From iamturnip at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 18:04:22 2007 From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 18:04:22 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] drivers & bikers Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0704021804l7ba642b9x66155f663293bfd1@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone I am looking to put together a database of people who would like to volunteer to do computer donation pick ups. If folks could email with info like: Car/Van/Truck or bike&trailer available evening or day or both phone # area they would like to cover The above info would be great! -- David 604-690-7372 From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org Thu Apr 5 14:07:49 2007 From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (ifny) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:07:49 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] FG General Meeting this Sat, 1-3pm @ Video In Message-ID: <46156525.1030200@freegeekvancouver.org> Hey all, here's an official reminder: Free Geek General Meeting (1st Saturday of the month) Video In Studios 1:00-3:00pm 1965 Main St. (between 3rd & 4th) /All are welcome! Wireless available. Fully accessible./ Join us as we continue developing a community non-profit dedicated to computer recyling, education, empowerment and free/open source philosophies. Open to the curious, the beginner and the programmer. Come getcher geek on! For more info, contact info [at] freegeekvancouver [dot] org or 604-690-7372. View map at: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=1965+MAIN+STREET,+vancouver+bc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.001301,90.087891&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&om=1&iwloc=addr http://www.videoinstudios.com/ Hope to see you there! From seanmoffat at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 15:53:08 2007 From: seanmoffat at gmail.com (Sean Moffat) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:53:08 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] You've got more mail In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0704021804l7ba642b9x66155f663293bfd1@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c0eafaa0704021804l7ba642b9x66155f663293bfd1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4616CF54.8080400@gmail.com> Hi, The statement for the storage locker arrived today. If I can make it to tomorows meet I'll bring it with me. From iamturnip at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 17:22:50 2007 From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 17:22:50 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] LCD Projector help Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0704091722le873aefxbc6660fd6d76f3be@mail.gmail.com> Hey geekers, We have a basket case Sharp XV-350H that looks like it fell out of the back of a truck, and hit the road. Its all there minus the case. The power cord has been cut. Anyone interested in fixing it? Might be good for our meetings! Probably just a dead projector now, but might make for an interesting Sunday afternoon poke around for someone. I have some pics, so let me know if you are interested. -- David 604-690-7372 From iamlachance at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 19:32:04 2007 From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:32:04 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] LCD Projector help In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0704091722le873aefxbc6660fd6d76f3be@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c0eafaa0704091722le873aefxbc6660fd6d76f3be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <461AF724.5000702@gmail.com> It sure would be nice to have a working projector one day... My guess is that someone had given it to their kids to play with it (future truck drivers?). It came off the sidewalk. Bonus points to whoever finds the old jellybean inside! ~Ifny David Repa wrote: > Hey geekers, > > We have a basket case Sharp XV-350H that looks like it fell out of the > back of a truck, and hit the road. Its all there minus the case. The > power cord has been cut. Anyone interested in fixing it? Might be > good for our meetings! Probably just a dead projector now, but might > make for an interesting Sunday afternoon poke around for someone. I > have some pics, so let me know if you are interested. > From freegeek at seanhill.ca Mon Apr 9 20:27:14 2007 From: freegeek at seanhill.ca (sean hill) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:27:14 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] April 7 general meeting minutes Message-ID: <461B0412.8060809@seanhill.ca> Hey folks, Here are the minutes for the April 7th general meeting. Please review and provide corrections. sean h :o) ==================================== Free Geek General Meeting - 7 April 2007 Video In Facilitator - Scott Regulator - Ifny Scribe - Sean H Attendance ---------- David Repa Mark Rusty James Kevin Stiller Ryan Yeske Sim Paul Teehan Scott Joe B Francisco Bernie Ifny Sean H Joe Thomson Gerald Josh Fraser Hanson -Definition of consensus -Free Geek principles -FOSS definition -Provide low cost tech -democratic -non-profit Agenda ====== Old Business ------------ Sista'Hood VanLug Windowless Wednesday Movie Night Charitable status New Business ------------ Definition of Membership Location Massive Tech Show $tate of money Events - new dates Mailing lists BAN Movies Recyclers City Martin's visit VanLUG ------ -Vancouver Linux User's Group -presentation at BCIT -went well - excitement generated -suggested recycler on VanLUG site -possible summer hardware drive Windowsless Wednesday --------------------- -OpenOffice presentation by Sean Hill -received well Sista'Hood ---------- -Community Wellness Fair -well received -made a contact at CBC radio -open computer boxes for people to play with -provided info on women in computer history Movie Night ----------- -Computer Chronicles from 1984 -Tracked down host - Stuart Checton -Steal This Movie -Needs to be publicised better Charitable status ----------------- -Delayed until bylaws are setup -new bylaws up on wiki - please participate -Must clearly define how we are charitable -Hardware grants? -Recycling? -Education? -It depends how we word it Massive Tech Show ----------------- -Received booth for greatly subsidised price -Found out 6 days before show -Had to dress professional -Special brochure created for Massive -Working at Massive - Gerald, David, Ifny, Rusty, Joe, Sim -Received help from many people to create booth -Only recylcler present at show -Invited to Edmonton show -Standing invitation -BAN allowed FG to use media materials BAN --- -Basil Action Network - Reference to international convention around e-waste -BAN audits recycling processes -Not an environmental auditor -no current Canadian recyclers that are BAN approved -e-waste being shipped around the world and poisoning people and the environment -movies - BAN documentaries show the current state of e-waste Recyclers --------- -Chicago -Flexible and helpful -But will not release downstream recyclers -With more FG pressure they may release list to FG -Lawyers looked at BAN pledge but will not sign it over some technicalities -Seattle -Total Reclaim -Follows BAN -Charge for equipment -TechCominco -Local -RC recycler - Delta -First NA recycler willing to share vendors -Seem to be working within BAN standards -Discussion over whether we can operate without a complete vendor list -For some, BAN certification may be acceptable -We are not fully transparent if we can't show the full stream -BAN is meant to stand in the middle and provide an assurance of recycling process -BAN is not a government organisation and their certification is not binding -May be difficult to get what we want right off the bat Location ======== -City of Vancouver -Been in contact with mayor's office since new year -Last week we received an email passing us on to City real estate manager - Michael Flannigan -Spoke with him and it sounded positive for low price rent -Another contact said "little hope" - market value -Conflicting comments -Some concern over whether there may be political conflict -City staff tends to be separate from the politics -Michael Flannigan is fairly new to position -Gerald has been in contact with city regarding public benefits development -Developer agrees to set aside some space for a non-profit for other concessions -Getting to present to council might spur action -Might be able to piggyback on city workgroup regarding municipal wireless -City doesn't want liability of sponsoring e-waste recyclers -Passed on to Encorp -Politically sensitive topic -Other recyclers may not be happy if we are able to get a rent deal -Great Northern Way Campus - SFU, UBC, Emily Carr, BCIT -May have some derelict buildings available for use -Joe T feels we may be able to enter a partnership -Has done up a proposal -Would be local and likely accessible -Not currently highly transit accessible - will likely grow with student population -To be discussed on locations mailing list -Also checking commercial real estate listings -craigslist -Would like to have a location no later than June 1 when city e-waste communication comes out State of Money ============== -Balance is -$217 -Revenue is continually growing -Waiting for cheque from Canadian Studies grant -No word yet from Freedonia - their site says April 16th as last decision date -Grant apps in to APC, MEC, Shaw -Department of electrical engineering at UBC may be a contact for outreach and funding Mailing Lists/Workgroups ======================== -New hardware grants mailing list -Contact person to be setup for hardware grants -Clarify criteria for hardware grants -Currently using PDX's criteria -Non-profit or organisation of social change -Mailing list admin is now Joe B -Please sign-up to lists for info and to participate Pick-ups ======== -We need volunteers to do hardware pickups Martin ====== -PDX program developer coming up from 13-17 April -Will setup FG software and teach how it works -May do a ruby class Definition of Membership ======================== -Current definition to be posted to general Action ====== -David R - Send out link for bylaw wiki -Joe T - To contact Great Northern Way and provide proposal -Help from Scott -Discussion to move to location workgroup -Contact Dept of Electrical Engineering -Booth at open house? -Ifny - setup hardware grants mailing list -Scott - migrate General mailing list once new server is active -David - post current membership definition to general list From iamturnip at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 20:49:33 2007 From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:49:33 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Membership definition Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0704092049h1e6f739fr27fa04b1e5c2cd44@mail.gmail.com> Hey folks, I know we ran out of time at the meeting. So here it is. The proposed outline for Free Geek membership 2. A person may ask for a volunteer number for membership in Free Geek and on receiving a volunteer number is a member. 3. There is no fee associated with membership. -- David 604-690-7372 From ben at computerdolt.com Tue Apr 10 09:25:06 2007 From: ben at computerdolt.com (Ben Holt) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:25:06 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] LCD Projector help In-Reply-To: <461AF724.5000702@gmail.com> References: <8c0eafaa0704091722le873aefxbc6660fd6d76f3be@mail.gmail.com> <461AF724.5000702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <461BBA62.7010306@computerdolt.com> ifny said the following on 04/09/2007 07:32 PM: > It sure would be nice to have a working projector one day... > > My guess is that someone had given it to their kids to play with it > (future truck drivers?). It came off the sidewalk. Bonus points to > whoever finds the old jellybean inside! Unless the bulb is working (or you have a spare) I think you'll find trying to repair it in its current form will be prohibitively expensive. Replacement bulbs are insanely expensive. You might be better off taking the parts and making a "frankenjector": http://www.lumenlab.com/diy/ http://inventgeek.com/Projects/HomeTheater/HomeTheater.aspx - Ben From foszae at telus.net Wed Apr 11 16:13:11 2007 From: foszae at telus.net (Foszae) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:13:11 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] two bits Message-ID: <461D6B87.5000101@telus.net> hi folks. i missed the general meeting but enjoyed the notes and will at the very least show my face at the next one. which is on the calendar. but i was wondering, could i hear back from the people who are looking at spaces to rent. i was talking about going in with Amy from Momentum to look at the place with the bumpers, and wanted to hear the exprerience of whomever had gone to tlak to those folks before. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, ~Ifny Foszae wrote: > hi folks. i missed the general meeting but enjoyed the notes and will > at the very least show my face at the next one. which is on the calendar. > > but i was wondering, could i hear back from the people who are looking > at spaces to rent. i was talking about going in with Amy from > Momentum to look at the place with the bumpers, and wanted to hear the > exprerience of whomever had gone to tlak to those folks before. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van > From humble at resist.ca Thu Apr 12 07:50:13 2007 From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:50:13 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Ubuntu 7.10 - Introducing the Gutsy Gibbon Message-ID: <200704120750.13499.humble@resist.ca> Hi folks, This message from Mark Shuttleworth about the upcoming October release of Ubuntu 7.10 is noteworthy in that he states that it "takes an ultra-orthodox view of licensing: no firmware, drivers, imagery, sounds, applications, or other content which do not include full source materials and come with full rights of modification, remixing and redistribution. There should be no more conservative home, for those who demand a super-strict interpretation of the 'free' in free software." humble ------------------------ Introducing the Gutsy Gibbon Mark Shuttleworth mark at ubuntu.com Thu Apr 12 07:24:38 BST 2007 Folks, allow me to introduce the Gutsy Gibbon, who will be succeeding the Feisty Fawn as the focus of our development love in a few short weeks, for release in October 2007. The Gibbon won the G-race to be our engineering mascot for this next release, but it was a close run. We very much wanted to honour the tremendous contributions of the GNU project to Free Software by awarding the role to the Glossy Gnu. This prompted an intense internal debate about trademarks, at which both the Fiery Fox and the Icy Weasel were heard. In the end, however, the judge, jury and elocutionary (that would be me) took a liking to the Gibbon's extraordinary reach, and the Gibbon won outright. The Glossy Gnu will nonetheless play a role in this next release, because Ubuntu 7.10 will feature a new flavour - as yet unnamed - which takes an ultra-orthodox view of licensing: no firmware, drivers, imagery, sounds, applications, or other content which do not include full source materials and come with full rights of modification, remixing and redistribution. There should be no more conservative home, for those who demand a super-strict interpretation of the "free" in free software. This work will be done in collaboration with the folks behind Gnewsense. Our Gutsy is an expert in brachiation, which is apt for a project that needs to navigate a complicated forest of branches very quickly. Some folks would say that any monkey can install Ubuntu (and sadly, other folks would say that many have), but the Gibbon will take easy installation to a whole new level, with work on an unattended-installation infrastructure in Ubiquity that makes it trivial to roll out Ubuntu desktops across an organization while getting on with other, more complicated stuff such as Windows service pack installations on legacy desktops. While Ubuntu is by no means the 800-pound gorilla in the server game, the Gibbon will show that lean and mean count for something! Agility of deployment, together with integrated management will be a focus for the Ubuntu server team. Gutsy will not be an LTS (Long Term Support) release, but it will nonetheless see a lot of server work and be useful for fast-moving server deployments. On a personal note, the monkey on my back has been composite-by-default, which I had hoped would happen in Edgy, then Feisty. I'm nervous to predict it now for Gutsy, for fear of a third strike, but I'm told that great work is being done in the Compiz/Beryl community and upstream in X. There's a reasonable chance that Gutsy will deliver where those others have not. I remain convinced that malleable, transparent and extra-dimensional GUI's are a real opportunity for the free software community to take a lead in the field of desktop innovation, and am keen to see the underlying technologies land in Ubuntu, but we have to balance that enthusiasm with the Technical Board's judgement of the