
- asked to resize door - said they would but rent would increase by sq foot
- offered to donate door and labour - refused
- off the radar
- developed good relationship with Colliers (Scott)
Free Geek General Meeting - 3 March 2007

Agenda
======

Old Business
- PayPal
- Summit on IT
- Location - Victoria/Powell

New Business
- Donation/Grant $
- Locations
- Membership definition
- Charitable status

Events
- March 19 - VANlug
- 21 - Linux Clinic - Windowless Wednesday
- 24 - Sista' Hood
- 28 - Movie Night - Software "Pirates" and Files Shares
- April 7 - General Meeting - Video In 1965 Main St


Paypal
------
- Up and running - online
- registered as non-profit - lower fees
- Separate Vancity account for PayPal
- Still looking at other options

Summit on IT
------------
- 24th - Supposed to be there but fee was $1200
- too expensive, opted out
- brochures were to be put into bags of entrants
- about 150 distributed

Locations - Victoria/Powell
--------------------------
- looked at by David and Directors
- good location - $ 1500 month
- option to expand to basement
- elevator ~4x5 foot - wouldn't fit a std skid
- door to upstairs facility too small
- asked to resize door - said they would but rent would increase by sq foot
- offered to donate door and labour - refused
- off the radar
- developed good relationship with Colliers (Scott)
Free Geek General Meeting - 3 March 2007

Agenda
======

Old Business
- PayPal
- Summit on IT
- Location - Victoria/Powell

New Business
- Donation/Grant $
- Locations
- Membership definition
- Charitable status

Events
- March 19 - VANlug
- 21 - Linux Clinic - Windowless Wednesday
- 24 - Sista' Hood
- 28 - Movie Night - Software "Pirates" and Files Shares
- April 7 - General Meeting - Video In 1965 Main St


Paypal
------
- Up and running - online
- registered as non-profit - lower fees
- Separate Vancity account for PayPal
- Still looking at other options

Summit on IT
------------
- 24th - Supposed to be there but fee was $1200
- too expensive, opted out
- brochures were to be put into bags of entrants
- about 150 distributed

Locations - Victoria/Powell
--------------------------
- looked at by David and Directors
- good location - $ 1500 month
- option to expand to basement
- elevator ~4x5 foot - wouldn't fit a std skid
- door to upstairs facility too small
- asked to resize door - said they would but rent would increase by sq foot
- offered to donate door and labour - refused
- off the radar
- developed good relationship with Colliers (Scott)

Donations/Grants $
------------------
- March 1st - won the Canadian Association of Cultural Studies at the
University of Alberta grant - $300
    - will help with future applications
    - included much of the text that went into the Freedonia grant

- Other donations have come in
    - $200 cash
    - Received sound equipment that we can sell to raise money

Ifny's Trip to Portland
-----------------------
- 4 hours at PDX
- picked up FGV's new server by bike
- server donated by PDX to replace old server
- sat with Richard (one of FG-PDX founders)
    - talked about hardware grants

Locations
---------
- 7th & Manitoba
    - for sublease by CBRE
    - in negotiations - off the market
    - good location

- 5th & Quebec
    - 2 sides leased by 2 different companies
    - 6000 sq/ft - 1500 warehouse - 700 reno'd office
    - 2 floors
    - ~$3750/mo
    - might be able to share with another org

Membership definition
---------------------
- by law membership must be defined
- BC societies must have members - not the same as Portland
- basic definition came out of last governance meeting:
    - "Having a volunteer number"
        - people would need to register
    - some contention around how a member is defined compared to how a
member is dismissed
    - issue put back to governance for further discussion
    - please watch governance list

Software/Distro
---------------
- first meeting
- what distro will we use
- moving towards ubuntu for workstation computers, debian for servers
- our version will likely be tweaked to FGV's liking
- ubuntu is flexible and has lots of support

Charitable status
-----------------
- meeting with Omar from Pedal Power
- talked about his experience with charitable status application
- Omar suggested now is the right time - apply now while you don't have
to prove anything. The idea of where you're going to go is more important.
- our mission statement fits well with application requirements
- Charitable status will help us get grants and receive donations by tax
deductibles
- application will go up on grant wiki for modification and discussion
- question raised: how might it restrict our actions/choices?

Recent communication meeting
---------------------
- talked about publicity
- brochures have been printed
- business cards on the way - including generic cards for people to pass out
- looking for a printer to do a geek calendar for Fall
    - talk to whoever did downtown eastside calendar
    - perhaps to include other FGs
- more DVDs from PDX
- buttons/stickers
- accessibility must be prime for all meetings and venues

Events
------
Mar  6    - FG intergalactic irc meeting
    - 1 hour
Mar 19  - Presentation at VANlug (Vancouver Linux Users group)
    - 1/2 hour
    - play video
    - spiel
    - questions
Mar 21  - Linux Clinic (Windowless Wednesday) - 7-10
    - Roundhouse will not work
    - likely to be at SPEC again
    - OpenOffice.org presentation
    - education meeting next week to discuss needs
    - used at library - outreach/publicity at library
Mar 24  - Sista' Hood
    - will have a table with material and running computers available
    - $30 table
    - on their website with a description
Mar 28  - Movie night - Software "Pirates" and File Sharers
    - 1983 TV show - The Software Chronicles
        - same issues and topics as today
    - "Steal This Film"
        - About the Pirate Bay
Mar 28  - "Massive Tech"
Apr  7    - Next general meeting
    - Video In - 1965 Main St

Donations/Grants $
------------------
- March 1st - won the Canadian Association of Cultural Studies at the
University of Alberta grant - $300
    - will help with future applications
    - included much of the text that went into the Freedonia grant

- Other donations have come in
    - $200 cash
    - Received sound equipment that we can sell to raise money

Ifny's Trip to Portland
-----------------------
- 4 hours at PDX
- picked up FGV's new server by bike
- server donated by PDX to replace old server
- sat with Richard (one of FG-PDX founders)
    - talked about hardware grants

Locations
---------
- 7th & Manitoba
    - for sublease by CBRE
    - in negotiations - off the market
    - good location

- 5th & Quebec
    - 2 sides leased by 2 different companies
    - 6000 sq/ft - 1500 warehouse - 700 reno'd office
    - 2 floors
    - ~$3750/mo
    - might be able to share with another org

Membership definition
---------------------
- by law membership must be defined
- BC societies must have members - not the same as Portland
- basic definition came out of last governance meeting:
    - "Having a volunteer number"
        - people would need to register
    - some contention around how a member is defined compared to how a
member is dismissed
    - issue put back to governance for further discussion
    - please watch governance list

Software/Distro
---------------
- first meeting
- what distro will we use
- moving towards ubuntu for workstation computers, debian for servers
- our version will likely be tweaked to FGV's liking
- ubuntu is flexible and has lots of support

Charitable status
-----------------
- meeting with Omar from Pedal Power
- talked about his experience with charitable status application
- Omar suggested now is the right time - apply now while you don't have
to prove anything. The idea of where you're going to go is more important.
- our mission statement fits well with application requirements
- Charitable status will help us get grants and receive donations by tax
deductibles
- application will go up on grant wiki for modification and discussion
- question raised: how might it restrict our actions/choices?

Recent communication meeting
---------------------
- talked about publicity
- brochures have been printed
- business cards on the way - including generic cards for people to pass out
- looking for a printer to do a geek calendar for Fall
    - talk to whoever did downtown eastside calendar
    - perhaps to include other FGs
- more DVDs from PDX
- buttons/stickers
- accessibility must be prime for all meetings and venues

Events
------
Mar  6    - FG intergalactic irc meeting
    - 1 hour
Mar 19  - Presentation at VANlug (Vancouver Linux Users group)
    - 1/2 hour
    - play video
    - spiel
    - questions
Mar 21  - Linux Clinic (Windowless Wednesday) - 7-10
    - Roundhouse will not work
    - likely to be at SPEC again
    - OpenOffice.org presentation
    - education meeting next week to discuss needs
    - used at library - outreach/publicity at library
Mar 24  - Sista' Hood
    - will have a table with material and running computers available
    - $30 table
    - on their website with a description
Mar 28  - Movie night - Software "Pirates" and File Sharers
    - 1983 TV show - The Software Chronicles
        - same issues and topics as today
    - "Steal This Film"
        - About the Pirate Bay
Mar 28  - "Massive Tech"
Apr  7    - Next general meeting
    - Video In - 1965 Main St

Donations/Grants $
------------------
- March 1st - won the Canadian Association of Cultural Studies at the
University of Alberta grant - $300
    - will help with future applications
    - included much of the text that went into the Freedonia grant

- Other donations have come in
    - $200 cash
    - Received sound equipment that we can sell to raise money

Ifny's Trip to Portland
-----------------------
- 4 hours at PDX
- picked up FGV's new server by bike
- server donated by PDX to replace old server
- sat with Richard (one of FG-PDX founders)
    - talked about hardware grants

Locations
---------
- 7th & Manitoba
    - for sublease by CBRE
    - in negotiations - off the market
    - good location

- 5th & Quebec
    - 2 sides leased by 2 different companies
    - 6000 sq/ft - 1500 warehouse - 700 reno'd office
    - 2 floors
    - ~$3750/mo
    - might be able to share with another org

Membership definition
---------------------
- by law membership must be defined
- BC societies must have members - not the same as Portland
- basic definition came out of last governance meeting:
    - "Having a volunteer number"
        - people would need to register
    - some contention around how a member is defined compared to how a
member is dismissed
    - issue put back to governance for further discussion
    - please watch governance list

Software/Distro
---------------
- first meeting
- what distro will we use
- moving towards ubuntu for workstation computers, debian for servers
- our version will likely be tweaked to FGV's liking
- ubuntu is flexible and has lots of support

Charitable status
-----------------
- meeting with Omar from Pedal Power
- talked about his experience with charitable status application
- Omar suggested now is the right time - apply now while you don't have
to prove anything. The idea of where you're going to go is more important.
- our mission statement fits well with application requirements
- Charitable status will help us get grants and receive donations by tax
deductibles
- application will go up on grant wiki for modification and discussion
- question raised: how might it restrict our actions/choices?

Recent communication meeting
---------------------
- talked about publicity
- brochures have been printed
- business cards on the way - including generic cards for people to pass out
- looking for a printer to do a geek calendar for Fall
    - talk to whoever did downtown eastside calendar
    - perhaps to include other FGs
- more DVDs from PDX
- buttons/stickers
- accessibility must be prime for all meetings and venues

Events
------
Mar  6    - FG intergalactic irc meeting
    - 1 hour
Mar 19  - Presentation at VANlug (Vancouver Linux Users group)
    - 1/2 hour
    - play video
    - spiel
    - questions
Mar 21  - Linux Clinic (Windowless Wednesday) - 7-10
    - Roundhouse will not work
    - likely to be at SPEC again
    - OpenOffice.org presentation
    - education meeting next week to discuss needs
    - used at library - outreach/publicity at library
Mar 24  - Sista' Hood
    - will have a table with material and running computers available
    - $30 table
    - on their website with a description
Mar 28  - Movie night - Software "Pirates" and File Sharers
    - 1983 TV show - The Software Chronicles
        - same issues and topics as today
    - "Steal This Film"
        - About the Pirate Bay
Mar 28  - "Massive Tech"
Apr  7    - Next general meeting
    - Video In - 1965 Main St



From sean.brookes at contentsolutions.ca  Thu Mar  8 11:57:43 2007
From: sean.brookes at contentsolutions.ca (Sean Brookes)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:57:43 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] EcoGeek - Technology for the Environment - Linux Prevents
 Obsolescence: Could Reduce E-Waste by Millions of Tons of per Year
In-Reply-To: <45EF7C6C.4090706@seanhill.ca>
References: <45EF7C6C.4090706@seanhill.ca>
Message-ID: <45F06AB7.2060807@contentsolutions.ca>

Hey all,

I came across this link  today and thought I would share it.

http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/459/index.html


From sean at seanhill.ca  Thu Mar  8 12:10:39 2007
From: sean at seanhill.ca (sean hill)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:10:39 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] 2007-03-07 - meeting minutes - corrected
Message-ID: <45F06DBF.9070609@seanhill.ca>

Hey folks, sorry for the weird minutes... not sure how that happened.

Hope this one works properly...

