From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org  Wed Aug  1 09:39:39 2007
From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (Ifny)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:39:39 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Free Geek on CBC at 7:15 am tomorrow (Wed)
In-Reply-To: <46AFF039.7020704@gmail.com>
References: <46AFF039.7020704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46B0B74B.1000901@freegeekvancouver.org>

The CBC Talk Back line is 604-662-6690 if you'd like to call in comments or 
a response to the segement. It was me & Malcolm Harvey (speaking for Encorp).

Don't worry if you missed the show, you could just make comments on what 
you think of the new provincial program.

~Ifny



ifny wrote:
> Hey, we're gonna be on the raydeeo again!
> 
> Tomorrow, 7:15 am we're gonna be on CBC; it should be a little spicy.
> 
> Can anyone record it? I believe it's 690AM, the show is the Early Edition.
> 
> http://www.cbc.ca/earlyedition/
> 
> WOo!
> 
> ~Ifny
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van


From misnomered at gmail.com  Wed Aug  1 12:59:31 2007
From: misnomered at gmail.com (Shabnam Shambayati)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:59:31 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Free Geek on CBC at 7:15 am tomorrow (Wed)
In-Reply-To: <46AFF039.7020704@gmail.com>
References: <46AFF039.7020704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4077f9520708011259m6dcf53b5v77a20fd4432ac08@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Ifny,

Let me know if you need any help setting up tomorrow.

Shabnam

On 7/31/07, ifny <iamlachance at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, we're gonna be on the raydeeo again!
>
> Tomorrow, 7:15 am we're gonna be on CBC; it should be a little spicy.
>
> Can anyone record it? I believe it's 690AM, the show is the Early Edition.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/earlyedition/
>
> WOo!
>
> ~Ifny
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
>


From bowserj at uselessdegree.net  Wed Aug  1 14:22:37 2007
From: bowserj at uselessdegree.net (Joe Bowser)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:22:37 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Need Volunteers for UTV Table - August 12, 2007,
 Cates Park, North	Vancouver
Message-ID: <1186003357.6211.5.camel@bowserj-laptop>

Hey

Well, the forms have been filled out and the cheque that I sent UTV has
been cashed yesterday, so now...

We need volunteers to help me with the table at Under The Volcano.  This
year, it's on August 12, 2007, at Cates Park in North Vancouver.

What we need:
- Someone to help get the display stuff up to North Vancouver.  I'm
guessing that this will be a lower-tech booth since it'll be sunny.  I'm
going to talk to someone about getting a battery/solar panel thingy from
the Renewable Energy Co-Op to power a FreekBox.
- People to relieve the volunteers

What you get for volunteering:
- A FREE bracelet which gets you into the festival for FREE!  (Admission
is $10-20 Sliding Scale).  I'd like to  be able to see what's happening
this year at UTV, so It'd be rad if someone could watch the table
- My gratitiude

So, if anyone wants to help me get the stuff to Cates Park on the 12th,
that'd be awesome.  Please let me know if you're interested.

Thanks

-- 
Joe Bowser <bowserj at uselessdegree.net>



From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org  Mon Aug  6 18:10:10 2007
From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (Ifny)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:10:10 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Reminder: Monthly Meeting tomorrow, Tuesday 6:30-8 pm
Message-ID: <46B7C672.3080708@freegeekvancouver.org>

Free Geek's Monthly Meeting will be held at this Tuesday, Aug. 7 from 
6:30-8pm. Everyone is welcome!

Also, this Wednesday will once again be our weekly Windowsless 
Wednesday/Linux Clinic from 6pm till 9ish. Bring your Linux concerns down & 
we can work on them together. Or, try Linux for the first time in our Linux 
lab!

