From darren.abramson at shaw.ca  Sun Sep  1 01:06:01 2002
From: darren.abramson at shaw.ca (darren.abramson at shaw.ca)
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 01:06:01 -0700
Subject: [Busriders-van] Ideas for Puil anti-election posters
Message-ID: <ba74c2a.4c2aba7@shaw.ca>

Don't forget about the "vehicle levy" that 90 percent of the Lower Mainland hates about as much as Mulroney's GST!!!  

Remember though that Puil wasn't the only one.  We need to communicate with the suburbs to ensure that T/L board reps who presided over the lockout are ALL defeated.  In Port Moody, Meghan Lahti was on the board at the time, as a Tri-City rep, and she didn't even bother to show up for the open-house meetings last fall during the "It's Time To Choose [between signing a blank cheque and bowing to the will of Translink]" campaign.  Even in Vancouver (who have three reps on the board), there is also Jennifer something or another, as well as Helen something in New West, a couple from Burnaby, and then McCallum et al (I actually don't find McCallum so bad, myself, but he was on the board during last summer's 'let's sit on our hands until we break the union' campaign).  I have the complete list at home (I'm remote right now) and will post it to the list soon, unless somebody beats me to it.  

We need to campaign widely against ALL of last summer's board members who are seeking reelection this fall, and do all we can to ensure they get fired!  Don't limit posters to East-side bus shelters and Skytrain stations.  Does the BRU have access to funds for newspaper ads in the community papers (the Courier -- Newsgroup papers, or the Westender -- Van-Net)?  I assume the Vancouver Sun/Province is out of our budget constraint.

We can poster near 98 B Line stops, Park and Rides, even notice boards in shopping malls and grocery stores, universities and colleges, etc.

I like the idea of Puil in the Tug-O-War with an old woman, but let's make it more dramatic:  give her a walker, cane or even a wheelchair, and torn rag-clothes to emphasize the matter.  How about a pregnant woman who is chasing a bus because she has to wait a full hour for the next one because of service cutbacks (Puil is the driver)?  How about a bartender or restaurant employee caught downtown because the Owl Service no longer exists, and a cab costs a night's wages?  Puil can be the cabbie with dollar signs for eye pupils?  Then there is the bus driver who lost his job (driving the owl buses) and is forced to sell his house....

The most important thing is to get the affluent car-loving West side (and West end) on side.  THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!!!


-D

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Shewchuk <JimShew at triata.com>
Date: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:17 pm
Subject: [Busriders-van] Ideas for Puil anti-election posters

> Hello everyone,
>    Just a few thoughts:
>        -- make a slight alteration to one of graphics in Graphics 
> link from
>            web page.
>                (have Puil and old woman in tug-of-war over a bus 
> pass...)        -- bring up the property tax increase for transit 
> (Gets the rich against
>            him too...)
>        -- And of course the obvious one:  Last year's bus 
> shutdown and
>           his 'buck passing' at the Translink meetings...
> 
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From mburrows at telus.net  Mon Sep  2 09:06:21 2002
From: mburrows at telus.net (Mae Burrows)
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 09:06:21 -0700
Subject: [Busriders-van] Voting record of all Translink board
In-Reply-To: <ba74c2a.4c2aba7@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020902085944.00b97d30@pop.telus.net>

I agree that we need to get a record of all the votes from the Translink 
Board from last year especially.

I am especially interested in the actual voting record of Doug Drummond, 
the mayor of Burnby, Don McLean the mayor of Pitt Meadows. There's many of 
them like the mayors of West Vancouver and Langley who saw themselves and 
their constiuents as somehow not implicated in the transit issue, but Helen 
Sparkes, the mayor of New West and Drummond and McLean (and Hogarth from 
Maple Ridge) should be held accountable for the positions they took last year.

I know Jim said he had a disk with all the minutes on it, but does anyway 
have just a tally of the voting records?

>Remember though that Puil wasn't the only one.  We need to communicate 
>with the suburbs.
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From darren.abramson at shaw.ca  Tue Sep  3 21:29:40 2002
From: darren.abramson at shaw.ca (Darren Abramson)
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:29:40 -0700
Subject: [Busriders-van] RE: Voting record of all Translink board
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020902085944.00b97d30@pop.telus.net>
Message-ID: <JFELLHPDPKBPCCEJAAJMKEDFCEAA.darren.abramson@shaw.ca>

Exactly Mae; that is why I am advocating that ALL members of the TransLink
Board (during last spring/summer's lock-out/strike) be "FIRED" from their
(ir)respective city councils, and by extension, the GVRD and TransDINK!