===============================================

Free Geek General Meeting - 3 March 2007

Agenda
======

Old Business
- PayPal
- Summit on IT
- Location - Victoria/Powell

New Business
- Donation/Grant $
- Locations
- Membership definition
- Charitable status

Events
- March 19 - VANlug
- 21 - Linux Clinic - Windowless Wednesday
- 24 - Sista' Hood
- 28 - Movie Night - Software "Pirates" and Files Shares
- April 7 - General Meeting - Video In 1965 Main St


Paypal
------
- Up and running - online
- registered as non-profit - lower fees
- Separate Vancity account for PayPal
- Still looking at other options

Summit on IT
------------
- 24th - Supposed to be there but fee was $1200
- too expensive, opted out
- brochures were to be put into bags of entrants
- about 150 distributed

Locations - Victoria/Powell
--------------------------
- looked at by David and Directors
- good location - $ 1500 month
- option to expand to basement
- elevator ~4x5 foot - wouldn't fit a std skid
- door to upstairs facility too small
- asked to resize door - said they would but rent would increase by sq foot
- offered to donate door and labour - refused
- off the radar
- developed good relationship with Colliers (Scott)

Donations/Grants $
------------------
- March 1st - won the Canadian Association of Cultural Studies at the
University of Alberta grant - $300
    - will help with future applications
    - included much of the text that went into the Freedonia grant

- Other donations have come in
    - $200 cash
    - Received sound equipment that we can sell to raise money

Ifny's Trip to Portland
-----------------------
- 4 hours at PDX
- picked up FGV's new server by bike
- server donated by PDX to replace old server
- sat with Richard (one of FG-PDX founders)
    - talked about hardware grants

Locations
---------
- 7th & Manitoba
    - for sublease by CBRE
    - in negotiations - off the market
    - good location

- 5th & Quebec
    - 2 sides leased by 2 different companies
    - 6000 sq/ft - 1500 warehouse - 700 reno'd office
    - 2 floors
    - ~$3750/mo
    - might be able to share with another org

Membership definition
---------------------
- by law membership must be defined
- BC societies must have members - not the same as Portland
- basic definition came out of last governance meeting:
    - "Having a volunteer number"
        - people would need to register
    - some contention around how a member is defined compared to how a
member is dismissed
    - issue put back to governance for further discussion
    - please watch governance list

Software/Distro
---------------
- first meeting
- what distro will we use
- moving towards ubuntu for workstation computers, debian for servers
- our version will likely be tweaked to FGV's liking
- ubuntu is flexible and has lots of support

Charitable status
-----------------
- meeting with Omar from Pedal Power
- talked about his experience with charitable status application
- Omar suggested now is the right time - apply now while you don't have
to prove anything. The idea of where you're going to go is more important.
- our mission statement fits well with application requirements
- Charitable status will help us get grants and receive donations by tax
deductibles
- application will go up on grant wiki for modification and discussion
- question raised: how might it restrict our actions/choices?

Recent communication meeting
---------------------
- talked about publicity
- brochures have been printed
- business cards on the way - including generic cards for people to pass out
- looking for a printer to do a geek calendar for Fall
    - talk to whoever did downtown eastside calendar
    - perhaps to include other FGs
- more DVDs from PDX
- buttons/stickers
- accessibility must be prime for all meetings and venues

Events
------
Mar  6    - FG intergalactic irc meeting
    - 1 hour
Mar 19  - Presentation at VANlug (Vancouver Linux Users group)
    - 1/2 hour
    - play video
    - spiel
    - questions
Mar 21  - Linux Clinic (Windowless Wednesday) - 7-10
    - Roundhouse will not work
    - likely to be at SPEC again
    - OpenOffice.org presentation
    - education meeting next week to discuss needs
    - used at library - outreach/publicity at library
Mar 24  - Sista' Hood
    - will have a table with material and running computers available
    - $30 table
    - on their website with a description
Mar 28  - Movie night - Software "Pirates" and File Sharers
    - 1983 TV show - The Software Chronicles
        - same issues and topics as today
    - "Steal This Film"
        - About the Pirate Bay
Mar 28  - "Massive Tech"
Apr  7    - Next general meeting
    - Video In - 1965 Main St



From freegeek at seanhill.ca  Thu Mar  8 12:52:26 2007
From: freegeek at seanhill.ca (sean hill)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:52:26 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] meeting minutes - 2007-03-07 - corrected
Message-ID: <45F0778A.90609@seanhill.ca>

Sorry about the weird duplications in the minutes... not sure what
happened, but hope this one works properly.

sean h  :o)

=======================================

Free Geek General Meeting - 3 March 2007

Agenda
======

Old Business
- PayPal
- Summit on IT
- Location - Victoria/Powell

New Business
- Donation/Grant $
- Locations
- Membership definition
- Charitable status

Events
- March 19 - VANlug
- 21 - Linux Clinic - Windowless Wednesday
- 24 - Sista' Hood
- 28 - Movie Night - Software "Pirates" and Files Shares
- April 7 - General Meeting - Video In 1965 Main St


Paypal
------
- Up and running - online
- registered as non-profit - lower fees
- Separate Vancity account for PayPal
- Still looking at other options

Summit on IT
------------
- 24th - Supposed to be there but fee was $1200
- too expensive, opted out
- brochures were to be put into bags of entrants
- about 150 distributed

Locations - Victoria/Powell
--------------------------
- looked at by David and Directors
- good location - $ 1500 month
- option to expand to basement
- elevator ~4x5 foot - wouldn't fit a std skid
- door to upstairs facility too small
- asked to resize door - said they would but rent would increase by sq foot
- offered to donate door and labour - refused
- off the radar
- developed good relationship with Colliers (Scott)

Donations/Grants $
------------------
- March 1st - won the Canadian Association of Cultural Studies at the
University of Alberta grant - $300
    - will help with future applications
    - included much of the text that went into the Freedonia grant

- Other donations have come in
    - $200 cash
    - Received sound equipment that we can sell to raise money

Ifny's Trip to Portland
-----------------------
- 4 hours at PDX
- picked up FGV's new server by bike
- server donated by PDX to replace old server
- sat with Richard (one of FG-PDX founders)
    - talked about hardware grants

Locations
---------
- 7th & Manitoba
    - for sublease by CBRE
    - in negotiations - off the market
    - good location

- 5th & Quebec
    - 2 sides leased by 2 different companies
    - 6000 sq/ft - 1500 warehouse - 700 reno'd office
    - 2 floors
    - ~$3750/mo
    - might be able to share with another org

Membership definition
---------------------
- by law membership must be defined
- BC societies must have members - not the same as Portland
- basic definition came out of last governance meeting:
    - "Having a volunteer number"
        - people would need to register
    - some contention around how a member is defined compared to how a
member is dismissed
    - issue put back to governance for further discussion
    - please watch governance list

Software/Distro
---------------
- first meeting
- what distro will we use
- moving towards ubuntu for workstation computers, debian for servers
- our version will likely be tweaked to FGV's liking
- ubuntu is flexible and has lots of support

Charitable status
-----------------
- meeting with Omar from Pedal Depot
- talked about his experience with charitable status application
- Omar suggested now is the right time - apply now while you don't have
to prove anything. The idea of where you're going to go is more important.
- our mission statement fits well with application requirements
- Charitable status will help us get grants and receive donations by tax
deductibles
- application will go up on grant wiki for modification and discussion
- question raised: how might it restrict our actions/choices?

Recent communication meeting
---------------------
- talked about publicity
- brochures have been printed
- business cards on the way - including generic cards for people to pass out
- looking for a printer to do a geek calendar for Fall
    - talk to whoever did downtown eastside calendar
    - perhaps to include other FGs
- more DVDs from PDX
- buttons/stickers
- accessibility must be prime for all meetings and venues

Events
------
Mar  6    - FG intergalactic irc meeting
    - 1 hour
Mar 19  - Presentation at VANlug (Vancouver Linux Users group)
    - 1/2 hour
    - play video
    - spiel
    - questions
Mar 21  - Linux Clinic (Windowless Wednesday) - 7-10
    - Roundhouse will not work
    - likely to be at SPEC again
    - OpenOffice.org presentation
    - education meeting next week to discuss needs
    - used at library - outreach/publicity at library
Mar 24  - Sista' Hood
    - will have a table with material and running computers available
    - $30 table
    - on their website with a description
Mar 28  - Movie night - Software "Pirates" and File Sharers
    - 1983 TV show - The Software Chronicles
        - same issues and topics as today
    - "Steal This Film"
        - About the Pirate Bay
Mar 28  - "Massive Tech"
Apr  7    - Next general meeting
    - Video In - 1965 Main St



From foszae at telus.net  Sun Mar 11 18:40:18 2007
From: foszae at telus.net (Foszae)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:40:18 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Self-Introduction
Message-ID: <45F4AF82.8040707@telus.net>

Hi Folks, my name is jules and i've been meaning to take part in Free 
Geek for a bit but have been slow.  But i'm here now and need to take part.

so who am i?  old-school geek.  the first machine i got to play with was 
the Commodore PET, had plenty of time on the Vic20, C64, the TRS-80, the 
Apple IIs. 

Been a database geek for 8 or 9 years.  Currently i use the (non-linux) 
Filemaker for my bread & butter. 

i've been an Ubuntu pusher since 4.10.  on my home machine, i run 
Xubuntu and until this weekend i had a smooth-running Beryl.  Then i 
decided it was time to move up to Feisty Fawn.  crashed all the nice effects

been an activist for most of my life.  started off with the Peace 
Marches in the late 80s.  Put in years with Adbusters.  Spent some time 
with the Purple Thistle.  Now putting time in with Momentum Mag.

So that's my capsule history. 
Looking forward to contributing in whatever turns out to be the most 
useful way that i can

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From lorbunny at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 12 13:27:01 2007
From: lorbunny at hotmail.com (Lorraine Smith)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:27:01 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] Self-Introduction
In-Reply-To: <45F4AF82.8040707@telus.net>
Message-ID: <BAY137-F345EB6E054D6AA6FB7FDB7D07D0@phx.gbl>

Hi Folks,

I would also like to introduce myself. I ran into Scott, heard about his 
latest project, and wanted to be a part of it. I've always thought computer 
geeks were like magicians, and that Linux was a character in Peanuts comix.

My name is Lorraine, and I've had over 10 years in fundraising - 5 years for 
a consulting company, 4 for Red Cross, and recently on the board for Potluck 
Cafe Society, and West Side Family Place.  I'm not remotely geek-ish (you 
should see what I'm typing on!) - but I like to bike.

Right now I'm a stay at home Mom - with 2 bosses under the age of 3. Very 
demanding, but fun.

So I'm keen to help, and will soon be meeting with David to figure out how 
best I can do so.

Look forward to meeting you all,

Lorraine
>
>Hi Folks, my name is jules and i've been meaning to take part in Free Geek 
>for a bit but have been slow.  But i'm here now and need to take part.
>
>so who am i?  old-school geek.  the first machine i got to play with was 
>the Commodore PET, had plenty of time on the Vic20, C64, the TRS-80, the 
>Apple IIs.
>
>Been a database geek for 8 or 9 years.  Currently i use the (non-linux) 
>Filemaker for my bread & butter.
>
>i've been an Ubuntu pusher since 4.10.  on my home machine, i run Xubuntu 
>and until this weekend i had a smooth-running Beryl.  Then i decided it was 
>time to move up to Feisty Fawn.  crashed all the nice effects
>
>been an activist for most of my life.  started off with the Peace Marches 
>in the late 80s.  Put in years with Adbusters.  Spent some time with the 
>Purple Thistle.  Now putting time in with Momentum Mag.
>
>So that's my capsule history. Looking forward to contributing in whatever 
>turns out to be the most useful way that i can
>


>_______________________________________________
>http://freegeekvancouver.org
>'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
>https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van

_________________________________________________________________
Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live 
Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca



From humble at resist.ca  Mon Mar 12 14:09:23 2007
From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:09:23 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Self-Introduction
In-Reply-To: <BAY137-F345EB6E054D6AA6FB7FDB7D07D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY137-F345EB6E054D6AA6FB7FDB7D07D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200703121409.24002.humble@resist.ca>

Yay Lorraine!

