[Blacklabcollective] Jan 26 show review

[Megan Speers]

Yea that sounds very convoluted and like you said, you aren't a judge or a
cop nor should you have to play one. We do NOT have an explicit
anti-violence policy, really, but our safer spaces policy pretty clearly
says that we talk before we kick people out and that it takes repeated,
malicious behaviour to get kicked out. We specifically chose not to have
language in the policy around kicking out abusers because of stuff like
this and also because obviously we cannot understand the intricacies of
every interpersonal relationship of everyone in the space.

But yea, it sounds like you handled it well, Quinn, and I'm sure it was
stressful. You did the right thing, though, by talking to both parties,
attempting to get a handle on the situation, asking them to leave etc. I
wouldn't have done anything differently. It's shitty that the person felt
like it wasn't handled well but you can't please everyone, to be frank. Did
they have any solutions as to how they would have preferred things to go
down? also feel free to forward them a link to the safer spaces policy if
they want clarity on our position
http://theblacklabvancouver.tumblr.com/saferspaces

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Oh okay I guess I misunderstood, I thought there was violence happening in
> the space, but I guess it was unsubstantiated?  But ya, in my eyes that's
> pretty unnaceptable.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Quinn Roseblade <
> quinn.roseblade at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lou says there was a witness but I did not even go there. As I said, I'm
>> not some sort of judge.
>>
>> To clarify, I did not ultimately believe Tracy should have been asked to
>> leave. I talked to her about it, and I realized I wasn't capable of being
>> in that position. Things are way too complicated. I just made sure they
>> kept their distance and let them know they were both welcome to leave if
>> they had an issue because I couldn't get in the middle and attempt to solve
>> their relationship issues.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Did anyone see anything? Was there no security or other staff or even
>> pals around to back you up when they were refusing to leave? That sounds
>> fucked and super stressful!!! Sorry you had to deal with that!!! Also kind
>> of bums me out that noone backed you up in that situation, sounds like
>> something that could have really escalated, especially with the person
>> refusing to leave!!!
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Quinn Roseblade <
>> quinn.roseblade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Totals from the show were:
>>> $190 Door
>>> $261.75 Bar
>>>
>>> It was a good show, bands ran smoothly and it ended at 11pm.
>>>
>>> However, there was an issue that has been brought to light in the Black
>>> Lab Facebook messages. Someone is claiming that I didn't handle a situation
>>> the way they wanted, and they are looking for someone to clarify Black Lab
>>> policy for them since they feel they were mistreated. I did my best, and
>>> feel like it was a hard situation to navigate.
>>>
>>> This person (Lou) says their ex walked by them and punched them, so they
>>> wanted that person (Tracy) to be asked to leave. I immediately talked to
>>> Tracy, who told me that Lou was her abusive ex and they were lying about
>>> any physical altercation. She said she wasn't going to leave, even if I
>>> thought she should, because she knew it wasn't fair. So I let Lou know
>>> there wasn't much else I could do, and mostly just tried to hear them out.
>>> Lou let me know they appreciated me talking to them, but they weren't
>>> satisfied with my response and think I should have made Tracy leave due to
>>> alleged physical violence.
>>>
>>> I am not the police or a judge or whoever in this world seems to think
>>> they're qualified in being in the middle of these situations. It was really
>>> stressful to keep the show going on time while also dealing with this. I
>>> hope we can make this clear for people to avoid situations like this in the
>>> future.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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