Both events will be held at Free Geek, 117 East 2nd Ave (between Quebec and 
Main). Wheelchair/bicycle entrance in the back. More details on both events 
at http://freegeekvancouver.org


From janetroddan2002 at yahoo.ca  Wed Aug  8 14:47:14 2007
From: janetroddan2002 at yahoo.ca (Janet Roddan)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 17:47:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [FreeGeek] Need Volunteers for UTV Table - August 12, 2007,
	Cates Park, North Vancouver
In-Reply-To: <1186003357.6211.5.camel@bowserj-laptop>
Message-ID: <154421.56117.qm@web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

What's the festival all about???  I live in Pemberton but may come down if it's of interest...Janet



Joe Bowser <bowserj at uselessdegree.net> wrote: Hey

Well, the forms have been filled out and the cheque that I sent UTV has
been cashed yesterday, so now...

We need volunteers to help me with the table at Under The Volcano.  This
year, it's on August 12, 2007, at Cates Park in North Vancouver.

What we need:
- Someone to help get the display stuff up to North Vancouver.  I'm
guessing that this will be a lower-tech booth since it'll be sunny.  I'm
going to talk to someone about getting a battery/solar panel thingy from
the Renewable Energy Co-Op to power a FreekBox.
- People to relieve the volunteers

What you get for volunteering:
- A FREE bracelet which gets you into the festival for FREE!  (Admission
is $10-20 Sliding Scale).  I'd like to  be able to see what's happening
this year at UTV, so It'd be rad if someone could watch the table
- My gratitiude

So, if anyone wants to help me get the stuff to Cates Park on the 12th,
that'd be awesome.  Please let me know if you're interested.

Thanks

-- 
Joe Bowser 

_______________________________________________
http://freegeekvancouver.org
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From bowserj at uselessdegree.net  Thu Aug  9 12:15:45 2007
From: bowserj at uselessdegree.net (Joe Bowser)
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:15:45 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Need Volunteers for UTV Table - August 12, 2007,
	Cates Park, North Vancouver
In-Reply-To: <154421.56117.qm@web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <154421.56117.qm@web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1186686945.5986.5.camel@bowserj-laptop>

Hey

After asking around, I've managed to fill five of the six minimum spots
that we need for the festival.  We still need at least one more person
to volunteer for UTV.

More info on Under the Volcano Here:
http://volcano.resist.ca

I've talked to the Vancouver Renewable Energy Co-Op and we're going to
pick up a Power Pack to power the laptop for the day at our table.  I've
just got to work out the details as to how we're going to get everything
up to North Vancouver.  So if anyone wants to help volunteer with that,
that'd be greatly appreciated.

It should be a really fun time.  I'm going to e-mail the people that I
talked to shortly to confirm that they're still up for UTV this weekend.
If you've talked to me and I haven't e-mailed you about the event by the
end of the day, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE send me an e-mail so I don't
forget.

Also, if you want to volunteer, e-mail me ASAP so I know how many people
we have to man the table.  Hope to hear back from you soon.

Thanks

Joe

On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 17:47 -0400, Janet Roddan wrote:
> What's the festival all about???  I live in Pemberton but may come
> down if it's of interest...Janet
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Bowser <bowserj at uselessdegree.net> wrote:
>         Hey
>         
>         Well, the forms have been filled out and the cheque that I
>         sent UTV has
>         been cashed yesterday, so now...
>         
>         We need volunteers to help me with the table at Under The
>         Volcano. This
>         year, it's on August 12, 2007, at Cates Park in North
>         Vancouver.
>         
>         What we need:
>         - Someone to help get the display stuff up to North Vancouver.
>         I'm
>         guessing that this will be a lower-tech booth since it'll be
>         sunny. I'm
>         going to talk to someone about getting a battery/solar panel
>         thingy from
>         the Renewable Energy Co-Op to power a FreekBox.
>         - People to relieve the volunteers
>         
>         What you get for volunteering:
>         - A FREE bracelet which gets you into the festival for FREE!
>         (Admission
>         is $10-20 Sliding Scale). I'd like to be able to see what's
>         happening
>         this year at UTV, so It'd be rad if someone could watch the
>         table
>         - My gratitiude
>         
>         So, if anyone wants to help me get the stuff to Cates Park on
>         the 12th,
>         that'd be awesome. Please let me know if you're interested.
>         
>         Thanks
>         
>         -- 
>         Joe Bowser 
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         http://freegeekvancouver.org
>         'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd
>         millennium'
>         https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> All new Yahoo! Mail 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page.
> _______________________________________________
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From bowserj at uselessdegree.net  Thu Aug  9 13:04:23 2007
From: bowserj at uselessdegree.net (Joe Bowser)
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:04:23 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Need Volunteers for UTV Table - August 12, 2007,
	Cates Park, North Vancouver
In-Reply-To: <1186686945.5986.5.camel@bowserj-laptop>
References: <154421.56117.qm@web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<1186686945.5986.5.camel@bowserj-laptop>
Message-ID: <1186689863.5986.27.camel@bowserj-laptop>