The following were members of the board during AT LEAST part of last
summer's events:

George Puil (Vancouver), Chair during the lock-out/strike
Gordon Price (Vancouver)
Jennifer Clarke (Vancouver)
Kiichi Kumagai (Richmond)
Meghan Lahti (Port Moody), NOTE:  During the Tri-City "It's Time To Choose"
'community input' meeting, Lahti did NOT show up!
      Only Puil and Pat Jacobsen, CEO, attended.  As a resident of the
Tri-City area myself, I considered this a slap in the face as it
      convinced me that Lahti was not interested in what her constituents
had to say!!!
Doug McCallum (Surrey), Chair at present
Helen Sparkes (New West)
Pat Jacobsen, (CEO -- Not elected)
Doug Drummond (Burnaby)
MacLean (Pitt Meadows) -- I do not know the first name
Wood (West Vancouver) -- Do not know the first name
Grinnel (Langley)
Hunt (Surrey)

LET'S WORK TO ENSURE THAT NONE OF THESE POLITICIANS (except Jacobsen, who is
not an elected politician) ARE RE-ELECTED TO THEIR (IR)RESPECTIVE CITY
COUNCILS, THE GVRD, AND TRANSLINK!!!!!  It's time to show them what happens
to unaccountable politicians.

-Darren

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mae Burrows [mailto:mburrows at telus.net]
  Sent: September 2, 2002 9:06 AM
  To: darren.abramson at shaw.ca; busriders-van at resist.ca
  Subject: Voting record of all Translink board


  I agree that we need to get a record of all the votes from the Translink
Board from last year especially.

  I am especially interested in the actual voting record of Doug Drummond,
the mayor of Burnby, Don McLean the mayor of Pitt Meadows. There's many of
them like the mayors of West Vancouver and Langley who saw themselves and
their constiuents as somehow not implicated in the transit issue, but Helen
Sparkes, the mayor of New West and Drummond and McLean (and Hogarth from
Maple Ridge) should be held accountable for the positions they took last
year.

  I know Jim said he had a disk with all the minutes on it, but does anyway
have just a tally of the voting records?


    Remember though that Puil wasn't the only one.  We need to communicate
with the suburbs.
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From pwlegood at sfu.ca  Tue Sep  3 22:14:13 2002
From: pwlegood at sfu.ca (pwlegood at sfu.ca)
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 22:14:13 PDT
Subject: [Busriders-van] Adding insult to injury
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From dbantle at sfu.ca  Wed Sep  4 07:26:55 2002
From: dbantle at sfu.ca (David Bantle)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 07:26:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Busriders-van] Adding insult to injury
In-Reply-To: <200209040514.g845EFCa005609@rm-rstar.sfu.ca> from "pwlegood@sfu.ca" at Sep 03, 2002 10:14:13 PM
Message-ID: <200209041426.HAA21612@fraser.sfu.ca>

Just an observation.  Phil I find your analysis seems very well
researched but why is it only focussed on skytrain?

Translink is spending $600 million to build a six lane tunnel
underneath the Fraser and divert enormous volumes of Port Mann
and I5/Hwy99 traffic into downtown Maple Ridge.  There has 
been only one open house on a weekday between 1 & 4 pm when many
people are at work and no public hearings on this at all - at 
least not in Maple Ridge which appears to be the community
that is going to be most affected.

This Fraser Crossing Project will be connected on both sides
by the South and North Fraser Perimeter highways.  This is
part of a $4 BILLION project which obviously dwarfs the
skytrain project.  Just curious why your analysis always
overlook this?

In addition to this project, the local papers have pointed 
out that this crossing will dump tons of traffic onto the
Lougheed westbound which will swamp the Pitt River Bridge.
So they are now talking about either rebuilding the Pitt
River Bridge or building a completely new crossing over
the Pitt River to accomodate all this traffic.  This
project just keeps growing like an octopus.  It seems
to me the whole thing is so expensive it can't even be
taken seriously anymore.  