stability and maturity of those fundamental layers. Of course, the real work of deciding Gutsy's goals will happen at UDS-Sevilla, May 5-11 in the wonderful Andalucia, Spain. I hope many of you will be joining us for some hard work and also, no doubt, a fair bit of monkey business! As usual we will be running a semi-virtual summit, open for participation by VoIP and real-time online editing of the blueprints for Gutsy Gibbon. If you have items you want on the agenda, please make sure they are in the Ubuntu blueprints list: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu ...and then also nominate them for discussion at UDS-Sevilla! Please only do this if you intend to participate in the developer summit - either in person or virtually - so that you can present your ideas and collaborate with the other developers. The summit should be a great combination of hard work planning Gutsy, presentations from cutting edge upstreams on their own plans for this next six months, and some time in the sun for R&R in the best tradition of the region. For those of you who can't make it across the Atlantic, we hope to see you for Gutsy+1 at UDS-Boston in the first week of November. Now that the Fawn has found her legs, and is ready for her debut on April 19th, we need to lay some foundations for Gutsy. In the next few days we will open up a limited-upload target for Gutsy and start uploading toolchain packages there. Our aim is to open Gutsy for general upload on the same day that Feisty is released. Wherever you are, that will be a day for celebration. Go ape! Mark From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org Thu Apr 12 11:31:06 2007 From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (ifny) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:31:06 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] two bits In-Reply-To: <461DAB45.9070108@freegeekvancouver.org> References: <461D6B87.5000101@telus.net> <461DAB45.9070108@freegeekvancouver.org> Message-ID: <461E7AEA.8090703@freegeekvancouver.org> By the way, I shoulda mentioned that if you want to join the Locations mailing list (for the freshest fuzziest locations news), here's the link: http://puddle.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fg-locations You can also browse the archives there. All our mailing lists can be viewed here: http://freegeekvancouver.org/?q=en/node/26 Hope that helps, Foszae! ~Ifny ifny wrote: > Hi Foszae, > > There's a workgroup called 'Locations' that currently handles the > search for a space. > > I'm not sure I understand what information specifically you're looking > for. Free Geek won't be renting the space with the bumpers that you > mentioned. If you're just wondering what that space is like, why don't > we take this discussion off the general list (you would reply to > ifny at freegeekvancouver.org instead of the whole discussion list). > > Cheers, > > ~Ifny > > > > Foszae wrote: >> hi folks. i missed the general meeting but enjoyed the notes and >> will at the very least show my face at the next one. which is on the >> calendar. >> >> but i was wondering, could i hear back from the people who are >> looking at spaces to rent. i was talking about going in with Amy >> from Momentum to look at the place with the bumpers, and wanted to >> hear the exprerience of whomever had gone to tlak to those folks before. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://freegeekvancouver.org >> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' >> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van >> > > _______________________________________________ > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van From ms419 at freezone.co.uk Fri Apr 13 22:41:26 2007 From: ms419 at freezone.co.uk (Jack Bates) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:41:26 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] SFU Software and Activism Workshop Message-ID: <1176529286.427.21.camel@ket.lat> Hi Free Geek Vancouver! I'm working at SFU on collecting hardware for Free Geek. Our Public Interest Research Group, a rad, central place on campus has agreed to accept donations for us and share information about Free Geek with excited activists. I'm preparing a workshop for the PIRG retreat next weekend on "Software and Activism", how free software is an activist cause and how open source tools can facilitate activism. Here's a rambling draft of what I know on the subject. I still got to pear it down to some core ideas to present. Then I got to come up with some interactive ways of presenting these abstract ideas, so I'm not just preaching. Any teachers or PDP students on this list? http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Education/Open_Source_Workshop I'd love your feedback on these topics and would love pointers to other material on these subjects. I hear David is presenting on free software and recycling, which is awesome: Can you give me any help David? Much thanks all! 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When's your retreat brother? ~Ifny Jack Bates wrote: > Hi Free Geek Vancouver! I'm working at SFU on collecting hardware for > Free Geek. Our Public Interest Research Group, a rad, central place on > campus has agreed to accept donations for us and share information about > Free Geek with excited activists. I'm preparing a workshop for the PIRG > retreat next weekend on "Software and Activism", how free software is an > activist cause and how open source tools can facilitate activism. > > Here's a rambling draft of what I know on the subject. I still got to > pear it down to some core ideas to present. Then I got to come up with > some interactive ways of presenting these abstract ideas, so I'm not > just preaching. Any teachers or PDP students on this list? > http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Education/Open_Source_Workshop > > I'd love your feedback on these topics and would love pointers to other > material on these subjects. I hear David is presenting on free software > and recycling, which is awesome: Can you give me any help David? > > Much thanks all! Jack > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van > From jason at parit.ca Fri Apr 13 19:11:12 2007 From: jason at parit.ca (jason) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:11:12 -0500 Subject: [FreeGeek] SFU Software and Activism Workshop In-Reply-To: <1176529286.427.21.camel@ket.lat> References: <1176529286.427.21.camel@ket.lat> Message-ID: <46203840.6010309@parit.ca> Have you checked out http://aptgetanarchy.org ? There's some very interesting essays on there. I'm also involved in ParIT Parecon Worker Co-op http://parit.ca , OpenCity http://opencity.plug.ca (an annual festival promoting free communication amoungst activists, artist and anachists), and also PLUG Prairie Linux User Group http://plug.ca Jason Jack Bates wrote: > Hi Free Geek Vancouver! I'm working at SFU on collecting hardware for > Free Geek. Our Public Interest Research Group, a rad, central place on > campus has agreed to accept donations for us and share information about > Free Geek with excited activists. I'm preparing a workshop for the PIRG > retreat next weekend on "Software and Activism", how free software is an > activist cause and how open source tools can facilitate activism. > > Here's a rambling draft of what I know on the subject. I still got to > pear it down to some core ideas to present. Then I got to come up with > some interactive ways of presenting these abstract ideas, so I'm not > just preaching. Any teachers or PDP students on this list? > http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Education/Open_Source_Workshop > > I'd love your feedback on these topics and would love pointers to other > material on these subjects. I hear David is presenting on free software > and recycling, which is awesome: Can you give me any help David? > > Much thanks all! Jack > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van > From jason at parit.ca Fri Apr 13 20:04:25 2007 From: jason at parit.ca (jason) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:04:25 -0500 Subject: [FreeGeek] SFU Software and Activism Workshop In-Reply-To: <46203840.6010309@parit.ca> References: <1176529286.427.21.camel@ket.lat> <46203840.6010309@parit.ca> Message-ID: <462044B9.8050609@parit.ca> Have you checked out http://aptgetanarchy.org ? There's some very interesting essays on there. I'm also involved in ParIT Parecon Worker Co-op http://parit.ca , OpenCity http://opencity.plug.ca (an annual festival promoting free communication amongst activists, artist and anarchists), and also PLUG Prairie Linux User Group http://plug.ca