You forgot to mention that you starred in the Rocky Dino Opera!

hugs,

Scott

On Monday 12 March 2007 1:27 pm, Lorraine Smith wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I would also like to introduce myself. I ran into Scott, heard about his
> latest project, and wanted to be a part of it. I've always thought computer
> geeks were like magicians, and that Linux was a character in Peanuts comix.
>
> My name is Lorraine, and I've had over 10 years in fundraising - 5 years
> for a consulting company, 4 for Red Cross, and recently on the board for
> Potluck Cafe Society, and West Side Family Place.  I'm not remotely
> geek-ish (you should see what I'm typing on!) - but I like to bike.
>
> Right now I'm a stay at home Mom - with 2 bosses under the age of 3. Very
> demanding, but fun.
>
> So I'm keen to help, and will soon be meeting with David to figure out how
> best I can do so.
>
> Look forward to meeting you all,
>
> Lorraine
>
> >Hi Folks, my name is jules and i've been meaning to take part in Free Geek
> >for a bit but have been slow.  But i'm here now and need to take part.
> >
> >so who am i?  old-school geek.  the first machine i got to play with was
> >the Commodore PET, had plenty of time on the Vic20, C64, the TRS-80, the
> >Apple IIs.
> >
> >Been a database geek for 8 or 9 years.  Currently i use the (non-linux)
> >Filemaker for my bread & butter.
> >
> >i've been an Ubuntu pusher since 4.10.  on my home machine, i run Xubuntu
> >and until this weekend i had a smooth-running Beryl.  Then i decided it
> > was time to move up to Feisty Fawn.  crashed all the nice effects
> >
> >been an activist for most of my life.  started off with the Peace Marches
> >in the late 80s.  Put in years with Adbusters.  Spent some time with the
> >Purple Thistle.  Now putting time in with Momentum Mag.
> >
> >So that's my capsule history. Looking forward to contributing in whatever
> >turns out to be the most useful way that i can
> >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >http://freegeekvancouver.org
> >'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> >https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live
> Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van


From lorbunny at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 13 23:12:16 2007
From: lorbunny at hotmail.com (Lorraine Smith)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:12:16 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] grant applications
In-Reply-To: <45F4AF82.8040707@telus.net>
Message-ID: <BAY137-F28F350480AEE8AC50BAD80D0730@phx.gbl>

Hi All,

I'm doing some research on potential funders on the internet - and I'm   no 
doubt duplicating other people's work. Could someone send me a list of 
funders you've decided to approach?

And to boot - could you send me a copy of the  grant applications that have 
already gone out?

Cheers, Lorraine
>
>Hi Folks, my name is jules and i've been meaning to take part in Free Geek 
>for a bit but have been slow.  But i'm here now and need to take part.
>
>so who am i?  old-school geek.  the first machine i got to play with was 
>the Commodore PET, had plenty of time on the Vic20, C64, the TRS-80, the 
>Apple IIs.
>
>Been a database geek for 8 or 9 years.  Currently i use the (non-linux) 
>Filemaker for my bread & butter.
>
>i've been an Ubuntu pusher since 4.10.  on my home machine, i run Xubuntu 
>and until this weekend i had a smooth-running Beryl.  Then i decided it was 
>time to move up to Feisty Fawn.  crashed all the nice effects
>
>been an activist for most of my life.  started off with the Peace Marches 
>in the late 80s.  Put in years with Adbusters.  Spent some time with the 
>Purple Thistle.  Now putting time in with Momentum Mag.
>
>So that's my capsule history. Looking forward to contributing in whatever 
>turns out to be the most useful way that i can
>


>_______________________________________________
>http://freegeekvancouver.org
>'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
>https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van

_________________________________________________________________
RealLiveMoms: Share your experience with Real Live Moms just like you 
http://www.reallivemoms.ca/



From iamturnip at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 23:23:56 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:23:56 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] grant applications
In-Reply-To: <BAY137-F28F350480AEE8AC50BAD80D0730@phx.gbl>
References: <45F4AF82.8040707@telus.net>
	<BAY137-F28F350480AEE8AC50BAD80D0730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703132323l520b36c5r259cb56a59886357@mail.gmail.com>

Lorraine,

Check out http://seanhill.ca/fgv_grants/index.php?title=Main_Page

for all the juicy details.

-- 
David
604-690-7372


From sean at seanhill.ca  Tue Mar 13 23:27:44 2007
From: sean at seanhill.ca (sean hill)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:27:44 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] grant applications
In-Reply-To: <BAY137-F28F350480AEE8AC50BAD80D0730@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY137-F28F350480AEE8AC50BAD80D0730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <45F795E0.4080903@seanhill.ca>

Hi Lorraine,

All grant applications and past work are currently stored at:

http://seanhill.ca/fgv_grants/

sean h  :o)


Lorraine Smith wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm doing some research on potential funders on the internet - and
> I'm   no doubt duplicating other people's work. Could someone send me
> a list of funders you've decided to approach?
>
> And to boot - could you send me a copy of the  grant applications that
> have already gone out?
>
> Cheers, Lorraine
>>
>> Hi Folks, my name is jules and i've been meaning to take part in Free
>> Geek for a bit but have been slow.  But i'm here now and need to take
>> part.
>>
>> so who am i?  old-school geek.  the first machine i got to play with
>> was the Commodore PET, had plenty of time on the Vic20, C64, the
>> TRS-80, the Apple IIs.
>>
>> Been a database geek for 8 or 9 years.  Currently i use the
>> (non-linux) Filemaker for my bread & butter.
>>
>> i've been an Ubuntu pusher since 4.10.  on my home machine, i run
>> Xubuntu and until this weekend i had a smooth-running Beryl.  Then i
>> decided it was time to move up to Feisty Fawn.  crashed all the nice
>> effects
>>
>> been an activist for most of my life.  started off with the Peace
>> Marches in the late 80s.  Put in years with Adbusters.  Spent some
>> time with the Purple Thistle.  Now putting time in with Momentum Mag.
>>
>> So that's my capsule history. Looking forward to contributing in
>> whatever turns out to be the most useful way that i can
>>
>
>
>> _______________________________________________
>> http://freegeekvancouver.org
>> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> RealLiveMoms: Share your experience with Real Live Moms just like you
> http://www.reallivemoms.ca/
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van


From iamturnip at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 23:49:41 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:49:41 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] governance meetings
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703132349je0b9av9ab4afbf52f2a9bc@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

The governance meetings are starting to pick up!  Topics like
membership definition, consensus, blocking, board selection and
privacy are just some of the juicy things being discussed.  There will
be another gov meeting next week.  The next meeting will start to see
our new by laws being drafted.  Anyone interested should at the least
sign up to the governance mail list[1], and check things out.  Of
course we would love to see all interested folks at the next meeting.

[1]http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/26
-- 
David
604-690-7372


From iamturnip at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 00:33:43 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:33:43 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] Windowsless Wed Poster
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703140033n5449962uf4fd679d684fa15c@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Folks,

I spent Monday going to every Community Centre in Vancouver to put up
a poster for our next Windowsless Wednesday.  Also, the Vancouver
Public Library distributed the poster to all 21 libraies.  Can anyone
confirm for me they went up?

If any one wants to help get the word our about WW, you can put some
posters up at your favorite cafe or other hot spot!  A copy of the
poster in pdf format can be found on the FG website[1].

Hope everyone is well, and welcome to the three new folks that showed
up this week on the list!

[1]http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=gallery&g2_itemId=83

-- 
David
604-690-7372


From unixd0od at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 14 03:17:10 2007
From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (unixd0od at hotmail.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:17:10 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Windowsless Wed Poster
References: <8c0eafaa0703140033n5449962uf4fd679d684fa15c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV74AF666F2961FD7DC00E59A730@phx.gbl>

Do you have a link to the poster? I'd like to know what "windowless 
Wednesday" is.

Please tell me it's not a bunch of people sitting around bashing Microsoft.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Repa" <iamturnip at gmail.com>
To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 00:33
Subject: [FreeGeek] Windowsless Wed Poster

> Hey Folks,
>
> I spent Monday going to every Community Centre in Vancouver to put up
> a poster for our next Windowsless Wednesday.  Also, the Vancouver
> Public Library distributed the poster to all 21 libraies.  Can anyone
> confirm for me they went up?
>
> If any one wants to help get the word our about WW, you can put some
> posters up at your favorite cafe or other hot spot!  A copy of the
> poster in pdf format can be found on the FG website[1].
>
> Hope everyone is well, and welcome to the three new folks that showed
> up this week on the list!
>
> [1]http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=gallery&g2_itemId=83
>
> -- 
> David
> 604-690-7372
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> 


From unixd0od at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 14 03:19:12 2007
From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (unixd0od at hotmail.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:19:12 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Windowsless Wed Poster
References: <8c0eafaa0703140033n5449962uf4fd679d684fa15c@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY117-DAV74AF666F2961FD7DC00E59A730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV10387BA0286283BF0062069A730@phx.gbl>

Oops. Nevermind. Probably should read emails completely before replying.

It's 3am though, yeah, that's the problem, yeah.

----- Original Message -----
From: <unixd0od at hotmail.com>
To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 03:17
Subject: Re: [FreeGeek] Windowsless Wed Poster

> Do you have a link to the poster? I'd like to know what "windowless 
> Wednesday" is.
>
> Please tell me it's not a bunch of people sitting around bashing 
> Microsoft.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Repa" <iamturnip at gmail.com>
> To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 00:33
> Subject: [FreeGeek] Windowsless Wed Poster
>
>> Hey Folks,
>>
>> I spent Monday going to every Community Centre in Vancouver to put up
>> a poster for our next Windowsless Wednesday.  Also, the Vancouver
>> Public Library distributed the poster to all 21 libraies.  Can anyone
>> confirm for me they went up?
>>
>> If any one wants to help get the word our about WW, you can put some
>> posters up at your favorite cafe or other hot spot!  A copy of the
>> poster in pdf format can be found on the FG website[1].
>>
>> Hope everyone is well, and welcome to the three new folks that showed
>> up this week on the list!
>>
>> [1]http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=gallery&g2_itemId=83
>>
>> -- 
>> David
>> 604-690-7372
>> _______________________________________________
>> http://freegeekvancouver.org
>> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>>
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> 


From iamturnip at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 07:30:41 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:30:41 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] Windowsless Wed Poster
In-Reply-To: <BAY117-DAV74AF666F2961FD7DC00E59A730@phx.gbl>
References: <8c0eafaa0703140033n5449962uf4fd679d684fa15c@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY117-DAV74AF666F2961FD7DC00E59A730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703140730y6875fccci764e5771330c167d@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmm,

> Please tell me it's not a bunch of people sitting around bashing Microsoft.
>

Well, not literally, but the intent is to show people a better
alternative.  One of Free Geek's purposes is to promote open source
software.  Simply sitting around and bashing Microsoft wouldn't be
productive.  It is only through teaching people the correct way to get
away from Microsoft, will we ever see real change.

-- 
David
604-690-7372


From iamturnip at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 08:26:33 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:26:33 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] call out for mobo
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703140826g3c233069l357d9ef66c90e9fd@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Geeks!

Free Geek might need a "new to us" motherboard for our server.  The
server we got is throwing some kernel panics, and she doesn't like to
reboot.  So.  We are looking for a mobo that can support a P4
Northwood 3.08 HyperThread chip and have two SATA connectors.  We have
everythying else, HD, RAM etc.  Any one out there with something
collecting dust? Can anyone suggest a good board for that chip in case
we need to.. gasp.... buy one?

-- 
David
604-690-7372


From unixd0od at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 14 11:30:43 2007
From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (unixd0od at hotmail.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:30:43 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] call out for mobo
References: <8c0eafaa0703140826g3c233069l357d9ef66c90e9fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV31F9CF90E05E0E27E7D4D9A730@phx.gbl>

Is that a socket 478 chip?

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Repa" <iamturnip at gmail.com>
To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 08:26
Subject: [FreeGeek] call out for mobo

> Hey Geeks!
> 
> Free Geek might need a "new to us" motherboard for our server.  The
> server we got is throwing some kernel panics, and she doesn't like to
> reboot.  So.  We are looking for a mobo that can support a P4
> Northwood 3.08 HyperThread chip and have two SATA connectors.  We have
> everythying else, HD, RAM etc.  Any one out there with something
> collecting dust? Can anyone suggest a good board for that chip in case
> we need to.. gasp.... buy one?
> 
> -- 
> David
> 604-690-7372
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> 


From sean.brookes at contentsolutions.ca  Wed Mar 14 11:43:43 2007
From: sean.brookes at contentsolutions.ca (Sean Brookes)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:43:43 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Windowsless Wed Poster
In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0703140730y6875fccci764e5771330c167d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c0eafaa0703140033n5449962uf4fd679d684fa15c@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY117-DAV74AF666F2961FD7DC00E59A730@phx.gbl>
	<8c0eafaa0703140730y6875fccci764e5771330c167d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45F8425F.1080702@contentsolutions.ca>

I scanned and posted poster on tazzu.ca.  Tazzu is a relatively new 
Vancouver tech forum run by some good people.  There is a strong 
Linux/Ubuntu presence on the forum so hopefully there will be some 
interest.  Based on historical numbers it should get at least a couple 
hundred views. The link is here if anyone is interested:

http://www.tazzu.com/viewtopic.php?t=945

cheers,
Sean

David Repa wrote:
> Hmmm,
>
>> Please tell me it's not a bunch of people sitting around bashing 
>> Microsoft.
>>
>
> Well, not literally, but the intent is to show people a better
> alternative.  One of Free Geek's purposes is to promote open source
> software.  Simply sitting around and bashing Microsoft wouldn't be
> productive.  It is only through teaching people the correct way to get
> away from Microsoft, will we ever see real change.
>



From lorbunny at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 14 14:34:55 2007
From: lorbunny at hotmail.com (Lorraine Smith)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:34:55 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] grant applications
In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0703132323l520b36c5r259cb56a59886357@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY137-F113D52B6A0EE0A23B571F6D0730@phx.gbl>

Well Drrr, what  a ninny I am.