On Monday I decided to drive to Port Moody, park my vehicle
at the Pt Moody train station and catch the bus to Vancouver
to go to work.  The PNE traffic backed up along the Lougheed
from Shaugnessy to Coast Meridian.  It took me 30 minutes
to get from Maple Ridge to Port Moody by car.  That's
under todays conditions.  With a new six lane freeway
feeding traffic into Port Coquitlam it should be something
to see.

On top of all this, they want to build another crossing
over False Creek inlet from downtown Vancouver to the
North Shore.  

Just where is all this money supposed to come from and
what does this say about the Translink board's grasp on
reality or their graps of rational spending priorities?



> 
> Hi All
> 
> Hope everyone had a good summer!
> 
> After having a good look at Translink's new and approved 3 Year Financial
> Plan I'm finding some unpleasant facts.  I hope you can follow the
> following:
> 
> 1.  Translink over the next three years will pump some $130 million into the
> SkyTrain Millenium Line for operating costs and debt service costs (includes
> start up costs).  For this huge public investment they will only receive $16
> million of revenue from Millenium Line fares.  That leaves a $114 million
> deficit that must be recovered from other Translink transit revenues and/or
> more property taxes for residents of the GVRD.	This does not count the
> Provincial Government's obligation to pay off its share of the SkyTrain
> Millenium Line debt.  The province will put out some $216 million over the
> next three years alone for the SkyTrain Millenium Line. Translink and the
> Province's total cost to subsidize the SkyTrain Millenium Line over the next
> three years will be $330 million. ($110 million per year).  Of course this
> huge public expense will not end in 2004.  This amount of public cash will
> be required for another 20 - 30 years!	
> 
> (Incidently, the premier is boasting that the SkyTrain Expo Line would not
> have been built if it wasn't for Expo 86.  What the premier fails to tell
> the public is that this same Expo Line is costing the province more than
> $110 million per year even after 17 years of service.  None of this $110
> million is recovered from SkyTrain fares.  He also fails to tell us that he
> himself in a Globe and Mail article called SkyTrain a "huge capital drain". 
> The budget deficits for schools and health care services in the province is
> the product of expensive public transportation investments.  The province's
> and Translink's subsidies for the SkyTrain Millenium Line of $110 million
> per year as well as the more than $130 for the Expo Line would go a long way
> in providing adequate affordable housing, quality education and health care
> services in the region.)
> 
> 2.  Translink expects to receive somewhere around $170 - $190 million over
> the next 3 years from the new increase in transit fares, new property taxes
> and other transit revenue put forth in "Choice 2".  Over $100 million of
> this new revenue will come from the increased fares put into the bus fare
> boxes.	Around 80% of all new transit revenue!	However, only $30 odd
> million of this $100 million in new bus fare revenue over the next three
> years is being pumped back into the buses.  Where is the rest going?  If you
> guessed the Millenium Line, you're correct.  As predicted!
> 
> 3.  The original 10 year Financial Plan of Translink's indicated a fare
> increase in Year 2003. Is Translink looking at increasing fares for Year
> 2003?  
> 
> 4.  The 3 Year Plan of Translink's shows only a peak hour ridership on the
> SkyTrain Millenium Line of 1200!  Since most of the buses that run in the
> north eastern part of the region are being redirected to the Millenium Line
> or eliminated all together, one can safely say that almost all of the riders
> on the new line are former bus passengers who are now without any other
> transit option to get them to work or school.  When Chicago built the Orange
> Line it redirected it buses to the Orange Line stations. Over 2500 bus
> transit users (20% of the Orange Line's ridership) had to return to using
> their cars to get to work or school as the Orange Line no longer took them
> to their destinations.	This highlights the problems of fixed modes of
> transit.  The only way fixed or urban rail systems can function effectively
> is if their is numerous lines criss-crossing a region such as New York,
> Toronto and other high density cities.	We are not a high population density
> city or region.
> 
> 5. On the Olympic Games front:	A report prepared by a professor of urban
> and transportation planning at Portland State University shows that most
> airport to city centre rail lines carry only 2 - 4% of all passengers
> travelling through the airport.  Now why would anyone in their right minds
> (those who care for the public purse) invest $2 BILLION in an urban rail
> project (actually it will be in the range of $140 million dollars a year
> over 30 years) when it will carry so few passengers.  At worst the present
> fast bus service to the airport and to Richmond City Centre from downtown
> Vancouver costs around $6 million a year ($500,000 a month) in subsidies. 
> The SkyTrain to the Airport Line would require subsidies in the range of $11
> million a month or $132 million per year for the next 30 years!  So why are
> municipal politicians pushing this huge expense on to the residents of their
> communities?  Did they even take the time to enquire what their citizens
> priorities are for public spending? 
> 
> 6.  And on a totally unrelated subject:  A recent issue of the PIQUE from
> Whistler shows a few two bedroom, two bathroom townhouses on sale for
> $750,000. (These same townhouses in White Rock would sell for $250,000.  The
> townhouses for sale in Whistler are good examples of pre-Olympic bargains!
> 
> 7. When will BCer's stop electing former mayors of Vancouver?  Is Philip
> Owen going to be our next premier? 
> 
>  
> 
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From JimShew at triata.com  Wed Sep  4 19:20:25 2002
From: JimShew at triata.com (Jim Shewchuk)
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:20:25 -0700
Subject: [Busriders-van] Voting record of all Translink board
Message-ID: <20020905022040.4B35BAB241@rosa.resist.ca>