Jason > Jack Bates wrote: >> Hi Free Geek Vancouver! I'm working at SFU on collecting hardware for >> Free Geek. Our Public Interest Research Group, a rad, central place on >> campus has agreed to accept donations for us and share information about >> Free Geek with excited activists. I'm preparing a workshop for the PIRG >> retreat next weekend on "Software and Activism", how free software is an >> activist cause and how open source tools can facilitate activism. >> >> Here's a rambling draft of what I know on the subject. I still got to >> pear it down to some core ideas to present. Then I got to come up with >> some interactive ways of presenting these abstract ideas, so I'm not >> just preaching. Any teachers or PDP students on this list? >> http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Education/Open_Source_Workshop >> >> I'd love your feedback on these topics and would love pointers to other >> material on these subjects. I hear David is presenting on free software >> and recycling, which is awesome: Can you give me any help David? >> >> Much thanks all! Jack >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://freegeekvancouver.org >> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' >> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van >> > > From jason at freeculture.ca Fri Apr 13 20:05:56 2007 From: jason at freeculture.ca (Jason Loughead) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:05:56 -0500 Subject: [FreeGeek] SFU Software and Activism Workshop Message-ID: <46204514.8020403@freeculture.ca> Have you checked out http://aptgetanarchy.org ? There's some very interesting essays on there. I'm also involved in ParIT Parecon Worker Co-op http://parit.ca , OpenCity http://opencity.plug.ca (an annual festival promoting free communication amongst activists, artist and anarchists), and also PLUG Prairie Linux User Group http://plug.ca Jason Jack Bates wrote: > Hi Free Geek Vancouver! I'm working at SFU on collecting hardware for > Free Geek. Our Public Interest Research Group, a rad, central place on > campus has agreed to accept donations for us and share information about > Free Geek with excited activists. I'm preparing a workshop for the PIRG > retreat next weekend on "Software and Activism", how free software is an > activist cause and how open source tools can facilitate activism. > > Here's a rambling draft of what I know on the subject. I still got to > pear it down to some core ideas to present. Then I got to come up with > some interactive ways of presenting these abstract ideas, so I'm not > just preaching. Any teachers or PDP students on this list? > http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Education/Open_Source_Workshop > > I'd love your feedback on these topics and would love pointers to other > material on these subjects. I hear David is presenting on free software > and recycling, which is awesome: Can you give me any help David? > > Much thanks all! Jack > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van > From iamlachance at gmail.com Sat Apr 14 11:25:10 2007 From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:25:10 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] SFU Software and Activism Workshop In-Reply-To: <46204514.8020403@freeculture.ca> References: <46204514.8020403@freeculture.ca> Message-ID: <46211C86.9080009@gmail.com> Has some good case studies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_politics "The *open politics* theory combines aspects of the free software and open content movements with multilateral assumptions of postmoderism . It promotes decision making methods claimed to be a more open, less antagonistic, and more capable of determining what is in the public interest with respect to public policy issues. The cost for these advantages is reliance on social software , with accompanying systemic biases that open politics advocates seek to overcome in various ways." Jason Loughead wrote: > Have you checked out http://aptgetanarchy.org ? There's some very > interesting essays on there. > > I'm also involved in ParIT Parecon Worker Co-op http://parit.ca , > OpenCity http://opencity.plug.ca (an annual festival promoting free > communication amongst activists, artist and anarchists), and also PLUG > Prairie Linux User Group http://plug.ca > > Jason > > Jack Bates wrote: >> Hi Free Geek Vancouver! I'm working at SFU on collecting hardware for >> Free Geek. Our Public Interest Research Group, a rad, central place on >> campus has agreed to accept donations for us and share information about >> Free Geek with excited activists. I'm preparing a workshop for the PIRG >> retreat next weekend on "Software and Activism", how free software is an >> activist cause and how open source tools can facilitate activism. >> >> Here's a rambling draft of what I know on the subject. I still got to >> pear it down to some core ideas to present. Then I got to come up with >> some interactive ways of presenting these abstract ideas, so I'm not >> just preaching. Any teachers or PDP students on this list? >> http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Education/Open_Source_Workshop >> >> I'd love your feedback on these topics and would love pointers to other >> material on these subjects. I hear David is presenting on free software >> and recycling, which is awesome: Can you give me any help David? >> >> Much thanks all! Jack >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://freegeekvancouver.org >> 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' >> https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van >> > _______________________________________________ > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van > From iamlachance at gmail.com Sat Apr 14 16:01:23 2007 From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:01:23 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] BYOBBQ sunday (tomorrow!) at the Geek House Message-ID: <46215D43.80103@gmail.com> Hey so if you'd like to enjoy the sunshine & hang out in the afternoon, come out for a vegetarian BYOBBQ skewerama! All Free Geek sympathizers welcome ;) !~ Tomorrow ~! Sunday April 15, 3:00pm 4241 Balkan Street, near Main & King Edward, backyard 604-690-7372 map is here: http://maps.google.com/?q=4241+Balkan+St,+Vancouver,+British+Columbia,+Canada&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.450489,60.908203&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=49.247246,-123.095412&spn=0.006934,0.01487&om=1&iwloc=addr Please bring vegetables/tofu dogs to share and/or a vegan sauce/marinade to make shishkababs. Skewers provided. We can set up a kabab assembly line Charlie Chaplin style. Here are a few recipes if you're the cooking sort: http://www.barbecue-online.co.uk/barbecue-recipes/bbq_vegetables.htm If you're not, veggies that grill well include: zucchini, eggplant, yams, sweet potatoes, young baby potatoes, squash, tomatoes, mini-tomatoes, mushrooms of all kinds, onions, leeks, celery. ~Ifny From simon at sheff2van.ca Mon Apr 16 16:13:13 2007 From: simon at sheff2van.ca (Simon Pavitt) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:13:13 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Free Geek video Message-ID: <46240309.10104@sheff2van.ca> Hi all In case you're not aware, just wanted to draw attention to the fact that Free Geek come third in the video poll of those attending the recent Non Profit Technology conference, "Reinventing Politics: Creating Social Change From the Ground Up", which took place in Washington DC recently. To view the result and entries go to: [dogooder.tv/Contest_result.aspx] I hate to say it, but the deserved winner was from Avaaz Foundation [www.avaaz.org]. For more info about the conference go to: [nten.org/ntc] Thanks Simon ======================================== simon pavitt www.headware.co.uk it's not hardware, it's not software, it's headware ======================================== From ms419 at freezone.co.uk Mon Apr 16 16:52:36 2007 From: ms419 at freezone.co.uk (Jack Bates) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:52:36 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] [sustain@sfu.ca: Fwd: RE: FreeGeek Recycling Program] Message-ID: <20070416235236.GG5039@tor.lat> Here's information about computer disposal from SFU Facilities Management. The Techno Trash website has lots of great statistics, they'd be an interesting place to check out. Them and the Computer Recycling Society. I'd totally like to visit Techno Trash sometime. They also offer some interesting services which could maybe make us money? Like providing donors with an inventory of what we accept, or