Ok, I've started a spreadsheet, and I'll e mail it to you before our meeting 
tomorrow.

Lorraininny
>
>Lorraine,
>
>Check out http://seanhill.ca/fgv_grants/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
>for all the juicy details.
>
>--
>David
>604-690-7372
>_______________________________________________
>http://freegeekvancouver.org
>'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
>https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van

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From iamturnip at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 20:36:57 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:36:57 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] call out for mobo
In-Reply-To: <BAY117-DAV31F9CF90E05E0E27E7D4D9A730@phx.gbl>
References: <8c0eafaa0703140826g3c233069l357d9ef66c90e9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY117-DAV31F9CF90E05E0E27E7D4D9A730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703142036n5cdc212btdb94fc3d39d9fc4e@mail.gmail.com>

It certainly is!!  Any leads?


On 3/14/07, unixd0od at hotmail.com <unixd0od at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is that a socket 478 chip?
>

 --
David
604-690-7372


From unixd0od at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 15 02:17:37 2007
From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (unixd0od at hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:17:37 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] call out for mobo
References: <8c0eafaa0703140826g3c233069l357d9ef66c90e9fd@mail.gmail.com><BAY117-DAV31F9CF90E05E0E27E7D4D9A730@phx.gbl>
	<8c0eafaa0703142036n5cdc212btdb94fc3d39d9fc4e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV53CA832A2A977518111019A720@phx.gbl>

I personally have never used an ASRock board before so I can't comment on their quality. The price is certainly decent though. 

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18887&vpn=P4I65G&manufacture=ASRock

Joe,
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From skisby at web.net  Thu Mar 15 01:09:47 2007
From: skisby at web.net (Steve Kisby)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:09:47 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] WCCIA Electronic Product Stewardship Plan Registration
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20070315000947.00abbb00@shawmail.vc.shawcable.net>

For your information...

----- Forwarded message -----
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:48:36 -0800
From: WCCIA - Western Canada Computer Industry Association <info at compuvision.ca>
Subject: WCCIA Electronic Product Stewardship Plan Registration
To: WCCIA <info at compuvision.ca>
Organization: Western Canada Computer Industry Association

March 13, 2007

Dear Owner or Manager,

This is an important message for anyone who sells, distributes, manufactures, or imports electronic products in or into British Columbia.

The Province of British Columbia will introduce a recycling program for electronic products in the coming months.  As part of the new recycling regulation (Environmental Management Act, Recycling Regulation - B.C. Reg. 449/2004), anyone who sells, distributes, manufactures, or imports electronic products (herein called producers) in or into British Columbia must adopt and adhere to an Electronic Product Stewardship Plan.  Products included in the Electronic Product Category of the Recycling Regulation are:  desktop computers, servers, laptop (or notebook) computers, printers, and televisions. 

I have attached the registration package for the Western Canada Computer Industry Association's (WCCIA) Electronic Product Stewardship Plan.

The Western Canada Computer Industry Association (WCCIA ) - previously the Western Canada Computer Distributor Society, in collaboration with Canada Electronic Waste Management (CEWM) - has submitted an Electronic Product Stewardship Plan to the Ministry of Environment, Province of British Columbia on behalf of its membership.  A copy of the Electronic Product Stewardship Plan can be viewed at the WCCIA website.  The WCCIA members consist of retailers, distributors, manufacturers, and importers of computer and television products.  To comply with the new recycling regulation, all WCCIA members (or producers) will adopt and adhere to the Electronic Product Stewardship Plan.

The Recycling Regulation - B.C. Reg. 449/2004, can be found here:
http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/reg/E/envMgmt/449_2004.htm

A description of Schedule 3 - Electronic Product Category, can be found here:
http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/reg/E/envMgmt/449_2004.htm#Schedule3ElectronicProductCategory

Please complete the attached registration form and fax it back ASAP to ensure your organization complies with the Recycling Regulation.

If you have any questions or concerns, please call or send me an e-mail.

Sincerely,

John Crocock, President
Western Canada Computer Industry Association
Unit 140 - 3600 Viking Way
Richmond, BC  V6V 1N6
Tel: (604) 244-9645
Fax: (604) 244-9859
E-mail: jcrocock at compuvision.ca
   
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From technician at coopradio.org  Thu Mar 15 15:47:22 2007
From: technician at coopradio.org (Danjel van Tijn)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:47:22 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] Co-op radio needs computer help
Message-ID: <45F9CCFA.8080803@coopradio.org>

Hi there,

Co-op radio is looking for someone trustworthy/reliable to help with 
basic maintenance of our computer network.
Basically someone to come in and look at our systems for about 4 hours a 
month (we can pay for this).

Of immediate concern (and we are willing to pay a fair wage for this) is 
to fix our antivirus system (symantec corporate edition, it is not 
updating the client computer virus defs and appears to be locked) and 
our HP tape backup system (the scripts are all messed up). Both of these 
problems are on one computer host and may be due to network settings.

We only have about 6 computers in our network and they are all running 
Windows2K. We have thought about going to Ubuntu but we need to use MS 
Access (integral to our organization as we have used it to build our 
membership database of over 18k people).

Does anyone know someone that could help us out? For the regular 
computer maintenance we can afford to pay $25/hr (e.g. $100/mo). But for 
the immediate problems with AV and tape backup we will pay whatever is a 
fare rate.

Please contact Danjel for more details.

technician at coopradio.org
604-773-2426


From humble at resist.ca  Thu Mar 15 17:35:05 2007
From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:35:05 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] call out for mobo
In-Reply-To: <BAY117-DAV53CA832A2A977518111019A720@phx.gbl>
References: <8c0eafaa0703140826g3c233069l357d9ef66c90e9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<8c0eafaa0703142036n5cdc212btdb94fc3d39d9fc4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY117-DAV53CA832A2A977518111019A720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200703151735.05695.humble@resist.ca>

I have 6 x 1gig EEC RAM chips. The current Abit doesn't seem to like them. 
Would this, do you know??

~s

On Thursday 15 March 2007 2:17 am, unixd0od at hotmail.com wrote:
> I personally have never used an ASRock board before so I can't comment on
> their quality. The price is certainly decent though.
>
> http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18887&vpn=P4I65G&manufacture=ASR
>ock
>
> Joe,


From unixd0od at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 15 18:03:51 2007
From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (unixd0od at hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:03:51 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] call out for mobo
References: <8c0eafaa0703140826g3c233069l357d9ef66c90e9fd@mail.gmail.com><8c0eafaa0703142036n5cdc212btdb94fc3d39d9fc4e@mail.gmail.com><BAY117-DAV53CA832A2A977518111019A720@phx.gbl>
	<200703151735.05695.humble@resist.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV949DFD9EE3F8F5B9A115E9A710@phx.gbl>

- Dual Channel DDR memory technology
- 2 x DDR DIMM slots
- Supports DDR400/333/266
- Max. capacity: 2GB

I don't know anything about "EEC" memory, or was that a typo of ECC?

Here's the manufacturers page for this board:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P4i65G&s=n

Joe,

----- Original Message -----
From: "agent humble" <humble at resist.ca>
To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 17:35
Subject: Re: [FreeGeek] call out for mobo

>I have 6 x 1gig EEC RAM chips. The current Abit doesn't seem to like them.
> Would this, do you know??
>
> ~s
>
> On Thursday 15 March 2007 2:17 am, unixd0od at hotmail.com wrote:
>> I personally have never used an ASRock board before so I can't comment on
>> their quality. The price is certainly decent though.
>>
>> http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18887&vpn=P4I65G&manufacture=ASR
>>ock
>>
>> Joe,
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> 


From iamturnip at gmail.com  Fri Mar 16 00:45:06 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:45:06 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] call out for mobo
In-Reply-To: <200703151735.05695.humble@resist.ca>
References: <8c0eafaa0703140826g3c233069l357d9ef66c90e9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<8c0eafaa0703142036n5cdc212btdb94fc3d39d9fc4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY117-DAV53CA832A2A977518111019A720@phx.gbl>
	<200703151735.05695.humble@resist.ca>
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703160045t4750d227lb1ec4e0ce9652db5@mail.gmail.com>

Scott,

I don't believe it does, according to the docs.  Nice amount of ECC ram though!

On 3/15/07, agent humble <humble at resist.ca> wrote:
> I have 6 x 1gig EEC RAM chips. The current Abit doesn't seem to like them.
> Would this, do you know??
>
> ~s
>
> On Thursday 15 March 2007 2:17 am, unixd0od at hotmail.com wrote:
> > I personally have never used an ASRock board before so I can't comment on
> > their quality. The price is certainly decent though.
> >
> > http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18887&vpn=P4I65G&manufacture=ASR
> >ock
> >
> > Joe,
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>


-- 
David
604-690-7372


From humble at resist.ca  Sun Mar 18 18:07:37 2007
From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:07:37 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] CBC: The effluence of affluence
Message-ID: <200703181807.37767.humble@resist.ca>

E-waste
The effluence of affluence
By Romana King, CBC News

The scene is set: Humans struggle to survive on an Earth ? now toxic and 
contaminated ? that is suffocating beneath the cast-off electronic and 
electric goods of yesteryear.

While most would consider this to be the archetypal scene of a dystopian 
future, some experts are saying it's not far off from the current reality.

The United Nations Environmental Programme estimates that nearly 50 million 
tonnes of electronics waste (e-waste) are disposed of each year worldwide. As 
a result, various international agreements, treaties and conventions have 
been created, debated and signed in an effort to deal with the rising 
mountain of techno-trash.

Despite current efforts to quell the spread of e-waste, environmental 
advocates and academics are concerned that not enough is being done.

According to University of Toronto Prof. Douglas MacDonald, consumers 
(including individuals, corporations and government institutions) can do two 
things to help the environment: one, create cleaner and more efficient 
technology; and two, change their behaviour.

    Environment Canada offers these suggestions for dealing with electric and 
electronic equipment:

        * If possible, upgrade your computer, electronic or electric goods 
rather than replacing them.
        * Check with the equipment's manufacturer to find out about product 
take-back policies and programs.
        * Instead of throwing it out, donate your old computer equipment to a 
family member, friend or a charitable organization that can put it to use. Go 
to www.reboot.on.ca to find a recycling location (or school computer 
program).
        * Find an organization in your community that accepts old computer 
equipment for refurbishing (but check its credentials to make sure unusable 
items or components are actually recycled).
        * Check with your local computer store or municipality to learn about 
disposal or recycling options in your area.
        * Increase your community's awareness of the issue by passing this 
information on to friends and neighbours.
        * Make your local technology supplier aware of your desire for 
pollution-preventative products.


Some feel the first option ? supporting technological change ? allows people 
to keep doing the same things, while consuming fewer resources and generating 
less pollution.

"The push for greener technology is an effort to conserve resources of all 
kinds," said MacDonald, director of environmental studies at the U of T's 
Innes College, who specializes in business and environmental politics. "It's 
an effort to reduce pollution that we put into the natural world."

The second option ? a change in behaviour ? requires that we simply don't do 
all the things we were doing before, and instead adopt more environmentally 
sustainable habits. In other words, reduce our impact on the planet by using 
up and tossing out less.

So-called "green technology" is a hot topic that's drawing a lot of attention 
as concern about human impact on the environment grows. But MacDonald said 
the emphasis placed on developing new technology overshadows the larger, more 
dramatic changes that are necessary for real sustainable living in a 
technologically advanced world.

"Governments emphasize the first approach rather than asking people to make 
larger lifestyle changes," he said.

MacDonald's comments come in the wake of statements made by the head of the UN 
Environmental Programme, Achim Steiner, about the hazards of e-waste. "The 
world's richest nations are dumping hazardous electronic waste on poor 
African countries," and consumerism is driving a "growing mountain of 
e-waste," Steiner said at the 8th Basel Convention in Nairobi late last year.
Canada's role

In an effort to deal with the issue of e-waste, Canada ratified the first 
Basel Convention, an international treaty that was designed to reduce the 
movement of hazardous waste between nations, in 1992. Since then, the 
federal, provincial, and territorial environment ministers have adopted 12 
principles for electronic products stewardship, said Duncan Bury, head of 
product policy at Environment Canada's National Office of Pollution 
Prevention. These principles are meant to help communities develop electronic 
waste disposal programs.