On Mon, 02 Sep 2002 09:06:21 -0700, Mae Burrows wrote:

>I agree that we need to get a record of all the votes from the TransLink
>Board from last year especially.

>[snip]

>I know Jim said he had a disk with all the minutes on it, but does anyway 
>have just a tally of the voting records?

>[snip]

    It looks like my archive might not be able to provide those voting
details after all, because it appears that Linda has stopped recording
the voting specifics and comments of the board into the minutes.  In
glancing through the minutes for July 19th, it just says 'CARRIED',
'Moved and Seconded', etc. without specifics as to who moved / seconded /
voted what.  So far, I have not backtracked to find out when Linda stopped
recording the voting specifics.

    To those with legal connections, is this lack of specifics permitted in
the *official* minutes of a corporate board?  (For a society, the 'who' of
a motion's specifics and the 'numbers' of the vote *are* required to be
recorded)  If not, what penalties under corporate law, and how hard would it
be for TransLink to squirm out of facing these penalties?  Hopefully, it
would be *extremely* hard for them to squirm free!  8-)

    Is there anything preventing us from using a camcorder to record these
board meetings ourselves, or are press rights given only to Puil's buddies?
Perhaps Shaw might be able to help us here if TransLink objects to 'us'
recording them.  Actually, Shaw would probably get better results than a
camcorder because their equipment has better mounting (ie no camera shake)
and they have the ability to tap directly into the council chambers' sound
system.  (Shaw currently records the GVRD and the Vancouver council meetings
for later broadcast on cable 4 -- maybe we can convince them to do likewise
with TransLink's meetings.)

    According to TransLink's web site, (as of Labour day) the September
board meeting is scheduled to be held on Friday Sept. 20 in Vancouver City Hall 
council chambers at 8:00 AM

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From pwlegood at sfu.ca  Fri Sep  6 12:33:30 2002
From: pwlegood at sfu.ca (pwlegood at sfu.ca)
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 12:33:30 PDT
Subject: [Busriders-van] Translink's 3 Year Financial Plan
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From russellian at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 10 18:08:51 2002
From: russellian at yahoo.com (Mark Dickson)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:08:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Busriders-van] Adding insult to injury
In-Reply-To: <200209040514.g845EFCa005609@rm-rstar.sfu.ca>
Message-ID: <20020911010851.23513.qmail@web10806.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Phil et al, 
 
 I'm going to attach my news contributions to Vancouver Co-operative Radio's Redeye show.  The first two items are irrelevant to this thread, but the third was contributed by Phil, with only minor changes.  
I tend to be upbeat about Redeye, mainly because it's the most widely listened to program on 102.7 FM.  Phil: thanks for spreading the analysis with the BRU.  It won't be wasted.

