[FreeGeek] Day 1 rough notes

Mon Nov 13 01:20:48 PST 2006

Wow they sound kinda tough, do you think they'll be happy to take our
monitors, printers, and scanners?  ;o)

I'm probably not going to explain this as well as David did for me, but
I understand a gaylord to be a unit of measure in the recycling biz. A
gaylord is a volume of some material or object which is shipped and then
sold/purchased by weight.

The gaylord itself is just a suitable container which allows items which
might not otherwise pack very well to be efficiently stored and counted.

Wikipedia has a disambiguation entry
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylord> with a possible match near the
bottom, but it doesn't lead to an article.

David can correct me if I'm off base.

sean  :o)

ifny wrote:
> okay, i figured it out all on my own!
>
> "the gaylords & their struggle"
>
> http://www.gaylords712.com/struggle.html
>
>
>
> On 11/12/06, ifny <iamlachance at gmail.com> wrote:
>> this is great david, the next best thing to being there!
>>
>> ubuntu, eh? let the games begin!
>>
>> i love the idea of the students making a list of goals too. one of the
>> things thats blows my mind about opening up to self-selecting people
>> is that they usually know what they want...depressing how much energy
>> in the world goes into convincing them otherwise...& agree so much
>> about their box being just as useful as windoze. weʻre there to heal
>> the rift between ppl & tech, not increase it!
>>
>> maybe the steel crusher could be some kind of vice design?
>>
>> one thing though: can somebody tell me what the heck a gaylord is? i
>> tried dictionary.com, wikipedia, the urban dictionary & google. ended
>> up with a reference to ben stiller, the gaylord texas resort & a bit
>> of a homophobic plat de jour. oh, and itʻs a manʻs name...
>>
>> iʻm assuming itʻs a kind of bin?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> !fny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/12/06, sean <freegeek at seanhill.ca> wrote:
>> > Jump right in there David!
>> >
>> > Something to note about the receiving area is that with the computers
>> > themselves, both the outer shell of the case and the front are
>> numbered.
>> > This is important as these pieces are later separated and can be
>> > difficult to match up later on.
>> >
>> > "have students make list of goals"
>> >
>> > I really like this idea for the teaching portion. It's easy to imagine
>> > that we know what a person needs to do, but it just isn't necessarily
>> > the case. Leaving the goals up to the student will allow us to
>> > facilitate what they already know they want. Perhaps we could then
>> > present a grand list of what we consider important skills and our
>> > reasoning and let students pick their way through what they feel up
>> to.
>> > It'd be kind of like university, but even more self-directed and not
>> > hierarchical.
>> >
>> > sean  :o)
>> >
>> >
>> > David Repa wrote:
>> > > Greetings,
>> > >
>> > > Below are some notes I jotted down while getting dirty at the
>> > > mothership...
>> > >
>> > > **************
>> > > Receiving Area
>> > >
>> > > area includes keyboard, mice, and speaker testing room
>> > >
>> > > goods are sorted into bins, and larger objects taken back after
>> being
>> > > numbered
>> > >
>> > > examples of bins are pwr cables, coloured cables, cd's floppies,
>> stuff
>> > > for the store, laptops, metal, pure plastic, toner, mouse pads,
>> ribbon
>> > > cables, stuff bound for adv. testing(routers, modems etc), loose
>> > > cards, to name a few.
>> > >
>> > > there is also a bin for CBM(copper bearing materials), things like
>> > > floppy drives, old speaker etc go into it.  Also there is a shopping
>> > > buggy for cables to be destroyed(fills up quick)
>> > >
>> > > monitors are only kept if a)they are from 1998 and up, and are a
>> min.
>> > > of 17 inches.  There are gaylords outside for instant disposal.  4
>> > > gaylords in total.  One for monitors, one for scanner, one for
>> > > printers, and one for keyboards.
>> > >
>> > > Mac items are all put into one area for later testing and sorting.
>> > >
>> > > area includes tools, and 3 hand carts receiving area also includes
>> > > bins for paper waste, garbage, cardboard
>> > >
>> > > Some improvements could be made like - adding a tool wall(tools were
>> > > always being misplaced or on floor), perhaps having a covered
>> outside
>> > > receiving area(rain), better signage example - keep all epson
>> scanners
>> > > or keep IEEE 1284 marked
>> > > cables
>> > >
>> > > area could be closer to processing area, keep down travel time
>> > >
>> > > need different databasing program.  Something that prints
>> > > numbers as they are needed not vice versa.  a system similar
>> > > to that found in scrap yards.  the need for this is to track
>> > > what comes in and out.  also it enables to guarantee working
>> > > parts in store(as long as they have a number).  Very similar
>> > > to scrap cars.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *********************
>> > > General Thoughts/Observations
>> > >
>> > > NO stairs!  Must be handicap accessible.  On Saturday there was
>> > > three wheel chaired folks working there.  They has access to
>> > > all areas.
>> > >
>> > > Keep procedures simple and clear so new volunteers can start
>> > > working right away with out much training.  Signage  with
>> > > clear pictures etc.
>> > >
>> > > *************
>> > > Dismantling Area
>> > >
>> > > Tools!  Lots of them.  Sturdy work benches(wood).  Gaylords for
>> > > cords, pure plastic, motor items(not including HD), power
>> > > supplies(cords cut), coloured wire, steel
>> > >
>> > > Improvements - better tool selection(hammers, pry bars, eye
>> > > protection)
>> > >
>> > > it was mentioned that if the steel was compacted they would
>> > > get more money.  Perhaps design simple crusher?
>> > >
>> > > Look into assembly line style procedure??
>> > >
>> > > Current system seemed not efficient.
>> > >
>> > > Visible first aid station
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *****************
>> > > Education!
>> > >
>> > > Don't let the geeks teach!  Can "over talk" and lose peoples
>> > > interest.  Have separate class for more advance people that
>> > > want to geek out.
>> > >
>> > > Must be ready to teach people who possible have very little
>> > > education or can't read.  Was given example of 70 yr old woman
>> > > who did even know what a space bar was.  Time to empower
>> > > people not talk down to them.
>> > >
>> > > Simple class out line -
>> > >
>> > > cover inside hardware(mobo, pwr supply etc)
>> > > cover outside hardware(what diff. cables look like, where they
>> > > plug in etc)
>> > > first boot, login name, power up and down a couple of times
>> > > have students make list of goals(I want to... with my
>> > > computer)
>> > > take them over to the store, do some shopping(printer, DVD
>> > > player etc)
>> > > setup new hardware, run apt-get type program achieve goals
>> > > run automatix to make realplayer, java etc work, box must be as
>> > > usable as a winbloz box
>> > > before they leave make sure their ISP works if they have dial
>> > > up
>> > >
>> > > Ubuntu seems to be the distro of choice, many positive things
>> > > about it, very user friendly, stable.
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