Jay Illingworth, vice-president of Electronics Product Stewardship Canada 
(EPSC) ? an industry-backed group ? believes that the newly introduced 
provincial electronic stewardship programs are a step in the right regulatory 
direction. "[ESPC] information on the necessity of life-cycle initiatives 
even predated Environment Canada's research. With these programs, Canada's 
manufacturers are stepping up and doing the right thing," Illingworth said.

As of last year, however, only British Columbia and Saskatchewan had 
implemented EPSC-inspired stewardship programs. Nova Scotia has a plan to 
start phasing in an e-waste stewardship program in February 2008. Alberta is 
the only province to include electronics in its recycling program. Yet Bury 
and other government representatives are optimistic that Canada is on the 
right track.

"Throwing these items in a landfill is cheaper [than recycling], but it does 
not support our environmental goals," Bury said. "As such, in two years, by 
the end of 2008, the vast majority of consumers will have access to recycling 
for computers, televisions and other small electric and electronic 
appliances."

The fact remains, however, that provincial regulations and the way they're 
enforced differ across the country. This has academics and environmentalists 
worried.

"The stewardship programs are voluntary and there is very good analysis of how 
well voluntary programs work ? analysis that shows there are inherent 
problems," said Miriam Diamond, a professor in the U of T's geography and 
chemical engineering departments and with the Institute for Environmental 
Studies who specializes in pollution issues. "We don't pay our taxes on a 
voluntary basis, so the question we need to ask is why should we be dealing 
with such a pervasive problem on a voluntary basis?"

Underlining this issue, in late December 2006, a joint investigation by 
federal agencies uncovered 50 shipping containers in the Vancouver port 
loaded with about 500,000 kilograms of metal and plastic scrap destined for 
China and Hong Kong. The waste included thousands of computer monitors 
containing pollutants such as lead, cadmium and mercury, all substances 
proven to be toxic. While Environment Canada enforcement officers could not 
precisely determine the origin of the computer waste, they believe it was 
from a mixture of private corporations, individuals and even government 
agencies, most of them located in Ontario and Quebec.

This is not a surprise to Jim Puckett, director of the Basel Action Network 
(BAN), an environmental advocacy organization that tracks hazardous waste. 
Seven years ago, it became illegal to import e-waste into China due to 
environmentally unsound recycling practices. Yet in 2004, BAN filmed the 
arrival of trucks filled with obsolete or cast-off electronic equipment, 
mostly from North America, Europe and Japan.

China is still receiving e-waste shipments. Typical wages for the workers who 
deal with it are between $2 and $4 a day. Their job is to dismantle the 
components of e-waste (computers, small household appliances, and cellphones) 
and salvage steel, aluminum, copper, plastic and gold. In the process, they 
are exposed to lead, cadmium, mercury and chromium, which, according to the 
California Waste Management Board, are "extremely poisonous" and "have been 
implicated as a cause of human deaths."

Diamond, MacDonald, and Puckett say the only way to properly address the 
e-waste issue, both domestically and internationally, is through government 
regulation.

"It has been noted by numerous economists that there is a strong advantage to 
the regulatory approach," Diamond said. "It pushes industry to innovate, and 
there is a strong relationship between countries with strong environmental 
regulations and countries with high technological advantage and prosperity."

Diamond, a self-described pragmatic idealist, believes that significant 
changes in the management of e-waste will only occur through federal 
legislation.

"Purchasing power is important, and consumer demand is powerful, but it is not 
enough. In the end we, as a nation, need to advance our prosperity and 
technological advantage through legislation."
The consumer impact

In 2003, Environment Canada released a report that said Canadians disposed of 
160,000 tonnes of e-waste in the previous year. It predicted this amount 
would increase, if nothing was done, to 206,000 tonnes by 2010 ? enough to 
fill 430 Olympic-sized swimming pools. Just under half of this waste comes 
from residential collection programs, according to Statistics Canada.

"Technology, change and how we deal with it will only occur with consumer 
demand," MacDonald said.

Part of this involves making changes to the product life cycle. If consumers 
demand products that are more durable and that don't have to be replaced as 
often, then the issue of waste is addressed from a behavioural level, 
MacDonald said. "Durability is part of the equation. The longer a product 
lasts, the more it reduces the strain" on waste management resources, on 
production resources and on the environment as a whole, he said.

"The government needs to use taxes, laws and legislation to discourage 
companies from planned obsolescence," MacDonald said.

A recent example of the impact of product obsolescence is seen in the release 
of Windows Vista. A report released by SoftChoice Corp., a technology 
consulting company, stated that roughly 50 per cent of personal computers 
currently on the market were "below Windows Vista's basic system 
requirements." That incompatibility could result in nearly 10 million 
discarded PCs becoming landfill fodder within the next two years, as people 
upgrade their operating system and hardware, said Tony Roberts, CEO of 
Computer Aid International, a U.K. charity.

PC Pro Magazine reports that despite the potential disposal legacy of the 
Vista launch, Microsoft will not be paying into any plan to help people 
upgrade their current computers at minimal cost (both financially and in 
terms of resources), nor into any new recycling programs for old IT 
equipment, nor into any environment programs that deal with the effects of 
e-waste. Microsoft officials could not be reached for comment.

"There needs to be a federal initiative that says companies that construct 
these products must be responsible for their e-waste," Diamond said.

Diamond wants the industry to change not just recycling practices, but how 
products are made. "It is unconscionable that these industries have created a 
two- or three-year turnover for these products when we could easily repair or 
replace components," she said.

Repairable and replaceable products, planned durability, legislation 
restricting toxic elements, and waste planning are essential in dealing with 
the global e-waste dilemma, environmental experts say. But the real change 
will come when "simply put, we find other ways to find happiness and 
self-esteem than through the purchase of a product," MacDonald said.

 


From skisby at web.net  Sun Mar 18 19:13:49 2007
From: skisby at web.net (Steve Kisby)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:13:49 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] Saskatchewan SWEEPs out its toxic e-waste
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20070318181349.010e82b0@shawmail.vc.shawcable.net>

For your information...

http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Voice-Data-and-IP/940c367c-6a34-458f-b030-ca0293f384fb.html

Saskatchewan SWEEPs out its toxic e-waste
By: Mari-Len De Guzman
ComputerWorld Canada  (02 Mar 2007)

One Canadian province recently became a showcase of industry?s efforts toward embracing its responsibility to clean up the environment.

The Saskatchewan Waste Electronic Equipment Program (SWEEP) was spearheaded by Electronics Product Stewardship Canada (EPSC) in answer to the Waste Electronic Equipment Regulation issued by the provincial government of Saskatchewan in October 2005.

EPSC is a national association of computer and electronic equipment manufacturers with the objective of establishing stewardship programs across the country for managing the end-of-life phase of various electronic products.

SWEEP is the first industry-led electronic end-of-life management program in Canada, and it certainly won?t be the last, according to David Betts, EPSC president and CEO, and SWEEP executive director.

British Columbia is also expected to implement its own electronic product management regulation in June, Betts said. ?Pretty much all of the provinces right now are thinking about [e-waste management].

?Most provinces like Manitoba, Nova Scotia, Ontario and Quebec, are all in various stages of assessing the situation and we anticipate that in the next few years, pretty much all the provinces will have come forward with regulations,? he said.

Under Saskatchewan?s Waste Electronic Equipment Regulation, sellers of desktop and notebook computers, printers, televisions or their associated components are required to be part of a product management program approved by the provincial government. The regulation aims to address the issue of e-waste management and ensure that obsolete electronic products are recycled or disposed of in an environmentally responsible manner.

As the product management program approved by the Saskatchewan government, SWEEP has partnered with SARCAN Recycling, a network of 70 recycling depots across the province, for responsible recycling or dismantling of obsolete electronics such as CPUs, keyboards, computer monitors, laptops and printers.

Saskatchewan consumers and businesses can drop off their obsolete electronic equipment at any SARCAN depot for recycling, free of charge. The province?s environmental handling fee (EHF), which is added to the cost of certain new electronic products at the point of purchase, funds the cost of operating SWEEP, Betts said.

EPSC has been pushing for the establishment of stewardship programs for ecologically responsible production, recycling and dismantling of electronics in an effort to reduce or eliminate toxic e-waste that often ends up in landfills or dumped in poor countries that have neither the resource nor the technology to safely recycle these materials.

?What you are seeing around the world is a push toward extending the (product) business cycle to account for the material when it becomes obsolete and is disposed of, so it doesn?t end up in third-world countries and doesn?t end up in landfills,? explained Betts.

Seattle-based environmental lobby group Basel Action Network (BAN) believes Microsoft?s recently launched Vista operating system will likely trigger a ?tsunami of e-waste? as businesses and consumers dispose of their existing PCs to make way for newer systems that can run the new OS.

?BAN is concerned that Microsoft has done little to prevent or mitigate the massive hardware obsolescence that is likely to be caused by the release of its latest operating system,? read a recent statement issued by BAN. BAN is actively pushing for the global prohibition of toxic e-waste dumping to developing countries.

A study by Softchoice Corp. revealed that 50 per cent of desktops in North American firms do not meet the minimum requirements to run Vista. When it comes to running Vista?s premium hardware requirements, 94 per cent of these desktops don?t measure up.

?It?s shameful how little innovation and concern the electronics industry continues to demonstrate for the long-term consequences of their products in light of their abilities to innovate front-end gadgetry to encourage sales,? said Jim Puckett, coordinator for BAN.

Microsoft was unavailable for comment.

Hardware vendors are also anticipating a surge of discarded computers as customers line up to buy new Vista-compatible PCs. PC makers Dell Inc. and Hewlett-Packard Co. (HP) both have established computer reuse and recycling programs, that let businesses and consumers turn in obsolete computers for proper end-of-life management.

?As enterprises deploy Vista, they may increase their rate of replacing, refreshing or updating PCs, and we?re certainly happy to work with our customers on the disposition of machines they take out of service,? said Michael Cuno, an HP spokesperson.

Dell said it was too early to tell if Vista adoptions would be fast enough to drive a surge in PC recycling, but the company did say it had recorded an increase from 22.7 million pounds of equipment collected from customers in 2004 to 39 million in 2005. The challenge in predicting future rates is that individuals don?t always dispose of their old hardware immediately, said Dell spokesman Bryant Hilton.

With files from IDG News Service



From skisby at web.net  Sun Mar 18 19:31:20 2007
From: skisby at web.net (Steve Kisby)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:31:20 -0800
Subject: [FreeGeek] Technotrash and CRS
In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20070204140941.01ed5658@shawmail.vc.shawcable.ne t>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20070318183120.010e82b0@shawmail.vc.shawcable.net>

Hi All,

Technotrash had a well stocked and busy booth at the Sustainable Living Expo (http://www.epicvancouver.com) this weekend at the Vancouver Convention & Exhibition Centre.

I'm not sure if this is new to anyone or not, but as part of Technotrash's booth was a big "Computer Recycling Society -- A Non-Profit Society dedicated to promoting Computer Literacy" sign and they were handing out CRS brochures. CRS (a society) is apparently an "arms length organization" from Technotrash Recycling (a company) with Rober Hazel (who was at the booth) as booth a principle in Technotrash and a director of CRS.

Websites:
http://www.technotrashrecycling.com
http://www.computerrecyclingsociety.org

Steve

At 14:11 04/02/07 -0800, Terry Lowe wrote:
>(Hope I got everyone's name right...)
>
>Free Geek General Meeting 4.0
>Feb 3, 2007, 1 - 3 PM
>Spartacus Books
<snip>

>1) Initial meeting with Techno Trash in Port Coquitlam. FG delegation was 
>well-received, and Techno Trash is interested in having FG as an additional 
>revenue source, and as a drop-off point for items destined to Techno Trash. 
>FG, in turn, was impressed with Techno Trash's methods and motivations. 
>Future meeting TBA.
<snip>



From alec at smecher.bc.ca  Mon Mar 19 17:02:30 2007
From: alec at smecher.bc.ca (Alec Smecher)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:02:30 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Technotrash and CRS
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20070318183120.010e82b0@shawmail.vc.shawcable.net>
References: <3.0.3.32.20070318183120.010e82b0@shawmail.vc.shawcable.net>
Message-ID: <45FF2496.4030401@smecher.bc.ca>

Hi all,

I will lurk no longer --

One of part of Technotrash's mandate that I'm not sure is a good thing 
-- shipping old computers to Africa. It's a warm fuzzy idea but I'm not 
sure if it's justifiable. Countries like Ghana have enough trouble 
keeping the lights lit, never mind powering and maintaining mismatched 
and end-of-lifespan hardware. Also, when I was there, I saw a lot of new 
branded equipment e.g. Dell computer labs. Recycling aside, this 
probably makes more sense for their situation. If we're talking about 
aid, I have a suspicion that Technotrash's shipping costs might be 
better put to some other use, but I'd love to be corrected on that point.