Hey

I take the last thing back.  We need MORE people to do the table at the
Under the Volcano festival.  I know it's last minute, but if someone
would like to help out, that would be awesome.  As far as I know, we
have at least three bracelets up for grabs for people who are willing to
put in a Volunteer shift for the UTV festival.

Again, if anyone wants to help, please feel free to contact me.

Thanks

Joe

On Thu, 2007-09-08 at 12:15 -0700, Joe Bowser wrote:
> Hey
> 
> After asking around, I've managed to fill five of the six minimum spots
> that we need for the festival.  We still need at least one more person
> to volunteer for UTV.
> 
> More info on Under the Volcano Here:
> http://volcano.resist.ca
> 
> I've talked to the Vancouver Renewable Energy Co-Op and we're going to
> pick up a Power Pack to power the laptop for the day at our table.  I've
> just got to work out the details as to how we're going to get everything
> up to North Vancouver.  So if anyone wants to help volunteer with that,
> that'd be greatly appreciated.
> 
> It should be a really fun time.  I'm going to e-mail the people that I
> talked to shortly to confirm that they're still up for UTV this weekend.
> If you've talked to me and I haven't e-mailed you about the event by the
> end of the day, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE send me an e-mail so I don't
> forget.
> 
> Also, if you want to volunteer, e-mail me ASAP so I know how many people
> we have to man the table.  Hope to hear back from you soon.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 17:47 -0400, Janet Roddan wrote:
> > What's the festival all about???  I live in Pemberton but may come
> > down if it's of interest...Janet
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Joe Bowser <bowserj at uselessdegree.net> wrote:
> >         Hey
> >         
> >         Well, the forms have been filled out and the cheque that I
> >         sent UTV has
> >         been cashed yesterday, so now...
> >         
> >         We need volunteers to help me with the table at Under The
> >         Volcano. This
> >         year, it's on August 12, 2007, at Cates Park in North
> >         Vancouver.
> >         
> >         What we need:
> >         - Someone to help get the display stuff up to North Vancouver.
> >         I'm
> >         guessing that this will be a lower-tech booth since it'll be
> >         sunny. I'm
> >         going to talk to someone about getting a battery/solar panel
> >         thingy from
> >         the Renewable Energy Co-Op to power a FreekBox.
> >         - People to relieve the volunteers
> >         
> >         What you get for volunteering:
> >         - A FREE bracelet which gets you into the festival for FREE!
> >         (Admission
> >         is $10-20 Sliding Scale). I'd like to be able to see what's
> >         happening
> >         this year at UTV, so It'd be rad if someone could watch the
> >         table
> >         - My gratitiude
> >         
> >         So, if anyone wants to help me get the stuff to Cates Park on
> >         the 12th,
> >         that'd be awesome. Please let me know if you're interested.
> >         
> >         Thanks
> >         
> >         -- 
> >         Joe Bowser 
> >         
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         http://freegeekvancouver.org
> >         'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd
> >         millennium'
> >         https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > All new Yahoo! Mail 
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page.
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://freegeekvancouver.org
> > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van
> 
> _______________________________________________
> http://freegeekvancouver.org
> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium'
> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van



From simon at sheff2van.ca  Sat Aug 11 16:43:40 2007
From: simon at sheff2van.ca (Simon Pavitt)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:43:40 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Choose a Greener Computer
Message-ID: <46BE49AC.1080906@sheff2van.ca>

Hi geeks

Thought there might be FreeGeekers who would find this guide to choosing 
a greener computer useful which I'd not come across before.