data deletion services. Does the Free Geek Mother Ship do anything like this? SFU doesn't say how much it costs to recycle with Techno Trash. Jack ----- Forwarded message from Sustainable SFU ----- X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 From: Sustainable SFU Subject: Fwd: RE: FreeGeek Recycling Program To: ms419 at freezone.co.uk X-Virus-Scanned: by Freezone Internet X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=4.31 tests=[none] X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: >From: "Wendy Lee" >To: "'Sustainable SFU'" >Subject: RE: FreeGeek Recycling Program >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:17:27 -0700 >Thread-Index: Acd7lo8hH9rbjRsHQHSav2u8OxfsyAA5rDww > >Hi Candace, > >Our e-waste goes to Techno Trash Recycling, 3 wrapped pallets per >week between Sept. and April. >http://www.technotrashrecycling.com > >Regards, Wendy > >From: Sustainable SFU [mailto:sustain at sfu.ca] >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:48 AM >To: Wendy Lee >Subject: FreeGeek Recycling Program > > >Hi Wendy, > > >I got this email about the electronic waste recycling program in >Vancouver. Looks like it's a pretty good program. Could you let me >know how we currently recycle our e-waste and if this program might >work for us? > >Thanks and looking forward to seeing you on Friday! > >Candace > > >Hi Candice, Jack Bates here. I'm volunteering with FreeGeek Vancouver, >doing electronic waste recycling: http://freegeekvancouver.org/ > >It's based on a very successful group in Portland, 1) reducing >electronic waste, 2) providing access to technology through the recycled >computers and 3) providing technical skills by building and testing >recycled computers, and trough free technology courses. > >I've seen pallets of PCs at Central Stores which I understand we pay >someone in Maple Ridge to collect and recycle? I understand Lawrence >Reason is in charge of recycling computers on campus? I understand >current recycling may simply mean shipped back to China? Not sure about >these details... > >Anyway, I realized if I'm interested in finding out more about how SFU >recycles computers and possibly getting FreeGeek Vancouver paid to >recycle our computers in a socially just way, I should talk to >Sustainable SFU. What advice can you give me? > >Much thanks! Jack >Candace Bonfield >External Relations Director >Sustainable SFU > >SFU Local Food Project >A project of Sustainable SFU in collaboration with >The Centre for Sustainable Community Development and Local Solutions >Email: sustain at sfu.ca >Phone: 604-291-4704 >Fax: 604-291-5473 >Website: http://www.sfu.ca/~sustain/projects/local_food.html ----- End forwarded message ----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[1]http://puddle.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fg-recycling -- David 604-690-7372 From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org Mon Apr 16 18:59:29 2007 From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (ifny) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:59:29 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Ruby Tuesday - April 17th - Ruby on Rails workshop In-Reply-To: <462179CE.4020305@freegeekvancouver.org> References: <462179CE.4020305@freegeekvancouver.org> Message-ID: <46242A01.1040701@freegeekvancouver.org> Hello Free Geek sympathisers, Martin from Free Geek Portland is in town, & will be doing a free Ruby on Rails workshop April 17th. W00tcha! Since this is going to be in-depth, folks should have some programming experience (not necessarily with Ruby). We're trying to keep the group small, so that we can cover more ground. There are still a few places left, so please RSVP. First-come, first-serve! Tea provided. 4241 Balkan St. (near Main & King Edward), back door 7:00-9:00 see map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4241+balkan,+vancouver+bc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=37.273371,86.660156&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=49.247344,-123.095412&spn=0.007508,0.028195&om=1&iwloc=addr What's Ruby on Rails? http://www.rubyonrails.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails ~Ifny http://freegeekvancouver.org 604-690-7372 ifny wrote: > Ok cats, who's up for Ruby Tuesday? > > Please note: Martin's asking that we keep attendance to 10 folks or > less, to keep it intimate. Please rsvp asap so that we know how many > places are left over. If you have friends who want to come, rsvp for > them too. > > 4241 Balkan St. (near Main & King Edward) > 7:00 to 9:00; see map: > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4241+balkan,+vancouver+bc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=37.273371,86.660156&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=49.247344,-123.095412&spn=0.007508,0.028195&om=1&iwloc=addr > > > > What's Ruby on Rails? > > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails > > ~Ifny > > > _______________________________________________ > fg-software mailing list > fg-software at freegeekvancouver.org > http://puddle.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fg-software From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org Mon Apr 16 18:59:42 2007 From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (ifny) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:59:42 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Ruby Tuesday - April 17th - Ruby on Rails workshop In-Reply-To: <462179CE.4020305@freegeekvancouver.org> References: <462179CE.4020305@freegeekvancouver.org> Message-ID: <46242A0E.30509@freegeekvancouver.org> Hello Free Geek sympathisers, Martin from Free Geek Portland is in town, & will be doing a free Ruby on Rails workshop April 17th. W00tcha! Since this is going to be in-depth, folks should have some programming experience (not necessarily with Ruby). We're trying to keep the group small, so that we can cover more ground. There are still a few places left, so please RSVP. First-come, first-serve! Tea provided. 4241 Balkan St. (near Main & King Edward), back door 7:00-9:00 see map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4241+balkan,+vancouver+bc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=37.273371,86.660156&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=49.247344,-123.095412&spn=0.007508,0.028195&om=1&iwloc=addr What's Ruby on Rails? http://www.rubyonrails.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails ~Ifny http://freegeekvancouver.org 604-690-7372 From unixd0od at hotmail.com Mon Apr 16 19:01:07 2007 From: unixd0od at hotmail.com (Joseph LeBlanc) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:01:07 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Ruby Tuesday - April 17th - Ruby on Rails workshop In-Reply-To: <46242A01.1040701@freegeekvancouver.org> References: <462179CE.4020305@freegeekvancouver.org> <46242A01.1040701@freegeekvancouver.org> Message-ID: I'll definitely be there. Joe, -----Original Message----- From: freegeek-van-bounces at lists.resist.ca [mailto:freegeek-van-bounces at lists.resist.ca] On Behalf Of ifny Sent: April-16-07 18:59 To: FreeGeek Vancouver discussion Subject: [FreeGeek] Ruby Tuesday - April 17th - Ruby on Rails workshop Hello Free Geek sympathisers, Martin from Free Geek Portland is in town, & will be doing a free Ruby on Rails workshop April 17th. W00tcha! Since this is going to be in-depth, folks should have some programming experience (not necessarily with Ruby). We're trying to keep the group small, so that we can cover more ground. There are still a few places left, so please RSVP. First-come, first-serve! Tea provided. 4241 Balkan St. (near Main & King Edward), back door 7:00-9:00 see map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4241+balkan,+vancouver+bc&sll=37.062 5,-95.677068&sspn=37.273371,86.660156&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=49.247344,-123. 095412&spn=0.007508,0.028195&om=1&iwloc=addr What's Ruby on Rails? http://www.rubyonrails.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails ~Ifny http://freegeekvancouver.org 604-690-7372 ifny wrote: > Ok cats, who's up for Ruby Tuesday? > > Please note: Martin's asking that we keep attendance to 10 folks or > less, to keep it intimate. Please rsvp asap so that we know how many > places are left over. If you have friends who want to come, rsvp for > them too. > > 4241 Balkan St. (near Main & King Edward) > 7:00 to 9:00; see map: > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4241+balkan,+vancouver+bc&sll=37.062 5,-95.677068&sspn=37.273371,86.660156&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=49.247344,-123. 