Plus, once the hardware is in Africa, the possibility of clean disposal 
pretty much goes out the window.

Anyone know more about this than me? I wonder, in a year's time, where 
these computers end up, and how many saw their intended use.

Alec

Steve Kisby wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Technotrash had a well stocked and busy booth at the Sustainable Living Expo (http://www.epicvancouver.com) this weekend at the Vancouver Convention & Exhibition Centre.
>
> I'm not sure if this is new to anyone or not, but as part of Technotrash's booth was a big "Computer Recycling Society -- A Non-Profit Society dedicated to promoting Computer Literacy" sign and they were handing out CRS brochures. CRS (a society) is apparently an "arms length organization" from Technotrash Recycling (a company) with Rober Hazel (who was at the booth) as booth a principle in Technotrash and a director of CRS.
>
> Websites:
> http://www.technotrashrecycling.com
> http://www.computerrecyclingsociety.org
>
> Steve
>
> At 14:11 04/02/07 -0800, Terry Lowe wrote:
>   
>> (Hope I got everyone's name right...)
>>
>> Free Geek General Meeting 4.0
>> Feb 3, 2007, 1 - 3 PM
>> Spartacus Books
>>     
> <snip>
>
>   
>> 1) Initial meeting with Techno Trash in Port Coquitlam. FG delegation was 
>> well-received, and Techno Trash is interested in having FG as an additional 
>> revenue source, and as a drop-off point for items destined to Techno Trash. 
>> FG, in turn, was impressed with Techno Trash's methods and motivations. 
>> Future meeting TBA.
>>     
> <snip>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>   



From iamlachance at gmail.com  Mon Mar 19 17:18:36 2007
From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:18:36 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Technotrash and CRS
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20070318183120.010e82b0@shawmail.vc.shawcable.net>
References: <3.0.3.32.20070318183120.010e82b0@shawmail.vc.shawcable.net>
Message-ID: <3d895eaf0703191718vb8c7bd8xb9e5a64ccefa2120@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Steve, thanks for the info. In chat, Joe also mentioned seeing
them (he attended as well).

The CRS started in Alberta about 6 years ago; they primarily send
stuff to Africa.

As you see, we did a field trip out to the Technotrash facility & met
with Robert & Peter. In our subsequent negotiations, Robert made it
clear that they would be unable to adhere to full transparency;
namely, they couldn't tell us who their end-of-life vendors were.

Therefore, since we wouldn't have the ability to verify
environmentally responsible practices, nor would we be able to be
fully transparent ourselves were we to use their services, we're not
pursuing negotiations with them at this time.

~ifny



On 3/18/07, Steve Kisby <skisby at web.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Technotrash had a well stocked and busy booth at the Sustainable Living Expo (http://www.epicvancouver.com) this weekend at the Vancouver Convention & Exhibition Centre.
>
> I'm not sure if this is new to anyone or not, but as part of Technotrash's booth was a big "Computer Recycling Society -- A Non-Profit Society dedicated to promoting Computer Literacy" sign and they were handing out CRS brochures. CRS (a society) is apparently an "arms length organization" from Technotrash Recycling (a company) with Rober Hazel (who was at the booth) as booth a principle in Technotrash and a director of CRS.
>
> Websites:
> http://www.technotrashrecycling.com
> http://www.computerrecyclingsociety.org
>
> Steve
>
> At 14:11 04/02/07 -0800, Terry Lowe wrote:
> >(Hope I got everyone's name right...)
> >
> >Free Geek General Meeting 4.0
> >Feb 3, 2007, 1 - 3 PM
> >Spartacus Books
> <snip>
>
> >1) Initial meeting with Techno Trash in Port Coquitlam. FG delegation was
> >well-received, and Techno Trash is interested in having FG as an additional
> >revenue source, and as a drop-off point for items destined to Techno Trash.
> >FG, in turn, was impressed with Techno Trash's methods and motivations.
> >Future meeting TBA.
> <snip>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>


From bowserj at uselessdegree.net  Tue Mar 20 08:05:40 2007
From: bowserj at uselessdegree.net (Joe Bowser)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:05:40 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Ugh, Massive
Message-ID: <1174403140.4884.8.camel@bowserj-desktop>

Hey

I guess if we're going to go to all sorts of trade shows and stuff,
someone should go to Massive.

http://www.massivetechshow.com/

Massive is one of those trendy trade shows along the same lines as
TechVibes used to be.  A lot of trendy people show up and go to the
Trade Show and Conference.  I personally hate these things (they make me
hurl), however someone (not me) Free Geek may want to go and talk to
these people, since they have money.

I'm sure other people have mentioned this thing.  I find it interesting
that the Trade Show is now free, although the social thing is $20 now.

-- 
Joe Bowser <bowserj at uselessdegree.net>



From iamlachance at gmail.com  Wed Mar 21 14:10:34 2007
From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:10:34 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Windowless Wednesday -- tonight
Message-ID: <3d895eaf0703211410m26e857ay4a96b35dde6f7120@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all, just a last-minute reminder that Windowless Wednesday is
tonight. Wet weather? Tough as leather!

It'll be Sean Hill's debut as an Open Office guru. Go Sean!

Looks like we've got the set-up under control at the S.P.E.C. building
(Maple & 6th)

If you'd like to come down & participate in other ways (learning,
helping, hanging out), the doors will be open around 6ish. Sean's
presentation will start at 7, & the Linux Clinic will start at around
8.

If you have a laptop, & don't mind folks using it to demo Open Office
during the Linux Clinic, then you could bring it. Free Geekers will be
around helping & making sure nobody's eating spaghetti with their
hands while using your computer ;)

Windowsless Wednesday's entry on the Free Geek website:

http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/48

Questions? Call 604-690-7372.

~ifny

P.S. Don't forget about the geeky movie night coming up Wed. March 28.
More info at http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/49


From iamlachance at gmail.com  Fri Mar 23 15:28:27 2007
From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:28:27 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,
	stop yer grinnin & drop yer linen!
Message-ID: <4604548B.3020001@gmail.com>

We've scored a booth at the 2007 Massive Tech Show! The only catch is 
that we have to outfit an 8 x 10 trade show booth & have it look 
professional...for this coming Wednesday!!!!!! (breathe, ifny, breathe)

The Basel Action Network is Fed-exing us some materials. We're trying to 
get a banner made of the FG logo to hang. We'll be printing brochures 
etc etc.

If you want to help us set the booth up, that will happen on Tues the 
27th from 2-9. We'll need help tearing down on Wed.

Also if anyone has access to fancy-pants tradeshow display equipment, 
please call us a.s.a.p.alicious! 604-690-7372. Our booth will be 8' x 
10' & the back wall is curtain; we'll also have one table to put 
materials on. Think portable walls, science project zigzag display stand 
things...


If you want to attend, you can get a free ticket by going here:

http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/56


more info on the show:

http://www.massivetechshow.com/

~ifny


From iamlachance at gmail.com  Sat Mar 24 03:15:36 2007
From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:15:36 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] [Fwd: FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,
 stop yer grinnin & drop yer linen!]
Message-ID: <4604FA48.8010703@gmail.com>

Big thanks to Rusty for being the first to bring up the Massive show at 
the last General Meeting! There will be more thanks going out after the 
dust settles; there are people working very hard in solidarity with Free 
Geek.

Update: the banner is being hand-crafted, we're being donated a small 
rainforest to dress the booth, photos are being printed, dvds & stickers 
are on their way from Portland.

Methinks this thread should go to the Communications mailing list now.

If anyone would like to volunteer to help with set up at the Convention 
Centre on Tuesday, please email me or call David 604-690-9065. We are 
allowed in there between 2-9pm, though we haven't decided exactly what 
time we'll go in. It won't take 7 hours, don't worry!

Good luck to David & Sean tomorrow at Sista'hood! 
http://www.sistahoodcelebration.com/index.php#_8

Good luck to me & Rev Phil from Portland on Sunday 
http://bicyclecarcass.blogspot.com

Good luck to Spring sunshine!


~Ifny







-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed, stop yer grinnin & drop yer 
linen!
Date: 	Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:28:27 -0700
From: 	ifny <iamlachance at gmail.com>
To: 	FreeGeek Vancouver discussion <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>



We've scored a booth at the 2007 Massive Tech Show! The only catch is 
that we have to outfit an 8 x 10 trade show booth & have it look 
professional...for this coming Wednesday!!!!!! (breathe, ifny, breathe)

The Basel Action Network is Fed-exing us some materials. We're trying to 
get a banner made of the FG logo to hang. We'll be printing brochures 
etc etc.

If you want to help us set the booth up, that will happen on Tues the 
27th from 2-9. We'll need help tearing down on Wed.

Also if anyone has access to fancy-pants tradeshow display equipment, 
please call us a.s.a.p.alicious! 604-690-7372. Our booth will be 8' x 
10' & the back wall is curtain; we'll also have one table to put 
materials on. Think portable walls, science project zigzag display stand 
things...


If you want to attend, you can get a free ticket by going here:

http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/56


more info on the show:

http://www.massivetechshow.com/

~ifny




From unixd0od at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 24 03:22:55 2007
From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (unixd0od at hotmail.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:22:55 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] [Fwd: FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,
	stop yer grinnin & drop yer linen!]
References: <4604FA48.8010703@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV123CF5D8F173E9A097F91F9A690@phx.gbl>

I've got a commitment Tuesday AM but I'm pretty sure it will be concluded in 
time to help you guys out with setting up.

What time and where should I meet up with people?

Joe,

----- Original Message -----
From: "ifny" <iamlachance at gmail.com>
To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 03:15
Subject: [FreeGeek] [Fwd: FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed, stop yer grinnin 
& drop yer linen!]

> Big thanks to Rusty for being the first to bring up the Massive show at 
> the last General Meeting! There will be more thanks going out after the 
> dust settles; there are people working very hard in solidarity with Free 
> Geek.
>
> Update: the banner is being hand-crafted, we're being donated a small 
> rainforest to dress the booth, photos are being printed, dvds & stickers 
> are on their way from Portland.
>
> Methinks this thread should go to the Communications mailing list now.
>
> If anyone would like to volunteer to help with set up at the Convention 
> Centre on Tuesday, please email me or call David 604-690-9065. We are 
> allowed in there between 2-9pm, though we haven't decided exactly what 
> time we'll go in. It won't take 7 hours, don't worry!
>
> Good luck to David & Sean tomorrow at Sista'hood! 
> http://www.sistahoodcelebration.com/index.php#_8
>
> Good luck to me & Rev Phil from Portland on Sunday 
> http://bicyclecarcass.blogspot.com
>
> Good luck to Spring sunshine!
>
>
> ~Ifny
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed, stop yer grinnin & drop yer 
> linen!
> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:28:27 -0700
> From: ifny <iamlachance at gmail.com>
> To: FreeGeek Vancouver discussion <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
>
>
>
> We've scored a booth at the 2007 Massive Tech Show! The only catch is that 
> we have to outfit an 8 x 10 trade show booth & have it look 
> professional...for this coming Wednesday!!!!!! (breathe, ifny, breathe)
>
> The Basel Action Network is Fed-exing us some materials. We're trying to 
> get a banner made of the FG logo to hang. We'll be printing brochures etc 
> etc.
>
> If you want to help us set the booth up, that will happen on Tues the 27th 
> from 2-9. We'll need help tearing down on Wed.
>
> Also if anyone has access to fancy-pants tradeshow display equipment, 
> please call us a.s.a.p.alicious! 604-690-7372. Our booth will be 8' x 10' 
> & the back wall is curtain; we'll also have one table to put materials on. 
> Think portable walls, science project zigzag display stand things...
>
>
> If you want to attend, you can get a free ticket by going here:
>
> http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/56
>
>
> more info on the show:
>
> http://www.massivetechshow.com/
>
> ~ifny
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> 


From unixd0od at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 24 03:38:16 2007
From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (unixd0od at hotmail.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:38:16 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,
	stop yer grinnin & drop yer linen!
References: <4604548B.3020001@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV1339C45B36E17403CE600B9A690@phx.gbl>

Has anyone tried to register with that referral code? The form still wants 
to charge me 30 clams...

Joe,

----- Original Message -----
From: "ifny" <iamlachance at gmail.com>
To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 15:28
Subject: [FreeGeek] FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,stop yer grinnin & drop 
yer linen!