--- pwlegood at sfu.ca wrote:> Hi All> > Hope everyone had a good summer!> > After having a good look at Translink's new and approved> 3 Year Financial> Plan I'm finding some unpleasant facts.  I hope you can> follow the> following:> > 1.  Translink over the next three years will pump some> $130 million into the> SkyTrain Millenium Line for operating costs and debt> service costs (includes> start up costs).  For this huge public investment they> will only receive $16> million of revenue from Millenium Line fares.  That> leaves a $114 million> deficit that must be recovered from other Translink> transit revenues and/or> more property taxes for residents of the GVRD.	This does> not count the> Provincial Government's obligation to pay off its share> of the SkyTrain> Millenium Line debt.  The province will put out some $216> million over the> next three years alone for the SkyTrain Millenium Line.> Translink and the> Province's total cost to subsidize the SkyTrain Millenium> Line over the next> three years will be $330 million. ($110 million per> year).  Of course this> huge public expense will not end in 2004.  This amount of> public cash will> be required for another 20 - 30 years!	> > (Incidently, the premier is boasting that the SkyTrain> Expo Line would not> have been built if it wasn't for Expo 86.  What the> premier fails to tell> the public is that this same Expo Line is costing the> province more than> $110 million per year even after 17 years of service. > None of this $110> million is recovered from SkyTrain fares.  He also fails> to tell us that he> himself in a Globe and Mail article called SkyTrain a> "huge capital drain". > The budget deficits for schools and health care services> in the province is> the product of expensive public transportation> investments.  The province's> and Translink's subsidies for the SkyTrain Millenium Line> of $110 million> per year as well as the more than $130 for the Expo Line> would go a long way> in providing adequate affordable housing, quality> education and health care> services in the region.)> > 2.  Translink expects to receive somewhere around $170 -> $190 million over> the next 3 years from the new increase in transit fares,> new property taxes> and other transit revenue put forth in "Choice 2".  Over> $100 million of> this new revenue will come from the increased fares put> into the bus fare> boxes.	Around 80% of all new transit revenue!	However,> only $30 odd> million of this $100 million in new bus fare revenue over> the next three> years is being pumped back into the buses.  Where is the> rest going?  If you> guessed the Millenium Line, you're correct.  As> predicted!> > 3.  The original 10 year Financial Plan of Translink's> indicated a fare> increase in Year 2003. Is Translink looking at increasing> fares for Year> 2003?  > > 4.  The 3 Year Plan of Translink's shows only a peak hour> ridership on the> SkyTrain Millenium Line of 1200!  Since most of the buses> that run in the> north eastern part of the region are being redirected to> the Millenium Line> or eliminated all together, one can safely say that> almost all of the riders> on the new line are former bus passengers who are now> without any other> transit option to get them to work or school.  When> Chicago built the Orange> Line it redirected it buses to the Orange Line stations.> Over 2500 bus> transit users (20% of the Orange Line's ridership) had to> return to using> their cars to get to work or school as the Orange Line no> longer took them> to their destinations.	This highlights the problems of> fixed modes of> transit.  The only way fixed or urban rail systems can> function effectively> is if their is numerous lines criss-crossing a region> such as New York,> Toronto and other high density cities.	We are not a high> population density> city or region.> > 5. On the Olympic Games front:	A report prepared by a> professor of urban> and transportation planning at Portland State University> shows that most> airport to city centre rail lines carry only 2 - 4% of> all passengers> travelling through the airport.  Now why would anyone in> their right minds> (those who care for the public purse) invest $2 BILLION> in an urban rail> project (actually it will be in the range of $140 million> dollars a year> over 30 years) when it will carry so few passengers.  At> worst the present> fast bus service to the airport and to Richmond City> Centre from downtown> Vancouver costs around $6 million a year ($500,000 a> month) in subsidies. > The SkyTrain to the Airport Line would require subsidies> in the range of $11> million a month or $132 million per year for the next 30> years!  So why are> municipal politicians pushing this huge expense on to the> residents of their> communities?  Did they even take the time to enquire what> their citizens> priorities are for public spending? > > 6.  And on a totally unrelated subject:  A recent issue> of the PIQUE from> Whistler shows a few two bedroom, two bathroom townhouses> on sale for> $750,000. (These same townhouses in White Rock would sell> for $250,000.  The> townhouses for sale in Whistler are good examples of> pre-Olympic bargains!> > 7. When will BCer's stop electing former mayors of> Vancouver?  Is Philip> Owen going to be our next premier? > >  > > > _______________________________________________> Busriders-van mailing list> Busriders-van at resist.ca> http://resist.ca/mailman/listinfo/busriders-van