095412&spn=0.007508,0.028195&om=1&iwloc=addr > > > > What's Ruby on Rails? > > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails > > ~Ifny > > > _______________________________________________ > fg-software mailing list > fg-software at freegeekvancouver.org > http://puddle.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fg-software _______________________________________________ http://freegeekvancouver.org 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org Mon Apr 16 19:05:07 2007 From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (ifny) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:05:07 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] [sustain@sfu.ca: Fwd: RE: FreeGeek Recycling Program] In-Reply-To: <8c0eafaa0704161741k51dffefqb91654a8a58de80a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070416235236.GG5039@tor.lat> <8c0eafaa0704161741k51dffefqb91654a8a58de80a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46242B53.2050909@freegeekvancouver.org> By the way Jack, here's the link to our previous conversation regarding Technotrash, & why Free Geek decided not to use them: https://lists.resist.ca/pipermail/freegeek-van/2007-March/000261.html ~Ifny http://freegeekvancouver.org 604-690-7372 David Repa wrote: > Jack, > > I would encourage any talk about recyclers be moved to the > fg-recycling list[1]. Techno Trash certainly has a nice web site. I > have met with them, and unfortunately at this time they do not meet > our standards of transparency. > > Lawrence Reason who is the manager of waste at SFU has contacted me, > and we are discussing some ideas at the moment. > > [1]http://puddle.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fg-recycling > From sean at seanhill.ca Mon Apr 16 20:24:45 2007 From: sean at seanhill.ca (sean hill) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:24:45 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Ruby Tuesday - April 17th - Ruby on Rails workshop In-Reply-To: <46242A0E.30509@freegeekvancouver.org> References: <462179CE.4020305@freegeekvancouver.org> <46242A0E.30509@freegeekvancouver.org> Message-ID: <46243DFD.3020101@seanhill.ca> Alas, but I will be unable to attend again as I'll be writing my last final exam... woohoo! Pity for me about the timing, it's a big missed opportunity. I'm pretty good with picking up languages so I'll pester you folks for info later! sean h :o) ifny wrote: > Hello Free Geek sympathisers, > > > Martin from Free Geek Portland is in town, & will be doing a free Ruby > on Rails workshop April 17th. W00tcha! > > Since this is going to be in-depth, folks should have some programming > experience (not necessarily with Ruby). We're trying to keep the group > small, so that we can cover more ground. There are still a few places > left, so please RSVP. First-come, first-serve! Tea provided. > > 4241 Balkan St. (near Main & King Edward), back door > 7:00-9:00 > > see map: > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4241+balkan,+vancouver+bc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=37.273371,86.660156&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=49.247344,-123.095412&spn=0.007508,0.028195&om=1&iwloc=addr > > > > What's Ruby on Rails? > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails > > > ~Ifny > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 604-690-7372 > _______________________________________________ > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van From ben at computerdolt.com Wed Apr 18 12:52:49 2007 From: ben at computerdolt.com (Ben Holt) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:52:49 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] LinuxFest Northwest Message-ID: <46267711.4000609@computerdolt.com> Hi, I hope the following is of interest to the FreeGeek community. I received the attached from Bill Wright of the Bellingham LUG. They are putting together LinuxFest Northwest on April 28th and 29th and would like a hand getting the word out. It may also be a good opportunity for FreeGeek to spread the word. I would also like to take this opportunity to let the FreeGeekers know about an Ubuntu Feisty Fawn release party that is taking place at 6 Acres in Gastown tomorrow (the 19th) at ~5:30. It is being organised by Brian LeRoux of West Coast Logic. Cheers, - Ben We need help getting the word out and it's only 11 days away April 28th and 29th. Check out Presenters and Exhibitors links on: http://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/ FYI, We also are a co-sponsor of a huge party planned for Sat evening, with 12 Micro Breweries present. See: http://www.maxhigbee.org/aprilbrewsday.html Google and others will be giving away free tickets to the party from their tables. We have a printable JPEG available for download for 8.5X11in posters at: http://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/poster.html We need all the help we can get. Cheers, Bill Bill Wright bill at blug.org www.blug.org www.linuxfestnorthwest.org From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org Wed Apr 18 18:30:41 2007 From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (ifny) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:30:41 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] LinuxFest Northwest In-Reply-To: <46267711.4000609@computerdolt.com> References: <46267711.4000609@computerdolt.com> Message-ID: <4626C641.70108@freegeekvancouver.org> Cool, thanks Ben! I've got a meeting at 6:30 tomorrow, but I will try to pop in early to say hello to the ol' Fawn. I'll try to spread the word about LinuxFest NW. Looks like I'll just miss it -- David & I are heading to Seattle on the 30th :( ~ifny Ben Holt wrote: > Hi, > > I hope the following is of interest to the FreeGeek community. > > I received the attached from Bill Wright of the Bellingham LUG. They > are putting together LinuxFest Northwest on April 28th and 29th and > would like a hand getting the word out. It may also be a good > opportunity for FreeGeek to spread the word. > > I would also like to take this opportunity to let the FreeGeekers know > about an Ubuntu Feisty Fawn release party that is taking place at 6 > Acres in Gastown tomorrow (the 19th) at ~5:30. It is being organised > by Brian LeRoux of West Coast Logic. > > Cheers, > > - Ben > > We need help getting the word out and it's only 11 days away > April 28th and 29th. > > Check out Presenters and Exhibitors links on: > http://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/ > > FYI, We also are a co-sponsor of a huge party planned for Sat evening, > with 12 Micro Breweries present. > > See: http://www.maxhigbee.org/aprilbrewsday.html > > Google and others will be giving away free tickets to the party > from their tables. > > We have a printable JPEG available for download > for 8.5X11in posters at: > http://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/poster.html > > We need all the help we can get. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > Bill Wright > bill at blug.org > www.blug.org > www.linuxfestnorthwest.org > _______________________________________________ > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van From ifny at freegeekvancouver.org Thu Apr 19 08:55:19 2007 From: ifny at freegeekvancouver.org (ifny) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:55:19 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Hey, who wants to be a Geek on Earth Day? Volunteers needed this Sat! Message-ID: <462790E7.8000203@freegeekvancouver.org> So Free Geek has been invited to the 2 biggest Earth Day thingamadings in Vancouver! We need help cloning ourselves =O We're going to have booths at both Jericho Beach & Everett Park. Basically we need help setting up and talking to visitors. Everybody's welcome to volunteer, don't worry about being new; we're all learning as we go along. It would be nice to have help Friday (tomorrow) with last minute errands too. Also: -- We're looking for a couple folks with vehicles to help us get our display to the locations. -- We're getting one gazebo canopy tent but we're looking for a second, if anyone has one. It's this style: http://www.airbornevisuals.com/displays/outdoor/img/presto6x6.jpg On Earth Day itself, folks are welcome to drop by the FG booth to say howdy, or to see if volunteers need a port-a-potty break :) If you're free & you'd like to help, please reply off-list. You could also call 604-690-7372. Jericho Beach http://www.evergreen.ca/en/involved/ed_2007.html Everett Park http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/parks/info/features/2007/070410_parkcelebrations.htm ~Ifny http://freegeekvancouver.org 604-690-7372 From humble