> We've scored a booth at the 2007 Massive Tech Show! The only catch is that 
> we have to outfit an 8 x 10 trade show booth & have it look 
> professional...for this coming Wednesday!!!!!! (breathe, ifny, breathe)
>
> The Basel Action Network is Fed-exing us some materials. We're trying to 
> get a banner made of the FG logo to hang. We'll be printing brochures etc 
> etc.
>
> If you want to help us set the booth up, that will happen on Tues the 27th 
> from 2-9. We'll need help tearing down on Wed.
>
> Also if anyone has access to fancy-pants tradeshow display equipment, 
> please call us a.s.a.p.alicious! 604-690-7372. Our booth will be 8' x 10' 
> & the back wall is curtain; we'll also have one table to put materials on. 
> Think portable walls, science project zigzag display stand things...
>
>
> If you want to attend, you can get a free ticket by going here:
>
> http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/56
>
>
> more info on the show:
>
> http://www.massivetechshow.com/
>
> ~ifny
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> 


From iamlachance at gmail.com  Sat Mar 24 04:20:52 2007
From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:20:52 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,	stop yer grinnin
	& drop yer linen!
In-Reply-To: <BAY117-DAV1339C45B36E17403CE600B9A690@phx.gbl>
References: <4604548B.3020001@gmail.com>
	<BAY117-DAV1339C45B36E17403CE600B9A690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <46050994.8030603@gmail.com>

did you go all the way through to the end joe? i found that confusing 
too but if you follow it all the way, it shouldn't charge you.

~i

unixd0od at hotmail.com wrote:
> Has anyone tried to register with that referral code? The form still 
> wants to charge me 30 clams...
>
> Joe,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ifny" <iamlachance at gmail.com>
> To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 15:28
> Subject: [FreeGeek] FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,stop yer grinnin 
> & drop yer linen!
>
>> We've scored a booth at the 2007 Massive Tech Show! The only catch is 
>> that we have to outfit an 8 x 10 trade show booth & have it look 
>> professional...for this coming Wednesday!!!!!! (breathe, ifny, breathe)
>>
>> The Basel Action Network is Fed-exing us some materials. We're trying 
>> to get a banner made of the FG logo to hang. We'll be printing 
>> brochures etc etc.
>>
>> If you want to help us set the booth up, that will happen on Tues the 
>> 27th from 2-9. We'll need help tearing down on Wed.
>>
>> Also if anyone has access to fancy-pants tradeshow display equipment, 
>> please call us a.s.a.p.alicious! 604-690-7372. Our booth will be 8' x 
>> 10' & the back wall is curtain; we'll also have one table to put 
>> materials on. Think portable walls, science project zigzag display 
>> stand things...
>>
>>
>> If you want to attend, you can get a free ticket by going here:
>>
>> http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/56
>>
>>
>> more info on the show:
>>
>> http://www.massivetechshow.com/
>>
>> ~ifny
>> _______________________________________________
>> http://freegeekvancouver.org
>> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>>
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>



From iamlachance at gmail.com  Sat Mar 24 04:50:43 2007
From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:50:43 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Re: [Fwd: FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,
 stop yer grinnin & drop yer linen!]
In-Reply-To: <4604FA48.8010703@gmail.com>
References: <4604FA48.8010703@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46051093.3020205@gmail.com>

sorry, i gave the wrong phone number. that's 604-690-7372


ifny wrote:
> Big thanks to Rusty for being the first to bring up the Massive show 
> at the last General Meeting! There will be more thanks going out after 
> the dust settles; there are people working very hard in solidarity 
> with Free Geek.
>
> Update: the banner is being hand-crafted, we're being donated a small 
> rainforest to dress the booth, photos are being printed, dvds & 
> stickers are on their way from Portland.
>
> Methinks this thread should go to the Communications mailing list now.
>
> If anyone would like to volunteer to help with set up at the 
> Convention Centre on Tuesday, please email me or call David 
> 604-690-9065. We are allowed in there between 2-9pm, though we haven't 
> decided exactly what time we'll go in. It won't take 7 hours, don't 
> worry!
>
> Good luck to David & Sean tomorrow at Sista'hood! 
> http://www.sistahoodcelebration.com/index.php#_8
>
> Good luck to me & Rev Phil from Portland on Sunday 
> http://bicyclecarcass.blogspot.com
>
> Good luck to Spring sunshine!
>
>
> ~Ifny
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:     FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed, stop yer grinnin & drop 
> yer linen!
> Date:     Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:28:27 -0700
> From:     ifny <iamlachance at gmail.com>
> To:     FreeGeek Vancouver discussion <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
>
>
>
> We've scored a booth at the 2007 Massive Tech Show! The only catch is 
> that we have to outfit an 8 x 10 trade show booth & have it look 
> professional...for this coming Wednesday!!!!!! (breathe, ifny, breathe)
>
> The Basel Action Network is Fed-exing us some materials. We're trying 
> to get a banner made of the FG logo to hang. We'll be printing 
> brochures etc etc.
>
> If you want to help us set the booth up, that will happen on Tues the 
> 27th from 2-9. We'll need help tearing down on Wed.
>
> Also if anyone has access to fancy-pants tradeshow display equipment, 
> please call us a.s.a.p.alicious! 604-690-7372. Our booth will be 8' x 
> 10' & the back wall is curtain; we'll also have one table to put 
> materials on. Think portable walls, science project zigzag display 
> stand things...
>
>
> If you want to attend, you can get a free ticket by going here:
>
> http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/56
>
>
> more info on the show:
>
> http://www.massivetechshow.com/
>
> ~ifny
>
>
>



From iamlachance at gmail.com  Sat Mar 24 09:39:40 2007
From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:39:40 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] [Fwd: FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,
	stop yer grinnin & drop yer linen!
In-Reply-To: <BAY117-DAV123CF5D8F173E9A097F91F9A690@phx.gbl>
References: <4604FA48.8010703@gmail.com>
	<BAY117-DAV123CF5D8F173E9A097F91F9A690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3d895eaf0703240939w1267034w52bcef3902717e42@mail.gmail.com>

that's great, thanks joe! nobody knows exactly yet. can you email me
your phone number? iamlachance [at] gmail [dot] com

~ifny



On 3/24/07, unixd0od at hotmail.com <unixd0od at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I've got a commitment Tuesday AM but I'm pretty sure it will be concluded in
> time to help you guys out with setting up.
>
> What time and where should I meet up with people?
>
> Joe,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ifny" <iamlachance at gmail.com>
> To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 03:15
> Subject: [FreeGeek] [Fwd: FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed, stop yer grinnin
> & drop yer linen!]
>
> > Big thanks to Rusty for being the first to bring up the Massive show at
> > the last General Meeting! There will be more thanks going out after the
> > dust settles; there are people working very hard in solidarity with Free
> > Geek.
> >
> > Update: the banner is being hand-crafted, we're being donated a small
> > rainforest to dress the booth, photos are being printed, dvds & stickers
> > are on their way from Portland.
> >
> > Methinks this thread should go to the Communications mailing list now.
> >
> > If anyone would like to volunteer to help with set up at the Convention
> > Centre on Tuesday, please email me or call David 604-690-9065. We are
> > allowed in there between 2-9pm, though we haven't decided exactly what
> > time we'll go in. It won't take 7 hours, don't worry!
> >
> > Good luck to David & Sean tomorrow at Sista'hood!
> > http://www.sistahoodcelebration.com/index.php#_8
> >
> > Good luck to me & Rev Phil from Portland on Sunday
> > http://bicyclecarcass.blogspot.com
> >
> > Good luck to Spring sunshine!
> >
> >
> > ~Ifny
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed, stop yer grinnin & drop yer
> > linen!
> > Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:28:27 -0700
> > From: ifny <iamlachance at gmail.com>
> > To: FreeGeek Vancouver discussion <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
> >
> >
> >
> > We've scored a booth at the 2007 Massive Tech Show! The only catch is that
> > we have to outfit an 8 x 10 trade show booth & have it look
> > professional...for this coming Wednesday!!!!!! (breathe, ifny, breathe)
> >
> > The Basel Action Network is Fed-exing us some materials. We're trying to
> > get a banner made of the FG logo to hang. We'll be printing brochures etc
> > etc.
> >
> > If you want to help us set the booth up, that will happen on Tues the 27th
> > from 2-9. We'll need help tearing down on Wed.
> >
> > Also if anyone has access to fancy-pants tradeshow display equipment,
> > please call us a.s.a.p.alicious! 604-690-7372. Our booth will be 8' x 10'
> > & the back wall is curtain; we'll also have one table to put materials on.
> > Think portable walls, science project zigzag display stand things...
> >
> >
> > If you want to attend, you can get a free ticket by going here:
> >
> > http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/56
> >
> >
> > more info on the show:
> >
> > http://www.massivetechshow.com/
> >
> > ~ifny
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://freegeekvancouver.org
> > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> >
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>


From fenris at fenris.ca  Sat Mar 24 13:08:12 2007
From: fenris at fenris.ca (Marc)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:08:12 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,
	stop yer grinnin & drop yer linen!
In-Reply-To: <4604548B.3020001@gmail.com>
References: <4604548B.3020001@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <550C6386-E5F1-4192-9A46-FE013140FD4E@fenris.ca>

Is a projector needed by any chance?

Marc

On 23-Mar-07, at 3:28 PM, ifny wrote:

> We've scored a booth at the 2007 Massive Tech Show! The only catch  
> is that we have to outfit an 8 x 10 trade show booth & have it look  
> professional...for this coming Wednesday!!!!!! (breathe, ifny,  
> breathe)
>
> The Basel Action Network is Fed-exing us some materials. We're  
> trying to get a banner made of the FG logo to hang. We'll be  
> printing brochures etc etc.
>
> If you want to help us set the booth up, that will happen on Tues  
> the 27th from 2-9. We'll need help tearing down on Wed.
>
> Also if anyone has access to fancy-pants tradeshow display  
> equipment, please call us a.s.a.p.alicious! 604-690-7372. Our booth  
> will be 8' x 10' & the back wall is curtain; we'll also have one  
> table to put materials on. Think portable walls, science project  
> zigzag display stand things...
>
>
> If you want to attend, you can get a free ticket by going here:
>
> http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/56
>
>
> more info on the show:
>
> http://www.massivetechshow.com/
>
> ~ifny
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd  
> millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van



From unixd0od at hotmail.com  Sun Mar 25 02:14:51 2007
From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (unixd0od at hotmail.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:14:51 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,
	stop yer grinnin& drop yer linen!
References: <4604548B.3020001@gmail.com><BAY117-DAV1339C45B36E17403CE600B9A690@phx.gbl>
	<46050994.8030603@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY117-DAV12579E01FEDF9D8838B0439A680@phx.gbl>

Did you enter a credit card number? At the end it asks me for one and showed 
me a price, so I was hesitant to proceed further.

Joe,

----- Original Message -----
From: "ifny" <iamlachance at gmail.com>
To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 04:20
Subject: Re: [FreeGeek] FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,	stop yer grinnin& 
drop yer linen!

> did you go all the way through to the end joe? i found that confusing too 
> but if you follow it all the way, it shouldn't charge you.
>
> ~i
>
> unixd0od at hotmail.com wrote:
>> Has anyone tried to register with that referral code? The form still 
>> wants to charge me 30 clams...
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ifny" <iamlachance at gmail.com>
>> To: "FreeGeek Vancouver discussion" <freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 15:28
>> Subject: [FreeGeek] FG at Massive Tech Show this Wed,stop yer grinnin & 
>> drop yer linen!
>>
>>> We've scored a booth at the 2007 Massive Tech Show! The only catch is 
>>> that we have to outfit an 8 x 10 trade show booth & have it look 
>>> professional...for this coming Wednesday!!!!!! (breathe, ifny, breathe)
>>>
>>> The Basel Action Network is Fed-exing us some materials. We're trying to 
>>> get a banner made of the FG logo to hang. We'll be printing brochures 
>>> etc etc.
>>>
>>> If you want to help us set the booth up, that will happen on Tues the 
>>> 27th from 2-9. We'll need help tearing down on Wed.
>>>
>>> Also if anyone has access to fancy-pants tradeshow display equipment, 
>>> please call us a.s.a.p.alicious! 604-690-7372. Our booth will be 8' x 
>>> 10' & the back wall is curtain; we'll also have one table to put 
>>> materials on. Think portable walls, science project zigzag display stand 
>>> things...
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want to attend, you can get a free ticket by going here:
>>>
>>> http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/56
>>>
>>>
>>> more info on the show:
>>>
>>> http://www.massivetechshow.com/
>>>
>>> ~ifny
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> http://freegeekvancouver.org
>>> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
>>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> http://freegeekvancouver.org
>> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
>> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> 


From humble at resist.ca  Mon Mar 26 18:25:16 2007
From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:25:16 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Techworld: Linux makes for greener computing
Message-ID: <200703261825.17237.humble@resist.ca>

Linux makes for greener computing
By Manek Dubash, Techworld


The UK Government reckons that servers with Linux installed are greener than 
those running Windows.