FreeGeek's about extending the life of computers, but if you do have to 
get a new computer then the guide might help in choosing which model:
[www.epeat.net/search.aspx]

You can get an overall result (banded by Gold, Silver or Bronze), or if 
you click on 'optional criteria' you can make your own selection from 
the following:
- Reduction/elimination of environmentally sensitive materials
- Materials selection
- Design for end of life
- Product longevity/life cycle extension
- Energy conservation
- End of life management
- Corporate performance
- Packaging

You can even select by numerous sub-categories, from "Elimination of 
intentionally added cadmium" to "Documentation of reusable packaging".

Alternatively, you can look up your own model and see what material it's 
got in it....

----

Taken from [blog.techsoup.org/node/73]:

Are you harming vital organs while saving the world? It's possible if 
you are working on environmentally unfriendly computer equipment. 
Fortunately, a new online tool can help ensure that your next computer 
is less toxic for you and the environment.

The Electronic Product Environmental Assessment Tool (EPEAT), a project 
of the Environmental Protection Agency and the Green Electronics Council 
[www.greenelectronicscouncil.org] can help you evaluate the 
environmental friendliness of more than 500 models of computers.

The EPEAT Web site [www.epeat.net] offers easy-to-use search tools to 
allow you to see how your computer stacks up. You can see immediately 
how your machine is rated for categories including materials selection; 
design for end of life; and energy conservation.

In the meantime, what components should you watch out for when it comes 
time to upgrade? A recent article in Portland Monthly 
[www.portlandmonthlymag.com] magazine gets the scoop from GEC Director 
Jeff Omelchuck.

LEAD
Why it's bad: Can severely damage the brain and kidneys.
Where it's found: Solder on circuit boards, monitor glass in cathode-ray 
tube (CRT) displays.
How to avoid it: Opt for liquid crystal display (LCD) that doesn't use 
fluorescent lights.

MERCURY
Why it's bad: Can damage the brain, kidneys, and lungs.
Where it's found: Back lights that illuminate laptop and LCD monitors.
How to avoid it: Some new screens, such as Apple's MacBook Pro, use LED 
(light-emitting diode) technology, which is mercury-free.

CADMIUM
Why it's bad: Harms the lungs, irritates the stomach and may cause 
kidney disease.
Where it's found: Coating for internal steel parts.
How to avoid it: Find a bronze-rated EPEAT machine, which has no more 
than a tenth of a percent by weight of cadmium.

CHROMIUM VI
Why it's bad: Causes ulcers and holes in the nasal septum.
Where it's found: Corrosion-inhibiting coating for connectors and screws 
inside a computer.
How to avoid it: Any material used in a computer rated EPEAT bronze 
contains no more than a tenth of a percent by weight of chromiuim VI.

----

Thanks

Simon

========================================
simon pavitt
www.headware.co.uk

it's not hardware, it's not software, it's headware
========================================




From simon at sheff2van.ca  Sat Aug 11 17:36:14 2007
From: simon at sheff2van.ca (Simon Pavitt)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:36:14 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Computer waste fuels toxic trade
Message-ID: <46BE55FE.8080008@sheff2van.ca>

Hi geekers

If you didn't make it to the recent FreeGeek public meting, this article 
sums up the issues in the video pretty well:
[www.itmanagersjournal.com/feature/25694]

-- 

Thanks

Simon

========================================
simon pavitt
www.headware.ca

it's not hardware, it's not software, it's headware
========================================



From bill3 at uniserve.com  Tue Aug 14 00:07:26 2007
From: bill3 at uniserve.com (Bill)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:07:26 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Movie: Manufactured Landscapes
Message-ID: <1187075246.2698.53.camel@localhost.localdomain>

HI folks,

I thought I'd post a note about the film "Manufactured 
Landscapes" which I believe people here will appreciate.
It's playing until Thursday at the Hollywood Theatre.