Bonne chance,

Mark Dickson, 

(604) 584-0978 
 
Volunteer for Vancouver Co-operative Radio, CFRO, 102.7 FM
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From pwlegood at sfu.ca  Tue Sep 17 14:44:13 2002
From: pwlegood at sfu.ca (pwlegood at sfu.ca)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:44:13 PDT
Subject: [Busriders-van] Jack Layton bike ride, this Thursday.  (fwd)
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From JimShew at triata.com  Tue Sep 17 22:34:21 2002
From: JimShew at triata.com (Jim Shewchuk)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:34:21 -0700
Subject: [Busriders-van] Vancouver Council rejects democratic selection of GVRD/TransLink boards
Message-ID: <20020918053509.63F10AB261@rosa.resist.ca>

    More ammo for campaign to prevent the re-election of at least the Vancouver
component of Translink / GVRD...

    At the September 17th Vancouver council meeting, Council voted 9 to 2 to
reject Lewis' motion to add a ballot to the November election allowing voters
to *recommend* to council whom the electorate wish to serve on to the GVRD
and the TransLink boards.  (Councilors Lewis and Bass were the only ones
in favor)




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From oyz4321 at vif.com  Thu Sep 19 19:46:17 2002
From: oyz4321 at vif.com (Canadian Subsidy Directory 2002)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:46:17 -0400
Subject: [Busriders-van] Available; Subsidies, Grants, Loans, Financing
Message-ID: <20020920024617.EDC5CAB21D@rosa.resist.ca>

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From darren.abramson at shaw.ca  Fri Sep 20 00:04:22 2002
From: darren.abramson at shaw.ca (Darren Abramson)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 00:04:22 -0700
Subject: [Busriders-van] Vancouver Council rejects democratic selection of
 GVRD/TransLink boards
In-Reply-To: <20020918053509.63F10AB261@rosa.resist.ca>
Message-ID: <JFELLHPDPKBPCCEJAAJMOEEKCEAA.darren.abramson@shaw.ca>

Jim,

Thank you for that tidbit of information.  It presents VERY STRONG TESTIMONY
towards the interests of Vancouver City councillors (specifically, NPA) in
regard to whether they truly represent those who vote for them (as they
theoretically do), and I would have to say the only people they represent
are themselves!  This is especially evident if the motion that was rejected
is only for recommendation, and is non-binding!

As far as I am concerned, for the GVRD and TransDINK to be truly
accountable, it behooves them to allow voters to either directly elect the
members of these bodies, or at the very least, recommend them in nonbinding
plebesites (where most recommendations should be carried out, if not all of
them).  That this motion was defeated along apparent party lines speaks
volumes to me about the problems with the GVRD and TransDINK.

-Darren

> -----Original Message-----
> From: busriders-van-admin at resist.ca
> [mailto:busriders-van-admin at resist.ca]On Behalf Of Jim Shewchuk
> Sent: September 17, 2002 10:34 PM
> To: Bus Riders Union Mailing list
> Subject: [Busriders-van] Vancouver Council rejects democratic selection
> of GVRD/TransLink boards
>
>
>     More ammo for campaign to prevent the re-election of at least
> the Vancouver
> component of Translink / GVRD...
>
>     At the September 17th Vancouver council meeting, Council
> voted 9 to 2 to
> reject Lewis' motion to add a ballot to the November election
> allowing voters
> to *recommend* to council whom the electorate wish to serve on to the GVRD
> and the TransLink boards.  (Councilors Lewis and Bass were the only ones
> in favor)
>
>
>
>
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From pwlegood at sfu.ca  Mon Sep 23 11:50:16 2002
From: pwlegood at sfu.ca (pwlegood at sfu.ca)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:50:16 PDT
Subject: [Busriders-van] no subject
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From pwlegood at sfu.ca  Mon Sep 23 11:32:55 2002
From: pwlegood at sfu.ca (pwlegood at sfu.ca)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:32:55 PDT
Subject: [Busriders-van] Report to the GVTA Board ~ Trolley Bus Procurement  (fwd)
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