That's because, according to a report by the Department of Government Commerce 
about Open Source Software Trials in Government, open source software has 
lower hardware requirements and needs less frequent hardware refreshes.

In particular, it said that: "for equivalent open source and Microsoft Windows 
systems, the open source system will require less memory and a slower 
processor speed for the same functionality." It points out that Windows needs 
a hardware refresh every three to four years, while a Linux box might need a 
new platform as infrequently as every six to eight years - half as often.

The report continued: "Open Source operating systems such as Linux do not 
usually have the regular major upgrades that are a feature of Windows, and 
thus do not have the requirement that goes with these upgrades for a new or 
upgraded computer to run them."

The report then concludes that the reduction in hardware demands brings 
environmental benefits, because it translates into lower energy requirements 
and less waste, "reducing landfill requirements and costs arising from 
disposal of redundant equipment."

The report also coincides with Tory shadow chancellor George Osbourne's call 
for the use of more open source software in government. He said that the UK 
government could save in excess of ?600 million a year if more open source 
software was deployed across various departments.

But if the timing of the report is good news for the open source community, 
it's possibly less welcome for others.

Microsoft Windows Vista has just been released to a flurry of criticism from 
environmental groups such as Greenpeace who slammed Microsoft for the 
hardware-hungriness of Vista, saying that upgraders will "will trigger a 
deluge of e-waste in developing countries.?

Beau Baconguis, Greenpeace's southeast Asia toxics campaigner, argued 
that: "With Vista, Microsoft could effectively hasten the obsolescence of 
half the world?s PCs, especially in the absence of fully-functioning global 
take back systems for PCs. Companies will feel the need to upgrade more 
computers sooner - and when they do, the world is unfortunately not prepared 
for the massive e-waste the upgrades will generate."

Greenpeace went on to argue that Microsoft should have considered this when 
producing its new OS.

It's a problem for which a solution will need to be found eventually. While 
most enterprises have few if any plans right now to move their desktops onto 
the new OS, most will eventually be forced to migrate as Microsoft starts to 
implement its phased withdrawal of support for Windows XP under its public 
life-cycle policy.

This is some way off, although the company has announced that the availability 
of licences for Windows XP Professional would be withdrawn for OEMs after 28 
January 2008, and for system builders a year later. Mainstream support for XP 
Pro ends on 14 April 2009 while extended support - in other words, paid-for 
support - ends five years later.

Before that happens, Vista - or maybe even its more hardware-hungry 
successor - will have become the only commercial OS choice.


From sean at seanhill.ca  Mon Mar 26 19:47:42 2007
From: sean at seanhill.ca (sean hill)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:47:42 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] CBC article: Adopting Ubuntu
Message-ID: <460885CE.3050103@seanhill.ca>

cbc has an article in their tech section on moving to linux,
specifically using ubuntu to show how the average user can make the leap
with little difficulty.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/tech/linux.html

sean h  :o)


From iamturnip at gmail.com  Mon Mar 26 23:05:16 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:05:16 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Movie Night help
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703262305g5b564d43tfe5babae8df15686@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone!!

We need some help with our Movie Night this Wednesday(March 28).  As
you all know we have a very big show to do during that day.  Ifny will
probably be able to get the night rolling but we still need

- 1 or 2 people o get there early and do setup
- 1 or 2 people to help MC
- get reminders out to various lists(ie. VANlug, TRANS-action)
- air popper operator (no license required)
- ushers(just kidding)

Invite your friends, family and complete strangers.

If people want to do things please reply to this email so everyone
knows what positions are being filled, especially the help for MC'ing,
and setup.

-- 
David
604-690-7372


From humble at resist.ca  Tue Mar 27 00:33:13 2007
From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:33:13 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Movie Night help
In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0703262305g5b564d43tfe5babae8df15686@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c0eafaa0703262305g5b564d43tfe5babae8df15686@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200703270033.14058.humble@resist.ca>

I can help out MCing this. I will also do some promotion.

BTW, I spent the weekend at the Birken Forest Monastery (birken.ca, soon to be 
Drupal ;-) with Dustin  -- who wrote the original article in Momentum, along 
with Sean H. -- and he was very excited to hear of all our progress. He 
donated some money and some gear to us.

Have fun at Massive!

~s

On March 26, 2007 11:05:16 pm David Repa wrote:
> Hello Everyone!!
>
> We need some help with our Movie Night this Wednesday(March 28).  As
> you all know we have a very big show to do during that day.  Ifny will
> probably be able to get the night rolling but we still need
>
> - 1 or 2 people o get there early and do setup
> - 1 or 2 people to help MC
> - get reminders out to various lists(ie. VANlug, TRANS-action)
> - air popper operator (no license required)
> - ushers(just kidding)
>
> Invite your friends, family and complete strangers.
>
> If people want to do things please reply to this email so everyone
> knows what positions are being filled, especially the help for MC'ing,
> and setup.




From bowserj at uselessdegree.net  Thu Mar 29 07:04:47 2007
From: bowserj at uselessdegree.net (Joe Bowser)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:04:47 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Popcorn Maker
Message-ID: <1175177087.16005.2.camel@bowserj-desktop>

Hey

Can someone pick up the popcorn maker at Spartacus Books today?  We
accidentally left it behind last night at the movie night, since we
didn't use it.

Thanks


-- 
Joe Bowser <bowserj at uselessdegree.net>



From simon at sheff2van.ca  Thu Mar 29 10:56:07 2007
From: simon at sheff2van.ca (Simon Pavitt)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:56:07 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Massive
In-Reply-To: <1175177087.16005.2.camel@bowserj-desktop>
References: <1175177087.16005.2.camel@bowserj-desktop>
Message-ID: <460BFDB7.8090800@sheff2van.ca>

Hi Freegeekers

If you didn't attend the Massive tech show yesterday then I just wanted 
to say it was great to find the community sector represented amongst all 
the commercial/corporate organisations.

Although the FreeGeek stand was a bit tucked away in a corner of the 
exhibition hall there seemed to be a steady stream of people wanting to 
find out more.

Thanks Ifny et al

Simon

========================================
  simon pavitt
  www.headware.co.uk
 
  it's not hardware, it's not software, it's headware
========================================



From humble at resist.ca  Thu Mar 29 16:52:27 2007
From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:52:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [FreeGeek] Popcorn Maker
In-Reply-To: <1175177087.16005.2.camel@bowserj-desktop>
References: <1175177087.16005.2.camel@bowserj-desktop>
Message-ID: <50720.64.180.182.82.1175212347.squirrel@mail.resist.ca>

Hi Joe,

I brought that from the Green Party office (#301 in the Dominion). I will
pick it up again when I'm in there again tomorrow.

~s

> Hey
>
> Can someone pick up the popcorn maker at Spartacus Books today?  We
> accidentally left it behind last night at the movie night, since we
> didn't use it.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
> Joe Bowser <bowserj at uselessdegree.net>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>


-- 
"Revolution in society must begin with the inner, psychological
transformation of the individual." ~~ Krishnamurti, The Problems of Living

-- 
"Revolution in society must begin with the inner, psychological
transformation of the individual." ~~ Krishnamurti, The Problems of Living



From archangel at nibble.bz  Fri Mar 30 09:47:14 2007
From: archangel at nibble.bz (Dominic Lepiane)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:47:14 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Intro: Dom
Message-ID: <200703300947.14360.archangel@nibble.bz>

Hi,

I just found out about the FreeGeek group, somehow stumbled on it.  Anyhow, 
I'm pretty interested in seeing computers recycled since I've piled more then 
my share in the dumps *ouch*.  I am a systems/network administrator, 
primarily with RedHat and OS X with about 5 years experience.  I am currently 
working at The IRMACS Centre at SFU.  Free time isn't exactly my speciality 
so I'm just exploring how I might be able to help.  I like helping getting 
things working so I may be able to give a hand with the Linux Clinic once in 
a while.

By the way, I got a little confused looking at the available mailing lists for 
FreeGeek, is there just one "General" list, and is this it?  There was some 
mention of a new "General" list or some such under the freegeekvancouver.net 
domain...  Anyhow, I hope I'm in the right place.

-- 
Dominic Lepiane

"When I read of the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."
- Henry Youngman

 .o.
 ..o
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From iamturnip at gmail.com  Fri Mar 30 10:46:37 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:46:37 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Linux.com article
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703301046s3c7702fax3572e83c0fe6f83b@mail.gmail.com>

Well folks,

We made it to linux.com check it out

http://community.linux.com/community/07/03/23/2042200.shtml?tid=19

-- 
David
604-690-7372


From scott at sugar-lab.com  Fri Mar 30 11:39:06 2007
From: scott at sugar-lab.com (Scott Nelson)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:39:06 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Linux.com article
In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0703301046s3c7702fax3572e83c0fe6f83b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c0eafaa0703301046s3c7702fax3572e83c0fe6f83b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200703301139.06341.scott@sugar-lab.com>

Wicked! Great work. I forwarded that to the VCN Board. 

Scott

On March 30, 2007 10:46:37 am David Repa wrote:
> Well folks,
>
> We made it to linux.com check it out
>
> http://community.linux.com/community/07/03/23/2042200.shtml?tid=19




From sean.brookes at contentsolutions.ca  Fri Mar 30 11:38:15 2007
From: sean.brookes at contentsolutions.ca (Sean Brookes)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:38:15 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Linux.com article
In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0703301046s3c7702fax3572e83c0fe6f83b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c0eafaa0703301046s3c7702fax3572e83c0fe6f83b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <460D5917.5030006@contentsolutions.ca>

Nice work.  That's a great article.

Sean


David Repa wrote:
> Well folks,
>
> We made it to linux.com check it out
>
> http://community.linux.com/community/07/03/23/2042200.shtml?tid=19
>



From humble at resist.ca  Fri Mar 30 11:58:07 2007
From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:58:07 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Fwd: Re: [board-list] FreeGeek article on Linux.com
	(links to VCN)
Message-ID: <200703301158.08109.humble@resist.ca>

(Here's a response from Jim Sayre, the chair of VCN, to the FG article... - 
Scott)


One of the long-range, "big picture" ideas that our board might consider 
would be a strategic alliance with freegeek and perhaps other local 
non-profit groups working in the same area.  We have space at 411, a 
charitable tax number, and a ton of expertise and community 
connections.  Freegeek has a lot of energy, and could potentially 
complement our work by getting computers into the hands of people who 
can't afford new ones, running courses on using linux, and so on.  If 
VCN needs to realign itself because CAP is being discontinued (despite 
yesterday's good news, there's no confirmation that there will be BC 
program, or a Vancouver program, or that VCN would get the "contract" if 
there is), continuing to go it alone may not be the best strategy. 

Jim


Scott Nelson wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Here's an article about Vancouver FreeGeek that was posted today on 
Linux.com. 
> It includes a link to the Vancouver Community Net.
>
> http://community.linux.com/community/07/03/23/2042200.shtml?tid=19
>
> cheers,
>
> Scott
>   

-- 

Please send or copy all email to jimsayre at telus.net.

--
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Per:  James Sayre
Suite 300, 1140 West Pender Street
Vancouver, B.C.  V6E 4G1
Tel: 604 685-3425 (68-LEGAL)
Fax: 604 685-7611
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From iamturnip at gmail.com  Fri Mar 30 20:02:15 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:02:15 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Intro: Dom
In-Reply-To: <200703300947.14360.archangel@nibble.bz>
References: <200703300947.14360.archangel@nibble.bz>
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703302002r3ba1965eld929f77453f5f235@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Dominic,

You are indeed in the right place.  Yes there is another general
mailing list, but it is un-used at the moment.  I'm happy to see you
post no here and I hope to see you at our next meeting on April 7th.

-- 
David
604-690-7372


From iamturnip at gmail.com  Fri Mar 30 20:06:12 2007
From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:06:12 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Massive
In-Reply-To: <460BFDB7.8090800@sheff2van.ca>
References: <1175177087.16005.2.camel@bowserj-desktop>
	<460BFDB7.8090800@sheff2van.ca>
Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0703302006i998018ewb5e7e11e780c1f2b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Simon,

I am glad you enjoyed the booth, and I couldn't agree more with your comments.

On 3/29/07, Simon Pavitt <simon at sheff2van.ca> wrote:
> Hi Freegeekers
>
> If you didn't attend the Massive tech show yesterday then I just wanted
> to say it was great to find the community sector represented amongst all
> the commercial/corporate organisations.
>
> Although the FreeGeek stand was a bit tucked away in a corner of the
> exhibition hall there seemed to be a steady stream of people wanting to
> find out more.
>
> Thanks Ifny et al
>

-- 
David
604-690-7372