Basically, it treats the theme of waste of various kinds,
ewaste, oil, industrial, extraction, etc and puts it 
in the context of manufacturing. What really comes across 
is the immense scale of the problem. That was a real 
eye opener. And that is just a taste of what's to come
with the further urbanization of China. Very unsettling.

	b.



From simon at sheff2van.ca  Tue Aug 14 14:27:44 2007
From: simon at sheff2van.ca (Simon Pavitt)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:27:44 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] APC Cris Nicol FOSS Prize
Message-ID: <46C21E50.1020407@sheff2van.ca>

Hi geeks


Good to see that FreeGeek (USA) has been recognised by the Association 
for Progressive Communications as one of the finalists for the Chris 
Nicol FOSS award:
[www.apc.org/english/chrisnicol]

The award recognises initiatives that are making it easy for people to 
start using free and open source software (FOSS), and is awarded to a 
person or group doing extraordinary work to make FOSS accessible to 
ordinary computer users. The criteria are:

    * improves the accessibility to, knowledge of and/or usability of FOSS
    * are user-oriented
    * are documented so that others can learn from and replicate the model
    * have demonstrable impact and have increased the number of people
      using FOSS on a day-to-day basis 


Thanks


Simon

-------- Original Message --------

===============================================================
ANNOUNCING THE FINALISTS OF THE APC CHRIS NICOL FOSS PRIZE 2007
Recognising initiatives that are making it easy for people to start 
using free and open source software (FOSS)
===============================================================

In September, APC will award the $4,000 USD prize to up to three of the 
outstanding initiatives mentioned below.

The seven Chris Nicol FOSS Prize finalists in 2007 currently under 
consideration by an international jury of experts are:

-Extramadura's Technological Literacy and Free Software Plan, Spain
-Free Geek, USA
-Gleducar, Argentina
-KLDP, South Korea
-MetaReciclagem, Brazil
-NepaLinux, Nepal
-Saregune, Spain

You can find out more about these inspiring projects in English and 
Spanish on

http://www.apc.org/english/chrisnicol

For interviews, please contact khiggs at apc.org.

ABOUT THE ASSOCIATION FOR PROGRESSIVE COMMUNICATIONS (APC)
http://www.apc.org
The Association for Progressive Communications is an international 
network of civil society organisations dedicated to empowering and 
supporting groups and individuals through the strategic use of 
information and communication technologies, especially internet 
technologies.

ABOUT THE CHRIS NICOL FOSS PRIZE
Nowadays, more and more free software applications are being developed 
and many of them are more reliable than proprietary software. But FOSS 
is not a magical 'no cost' alternative to costly software. A lot of 
effort is still needed if everyday users in community and civil society
organisations are to start using FOSS en masse. The Chris Nicol FOSS 
Prize finalists are meeting this need by providing software adapted to 
local needs, training, documentation, networking opportunities and 
promoting the use and knowledge of FOSS.


===============================================================


-- 

Thanks

Simon

========================================
simon pavitt
www.headware.ca

it's not hardware, it's not software, it's headware
========================================



From david.repa at freegeekvancouver.org  Thu Aug 16 22:59:50 2007
From: david.repa at freegeekvancouver.org (David Repa)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:59:50 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] APC Cris Nicol FOSS Prize
In-Reply-To: <46C21E50.1020407@sheff2van.ca>
References: <46C21E50.1020407@sheff2van.ca>
Message-ID: <1187330390.20787.100.camel@tiburon>

On Tue, 2007-14-08 at 14:27 -0700, Simon Pavitt wrote:
> Good to see that FreeGeek (USA) has been recognised by the Association 

Well at least one Free Geek is in the running.  I guess our grant
application didn't quite make the grade.  I got my fingers crossed!