at resist.ca Thu Apr 19 11:19:20 2007 From: humble at resist.ca (agent humble) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:19:20 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Hey, who wants to be a Geek on Earth Day? Volunteers needed this Sat! In-Reply-To: <462790E7.8000203@freegeekvancouver.org> References: <462790E7.8000203@freegeekvancouver.org> Message-ID: <200704191119.20554.humble@resist.ca> I'll be out at Jericho all day, Sat. Pencil me in for a shift. ~s On April 19, 2007 8:55:19 am ifny wrote: > So Free Geek has been invited to the 2 biggest Earth Day thingamadings > in Vancouver! We need help cloning ourselves =O > > We're going to have booths at both Jericho Beach & Everett Park. > Basically we need help setting up and talking to visitors. Everybody's > welcome to volunteer, don't worry about being new; we're all learning as > we go along. It would be nice to have help Friday (tomorrow) with last > minute errands too. > > Also: > -- We're looking for a couple folks with vehicles to help us get our > display to the locations. > -- We're getting one gazebo canopy tent but we're looking for a second, > if anyone has one. It's this style: > http://www.airbornevisuals.com/displays/outdoor/img/presto6x6.jpg > > > On Earth Day itself, folks are welcome to drop by the FG booth to say > howdy, or to see if volunteers need a port-a-potty break :) > > If you're free & you'd like to help, please reply off-list. You could > also call 604-690-7372. > > Jericho Beach http://www.evergreen.ca/en/involved/ed_2007.html > > Everett Park > http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/parks/info/features/2007/070410_parkcelebra >tions.htm > > ~Ifny > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 604-690-7372 > > > _______________________________________________ > http://freegeekvancouver.org > 'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' > https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van From iamlachance at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 01:33:11 2007 From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:33:11 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] A Visitor Message-ID: <462B1DC7.2050003@gmail.com> I wanted to say that I saw the first mosquito of the year just now. I've put her back outside for safekeeping. It's official, happy Summer! ~Ifny From simon at headware.co.uk Mon Apr 16 15:32:03 2007 From: simon at headware.co.uk (Simon Pavitt | Headware) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:32:03 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Free Geek video Message-ID: <4623F963.8070707@headware.co.uk> Hi all In case you're not aware, just wanted to draw attention to the fact that Free Geek come third in the video poll at the recent Non Profit Technology conference, "Reinventing Politics: Creating Social Change From the Ground Up", **which took place in Washington DC recently. [dogooder.tv/Contest_result.aspx] I hate to say it, but the deserved winner was from Avaaz Foundation [www.avaaz.org]. For more info about the conference go to: [nten.org/ntc] Thanks Simon ======================================== simon pavitt www.headware.co.uk it's not hardware, it's not software, it's headware ======================================== From paul.teehan at gmail.com Sat Apr 21 20:42:49 2007 From: paul.teehan at gmail.com (Paul Teehan) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:42:49 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] IEEE Article discusses e-waste Message-ID: Hello FreeGeeks, I recently came across the attached article in a technical publication I subscribe to. It is a 'point of view' piece which discusses the ethical responsibilities of the engineers who design computers and electronics. It also mentions that a short video about computer recycling is available at www.ieee.org/ieeetv. The video mentions a San Francisco group called 'green citizen' which also operates in Palo Alto - the heart of Silicon Valley. http://www.greencitizen.com/ - they seem to be right up our alley. An interesting quote from the article: "A study commissioned by Hewlett Packard found that 95% of American consumers are unfamiliar with the term "e-waste" and that 58% do not know if there is a recycling program for used technology products where they live." This article was published at the very front of the January 2007 issue of the Proceedings of the IEEE, which is the world's most highly-cited general interest technology journal. The IEEE is the Institute for Electronics and Electrical Engineers. It is the foremost professional association for technology professionals, with over 370,000 members worldwide, and is responsible for hundreds of technical conferences and journals annually. I was excited to see this article -- it happened quite randomly, I only saw it because I subscribe to the print version of the magazine in which it appeared -- because this means that many many influential people in the high tech sector also saw it. There may be copyright issues republishing this in print media but I think I am probably permitted to share it with you. Any university student has access to it through their library. And it the sort of thing that should be shared anyway. Best, Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IEEE.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 99048 bytes Desc: not available URL: From iamlachance at gmail.com Mon Apr 23 00:41:21 2007 From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 00:41:21 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Windowsless Wed/Linux Clinic April 25 7pm Message-ID: <462C6321.3050103@gmail.com> Hello all, Just a reminder that our very own Joe Bowser will be doing the next Windowsless Wednesday - Introduction to Hardware! You might wanna check out the Free Geek website for details on other upcoming events: WED May 2 - Geeky Movie Night: "The Winking Circle" - Spartacus Books - 7:00pm SAT May 5 - Monthly Meeting - come down & hear the latest, get involved, put your 2 cents in! 1:00-3:00pm, Location TBA SUN May 6 - Spring Hardware Drop-Off - Napa parking lot, 138 W. 3rd Ave. 12-5pm. Let us know if you want to help out that day. 10101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 /*This month: Introduction to Computer Hardware - Demystifying the Box*/ Spartacus books, 7pm-9:30pm 2nd floor, 319 West Hastings All are welcome! Beginners ok! Fully accessible, bike parking upstairs. Free or by donation. *Topics covered:* How to work with Electronics ~ Basic computer Anatomy ~ POST (Power On Self Test) ~ How to access computers ~ If buying, questions you should ask ~ If receiving, things you should look for ~ The hardware workshop will run about an hour. Afterward, there will be a Linux Clinic where we assist folks who have Linux issues. If you want to see what Linux is all about, you're welcome to stay! If you are already running a distribution of Linux, you might consider bringing your box down, so we can work together to solve your difficulties. Please drop us a line if you can, outlining your issues. Folks who attended the presentation are welcome to stick around to explore hardware topics further, or to ask other questions. / / /Free and open source software can offer community-oriented, nutritious and delicious alternatives.// Join us for Windowsless Wednesdays & learn how to set your computer free! / 10101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 From iamlachance at gmail.com Mon Apr 23 01:46:46 2007 From: iamlachance at gmail.com (ifny) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:46:46 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Thanks for the Earth Day boost! Message-ID: <462C7276.5010407@gmail.com> A great big thanks to everyone who helped Free Geek celebrate our first Earth Day in Vancouver! Gerald, Paul & I hoisted the Geek banner at Everett Park, a 40 acre park in Champlain Heights. It's actually a converted landfill, & the community has really made the park a fantastic place with trails, off-leash areas, & woodsy walking. David put up a booth at the Jericho Beach celebration, and was joined by Mack, Scott, and Simon. Reverend Phil from Free Geek Portland even came over to lend a hand! He & David charmed the Global TV folks. A special thanks to Simon for donating our new inflatable penguin device! Tux got a lot of hugs/maulings from the kids. Photos will go up on the website soon. ~Ifny From iamturnip at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 22:38:24 2007 From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:38:24 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] General Mailing List