--
david



From rcyeske at gmail.com  Wed Aug 22 04:03:08 2007
From: rcyeske at gmail.com (Ryan Yeske)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:03:08 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] QAing build boxes
Message-ID: <87k5rnkf0z.fsf@tarn.lan>


Proposed quality assurance plan for grant and adoptee boxes
-----------------------------------------------------------

The following tests need to be preformed before a box can leave the
shop.  Not everything listed necessarily applies to each particular
box configuration.

- video playback in different formats (acceptable frame rate)
- pdfs, flash, etc are viewable in a browser
- modem can connect (if present)
- ethernet can connect
- wireless can connect (if present)
- parallel port works
- serial ports work
- mouse/keyboard
- usb devices work
- digital camera
- printer test
- umass device (usb harddrive, usb keychain storage)
- memory test
- cdrom test (checksum, throughput)
- dvdrom/burn test (see NOTE)
- video mode testing (resolution, color depth)
- 3d graphics capability (accelerated? acceptable frame rate)
- harddrive (read/write, throughput)
- cpu/general system stress test

NOTE ON CD/DVD BURNING: we want to minimize the number of disks that
     we burn in the shop, obviously we can't burn a disc for every
     machine we build, but anytime we do need a disc for operations,
     it is an opportunity to test a previously untested burner.
     Tested burners can go into built boxes and after passing the read
     test, we can be pretty confident that they will burn discs in
     that system.

I propose installing a directory like the ubuntu Desktop/Examples
folder that contains all the requisite media for these tests, and
perhaps a demo script, or a suite of demo scripts to test the above.
These tests are preformed by the builder, and can also be run by the
end user of the machine, perhaps aiding in diagnosing future problems.
(This will be automatically installed by the network based
installation process, coming soon.)

It should be noted that for tests of things like cameras and printers
(and perhaps modems and wifi cards), even though such devices may not
be going out with the box, the tests should still be preformed with
some known working devices.  We will learn if the host system is
capable of supporting such devices and it ensures that the requisite
software is installed and configured, making it simpler for the end
user in the future to add these components.

The system should pass all of the above tests without requiring the
builder/installer to load the system with any nonfree software/codecs.

All component hardware comprising the finished system should be
recorded with a description of the unit along with the make and model
number.  Also, any components that are responsible for the failure of
any test should likewise be recorded.  We can use this information to
construct (and contribute to existing) databases of known
(un)supported hardware.


From rcyeske at gmail.com  Wed Aug 22 04:10:15 2007
From: rcyeske at gmail.com (Ryan Yeske)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:10:15 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] freegeekvancouver.org blip
Message-ID: <87hcmrkep4.fsf@tarn.lan>


I noticed the harddrive filled up again tonight, rendering the website
inaccessible for a short time this morning.

I deleted a boat load of logs from freegeekvancouver.org:/var/log/mysql.  

Same problem as before, for those who are aware of this ongoing issue.
Should be good for N more days before needing to do this again.


From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org  Thu Aug 23 17:06:15 2007
From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (Ifny)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:06:15 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Free Geek takes Westender by storm ;)
Message-ID: <46CE20F7.4010408@freegeekvancouver.org>

 From the Westender Aug 23 2007

'City non-profit rebuilds, recycles computers'
http://www.westender.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=49&cat=23&id=1050304&more=0

[the photo mentioned "at left" is in the second article, below]

'Illegal ?e-waste? flowing out of Vancouver'
http://www.westender.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=49&cat=23&id=1050303&more=0


From dfdumaresq at gmail.com  Sun Aug 26 20:26:20 2007
From: dfdumaresq at gmail.com (Dave Dumaresq)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:26:20 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] Re: Blip
Message-ID: <c0646da90708262026k7dfefe22r6ead285d7f647869@mail.gmail.com>