Migration Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0704252238g1154ca7ayedd5b4eb28fa08ec@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, This general mailing list will be migrating to another general list on a different server as of May 6th, 2007. We will be automatically subscribing people to the new list from our current list. If you DO NOT want to be automatically subscribed to the new general mailing list, please email me (iamturnip [at] gmail [dot] com) by May 1, 2007. Thanks! -- David -- David 604-690-7372 From bowserj at uselessdegree.net Fri Apr 27 07:47:45 2007 From: bowserj at uselessdegree.net (Joe Bowser) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:47:45 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] The CoV and Network 2 Go Message-ID: <1177685265.5660.3.camel@bowserj-desktop> Hey, for those interested, check this link out: http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20070417/ag20070417.htm In short, the City of Vancouver is spending $7 Million Dollars to replace old computers with computers that can run Windows Vista with computers going to something called Computers2Go running out of RayCam. Can anyone shed more light on who Computers2Go are, and how they got this very lucrative deal with the CoV? -- Joe Bowser From iamturnip at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 11:05:49 2007 From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:05:49 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] The CoV and Network 2 Go In-Reply-To: <1177685265.5660.3.camel@bowserj-desktop> References: <1177685265.5660.3.camel@bowserj-desktop> Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0704271105w3df439cdr7f291cd75f40967@mail.gmail.com> Joe, Thanks for the information. I have inquired about possibilities for Free Geek with our City contacts. Computers2Go is part of Network Two. The City supported them in establishing their program. On 4/27/07, Joe Bowser wrote: > Hey, for those interested, check this link out: > > http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20070417/ag20070417.htm > > In short, the City of Vancouver is spending $7 Million Dollars to > replace old computers with computers that can run Windows Vista with > computers going to something called Computers2Go running out of RayCam. > > Can anyone shed more light on who Computers2Go are, and how they got > this very lucrative deal with the CoV? > -- David 604-690-7372 From simon at sheff2van.ca Fri Apr 27 11:27:09 2007 From: simon at sheff2van.ca (Simon Pavitt) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:27:09 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] The CoV and Network 2 Go In-Reply-To: <1177685265.5660.3.camel@bowserj-desktop> References: <1177685265.5660.3.camel@bowserj-desktop> Message-ID: <4632407D.6020906@sheff2van.ca> Hi Joe > In short, the City of Vancouver is spending $7 Million Dollars to > replace old computers with computers that can run Windows Vista with > computers going to something called Computers2Go running out of RayCam. > As you'll have seen, it also states: "Computers2Go require recipients of computers to agree to return them to Computers2Go for disposal at the end of their life so they can be disposed of following e-waste guidelines. The City collects any e-waste from Computers2Go and sends it to Teck Cominco for recycling." The Teck Cominco website [www.teckcominco.com] says: "Teck Cominco is a diversified mining company, headquartered in Vancouver, Canada. Shares are listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbols TCK.A and TCK.B and on the NYSE under the symbol TCK. The company is a world leader in the production of zinc and metallurgical coal and is also a significant producer of copper, gold, indium, germanium and other metals." It'd be interesting to see what the e-waste guidelines are that it refers to. > Can anyone shed more light on who Computers2Go are, and how they got > this very lucrative deal with the CoV? There's info about the organisation at [www.raycam.vcn.bc.ca/computers2go] Thanks Simon From eworthy at shaw.ca Fri Apr 27 16:09:08 2007 From: eworthy at shaw.ca (Eric Worthy) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:09:08 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Intro Message-ID: Hello Freegeeks By way of introduction, my name's Rick Worthy, I'm a closet Linux dog that's had an avocation in computers and computing for many years. I built my first machine from a kit in 1979 (H89-Heathkit). At the suggestion of my son Graeme, I came to Windowless Wednesday last week and met a few of you and enjoyed the spirited conversation. Like many of you, I'm no Microsoft fan. My favourite projects has been building Linux Terminal Servers from the K12LTSP project. This is a great way to use old equipment and yet provide high workstation performance that modern users expect. I've built several of these and they worked very well. I also experimented with multi-head machines but with much less success. Hope to meet a few more of you at future events. Rick From eworthy at shaw.ca Fri Apr 27 16:18:18 2007 From: eworthy at shaw.ca (Eric Worthy) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:18:18 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Bellingham Linuxfest Message-ID: I'm planning to go to the Bellingham Linuxfest this weekend, all day Saturday and Sunday. I plan to commute down each day. If anyone is interested in going one day or both and wants to hitch a ride with me, I have 3 spare seats in my car. Give me a call on my cell tonight and we can arrange a pick up point. The event begins at 9:30, I plan on hitting the highway at 8:00 to give both travel and border time. Remember good ID is needed to cross the border these days especially a bunch of radical geeks plotting to bring down one of Americas largest and most successful companies with subversive 'free' software. My cell is 604-760-9552. Rick From iamturnip at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 00:51:46 2007 From: iamturnip at gmail.com (David Repa) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:51:46 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] May 6th Computer Hardware Drive poster!! Message-ID: <8c0eafaa0704290051y5b5ae502w36c912af065969b5@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, Sunday May 6th is our first big hardware drop off day. Its going to take place at the NAPA parking lot(138 West 3rd) between 12 -5pm. Ifny made a poster in a PDF format available online[1] for anyone to print and put up at work, a favorite coffee shop or anywhere else you might think people will see it. The name of the file is spring_drop_offbc.pdf . Thanks! [1]http://puddle.ca/~joe/freegeek/ -- David 604-690-7372 From lorbunny at hotmail.com Mon Apr 30 14:29:25 2007 From: lorbunny at hotmail.com (Lorraine Smith) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:29:25 -0700 Subject: [FreeGeek] Thanks for the Earth Day boost! In-Reply-To: <462C7276.5010407@gmail.com> Message-ID: I can attest to the popularity of the Penguin - Charlotte (4 years old) gave it a good poke in the nose. David had a line up from people with questions - I'm sure his tongue was twisted about by the end of the day from all the talking! On holiday until May 6th - will renew fundraising work when I get back. Good work everyone! Cheers - Lorraine >From: ifny >Reply-To: FreeGeek Vancouver discussion >To: FreeGeek Vancouver discussion >Subject: [FreeGeek] Thanks for the Earth Day boost! >Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:46:46 -0700 > >A great big thanks to everyone who helped Free Geek celebrate our first >Earth Day in Vancouver! > >Gerald, Paul & I hoisted the Geek banner at Everett Park, a 40 acre park in >Champlain Heights. It's actually a converted landfill, & the community has >really made the park a fantastic place with trails, off-leash areas, & >woodsy walking. > >David put up a booth at the Jericho Beach celebration, and was joined by >Mack, Scott, and Simon. Reverend Phil from Free Geek Portland even came >over to lend a hand! He & David charmed the Global TV folks. > >A special thanks to Simon for donating our new inflatable penguin device! >Tux got a lot of hugs/maulings from the kids. > >Photos will go up on the website soon. > >~Ifny > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://freegeekvancouver.org >'Helping the needy get nerdy since the beginning of the 3rd millennium' >https://lists.resist.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freegeek-van _________________________________________________________________ Win a webcam! 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