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/log-file-maintenance.html

HTH,
Dave

Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:10:15 -0700
> From: Ryan Yeske <rcyeske at gmail.com>
> Subject: [FreeGeek] freegeekvancouver.org blip
> To: freegeek-van at lists.resist.ca
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>
>
> I noticed the harddrive filled up again tonight, rendering the website
> inaccessible for a short time this morning.
>
> I deleted a boat load of logs from freegeekvancouver.org:/var/log/mysql.
>
> Same problem as before, for those who are aware of this ongoing issue.
> Should be good for N more days before needing to do this again.
>
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From alec at smecher.bc.ca  Tue Aug 28 07:55:06 2007
From: alec at smecher.bc.ca (Alec Smecher)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:55:06 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] QAing build boxes
In-Reply-To: <87k5rnkf0z.fsf@tarn.lan>
References: <87k5rnkf0z.fsf@tarn.lan>
Message-ID: <46D4374A.8090504@smecher.bc.ca>

Hi all,

Speaking from (somewhat outdated) experience, if the list below can't be 
automated, it probably won't be consistently checked. Here's what's 
worked well for me in the past:

1. Automated tool for low-level checking, e.g. boot disk. This tests the 
memory and a few other internals.
2. OS install. This loosely tests the CPU, CD, disk, video adapter, 
mouse/keyboard, etc. and serves as a burn-in.
3. Quick set of additional tests:
 - Network connectivity (wired & wireless)
 - Sound card playback works
 - Modem works (if applicable)
 - USB works

The best thing to do is put together a build sheet on which the config 
and testing can be jotted down quickly; that sheet stays with the 
machine until it leaves the building. I believe David mentioned 
something about one of these; if there's not one available, I can put 
one together.

Anyone have current experience with Linux-based system testing tools, 
particularly something that's packaged with Ubuntu?

Regards,
Alec

Ryan Yeske wrote:
> Proposed quality assurance plan for grant and adoptee boxes
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> The following tests need to be preformed before a box can leave the
> shop.  Not everything listed necessarily applies to each particular
> box configuration.
>
> - video playback in different formats (acceptable frame rate)
> - pdfs, flash, etc are viewable in a browser
> - modem can connect (if present)
> - ethernet can connect
> - wireless can connect (if present)
> - parallel port works
> - serial ports work
> - mouse/keyboard
> - usb devices work
> - digital camera
> - printer test
> - umass device (usb harddrive, usb keychain storage)
> - memory test
> - cdrom test (checksum, throughput)
> - dvdrom/burn test (see NOTE)
> - video mode testing (resolution, color depth)
> - 3d graphics capability (accelerated? acceptable frame rate)
> - harddrive (read/write, throughput)
> - cpu/general system stress test
>
> NOTE ON CD/DVD BURNING: we want to minimize the number of disks that
>      we burn in the shop, obviously we can't burn a disc for every
>      machine we build, but anytime we do need a disc for operations,
>      it is an opportunity to test a previously untested burner.
>      Tested burners can go into built boxes and after passing the read
>      test, we can be pretty confident that they will burn discs in
>      that system.
>
> I propose installing a directory like the ubuntu Desktop/Examples
> folder that contains all the requisite media for these tests, and
> perhaps a demo script, or a suite of demo scripts to test the above.
> These tests are preformed by the builder, and can also be run by the
> end user of the machine, perhaps aiding in diagnosing future problems.
> (This will be automatically installed by the network based
> installation process, coming soon.)
>
> It should be noted that for tests of things like cameras and printers
> (and perhaps modems and wifi cards), even though such devices may not
> be going out with the box, the tests should still be preformed with
> some known working devices.  We will learn if the host system is
> capable of supporting such devices and it ensures that the requisite
> software is installed and configured, making it simpler for the end
> user in the future to add these components.
>
> The system should pass all of the above tests without requiring the
> builder/installer to load the system with any nonfree software/codecs.
>
> All component hardware comprising the finished system should be
> recorded with a description of the unit along with the make and model
> number.  Also, any components that are responsible for the failure of
> any test should likewise be recorded.  We can use this information to
> construct (and contribute to existing) databases of known
> (un)supported hardware.
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From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org  Thu Aug 30 12:32:47 2007
From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (Ifny)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:32:47 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] The Great Canadian Shoreline Cleanup comes to False
	Creek Sept 22
Message-ID: <46D71B5F.1080901@freegeekvancouver.org>

The Great Canadian Shoreline Cleanup is happening in September. There is a 
"False Creek at Science World" section to this & I think it would be nice 
for Free Geek to pitch in & clean up the neighbourhood a bit.

The section near us will focus on the former Molson Indy area. It's being 
coordinated by Fairleigh Dickinson University & they're meeting at 9:00 am 
Sat. Sept 22.

More info is  at http://www.vanaqua.org/cleanup/mandate.php

You don't need to register separately unless you want to. I can register 
you under Free Geek. Just let me know if you want to come by yesterday 
afternoon as I believe people need to register by Aug 31.

The Vancouver sites are listed here: 
http://www.vanaqua.org/cleanup/searchregister.php?province_id=2&region_id=11&city_id=82

~Ifny



From rcyeske at gmail.com  Thu Aug 30 12:42:19 2007
From: rcyeske at gmail.com (Ryan Yeske)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:42:19 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] The Great Canadian Shoreline Cleanup comes to False
	Creek Sept 22
In-Reply-To: <46D71B5F.1080901@freegeekvancouver.org> (message from Ifny on
	Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:32:47 -0700)
References: <46D71B5F.1080901@freegeekvancouver.org>
Message-ID: <87bqcoajxg.fsf@tarn.lan>

Ifny <ifny at freegeekvancouver.org> writes:

> Just let me know if you want to come by yesterday afternoon as I
> believe people need to register by Aug 31.

I assume you mean "tomorrow afternoon" :)

Ryan


From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org  Thu Aug 30 12:55:54 2007
From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (Ifny)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:55:54 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] The Great Canadian Shoreline Cleanup comes to False
	Creek Sept 22
In-Reply-To: <87bqcoajxg.fsf@tarn.lan>
References: <46D71B5F.1080901@freegeekvancouver.org> <87bqcoajxg.fsf@tarn.lan>
Message-ID: <46D720CA.5010506@freegeekvancouver.org>

hehe yeah i did. Back to the future!



Ryan Yeske wrote:
> Ifny <ifny at freegeekvancouver.org> writes:
> 
>> Just let me know if you want to come by yesterday afternoon as I
>> believe people need to register by Aug 31.
> 
> I assume you mean "tomorrow afternoon" :)
> 
> Ryan
> _______________________________________________
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From smzetina at shaw.ca  Thu Aug 30 14:30:35 2007
From: smzetina at shaw.ca (Shandon Zetina)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:30:35 -0700
Subject: [FreeGeek] The Great Canadian Shoreline Cleanup comes to  False
	Creek Sept 22
In-Reply-To: <46D71B5F.1080901@freegeekvancouver.org>
References: <46D71B5F.1080901@freegeekvancouver.org>
Message-ID: <0JNL00LBTVR57Y31@l-daemon>

Yes, I will plan to come.
Shandon Zetina
604-263-1779

At 12:32 PM 30/08/2007, you wrote:
>The Great Canadian Shoreline Cleanup is happening in September. 
>There is a "False Creek at Science World" section to this & I think 
>it would be nice for Free Geek to pitch in & clean up the neighbourhood a bit.
>
>The section near us will focus on the former Molson Indy area. It's 
>being coordinated by Fairleigh Dickinson University & they're 
>meeting at 9:00 am Sat. Sept 22.
>
>More info is  at http://www.vanaqua.org/cleanup/mandate.php
>
>You don't need to register separately unless you want to. I can 
>register you under Free Geek. Just let me know if you want to come 
>by yesterday afternoon as I believe people need to register by Aug 31.
>
>The Vancouver sites are listed here: 
>http://www.vanaqua.org/cleanup/searchregister.php?province_id=2&region_id=11&city_id=82
>
>~Ifny
>
>_______________________________________________
>http://freegeekvancouver.org
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>
>
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